Loose Change vs. William Rodriguez

Man, this is too funny!

Nothing like the LCF ninnies to show us that they could barely run their noses, let alone a website.

Freedom and honesty is what they want, but not at their site eh?

When kooks fight each other its exponentially good, especially when they start making up new conspiracies.

How could you pick a side? Its a black comedy.
 
~enigma~ said:
During this entire fiasco I would like to now why the lie Willie told about not knowing Cuban was involved is being overlooked?
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Here's the exchange between IVXX and Rodriguez, which came after Avery directly accused Rodriguez of ruining the Cuban deal.

IVXX said:
OK now on to my opinion of this since I have been quiet since April.

Its a staggering coincidence that the NY post Page Six has run two separate articles on Willie Rodriguez....and then Page Six cites their "source" about an article for Mark Cuban. Not many knew about Sheen or Cuban and I know the people who knew. None of them spoke with the Post. So who else could this "source" be??

Wasn't Dylan, Jason and Korey out in Cali when you were schmoozing up Charlie Sheen and pitching him on movie ideas?? Didn't you pitch ideas at Daniel Sunjata as well?? Didn't Dylan have to tell you about Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen before you even agreed to do an interview for the Final Cut?? And then a week later this information winds up in the NY Post.

Rodriguez said:
I understand now your decision to have me out of LCFC.
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Willie we both know why you aren't in the Final Cut so why don't you tell the readers the real reason.
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Rodriguez said:
Coincidence? Nope. I am a 9/11 family activist and have been called many times before on issues dealing on 9/11. Rarely quoted with my name. So it has been with NYTimes, Daily News etc. Does that makes me the "source"? -again...call the Post if you are concerned, honestly I never heard of those writers before.

I did know about Charlie Sheen because they told me as they did many other people in the conference, in fact by the end of the conference, everyone was talking about it. Specially very impressed girls that were there. Cuban? I did not know who he was or that he was involved at all. The first time I heard his name was on the post article, never even followed sports before-except for boxing . Now I gather you are either Jason or Korey - because you have been quiet since april-so I will address this directly. You were bragging about the money and budget to "certain" people. I was very happy for all of you and even facilitated many interviews. In my case, I told them ( you ) that if this was going to be a movie release and not an internet effort, the rules of the game changes and that I, my organization should be compensated, in exchange I will give you the rights to the testimony and also unique exclusive videos of my 20 years working on the Towers. Finally, access to many of the eyewitnesses that are waiting to testify that were never interviewed before. Not a bad deal, isn't? I helped broker your interview with April Gallup asking you to set up some kind of Scholarship or help fund for her as well. You agreed. I had the calls from Erick still saved talking about the need for the interview and agreement on basic terms. we also agreed that a porcentage of the proceeds should go to help first responders. Very loable.

So why would I kill a project like this???!!! Absolutely not.

I even gave him Dylan peak of interviews coming up.
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IVXX said:
Wasn't Dylan, Jason and Korey out in Cali when you were schmoozing up Charlie Sheen and pitching him on movie ideas??
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Rodriguez said:
Indeed we were all there and I remember to be the one taking the pictures of Dylan and Charlie. Schoomooozing? hmmm , I will let Charlie answer that.

I do remember Jimmy Walter talking about it and Charlie agreeing that it will be great, an honor and also that he needed to work on his accent to sound more like me. Counting Jimmy was the financier of the project. I will ask Mr. Walters and will get back to you on this from his experience.
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IVXX said:
Didn't you pitch ideas at Daniel Sunjata as well??
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Rodriguez said:
I will be meeting Sunjata in 3 days. I will let him respond to that.
I promise to post it here.
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IVXX said:
Willie we both know why you aren't in the Final Cut so why don't you tell the readers the real reason.
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Rodriguez said:
Hmm let me see again? was it financial? personal or anything else? you tell me..
here is the email:

From: "Jason B" <jasonisvoid@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Loose Change Final Cut information: from Dylan Korey and Jason
To: wroudy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Dear Mr. Rodriguez,

On behalf of Louder Than Words, Dylan, Korey and myself would like to thank you for the interview you provided us in Irvine California. However due to time constraints on the picture we will not be using your interview in "Loose Change: Final Cut". We wish you the best in your endevours, and hope that you continue to speak to people across the world about your experience.

Sincerely, Jason Bermas
.....and my response was this..,

From: "William Rodriguez" <wroudy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Loose Change Final Cut information: from Dylan Korey and Jason
To: "Jason B" <jasonisvoid@xxxxxxxx

Thank you! I wish you all the best as well. Keep up the fight!
William Rodriguez
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Again, stop blaming me for the problems, I have tried many times to help the group (you?) and also to further your message out there. I have defended constantly the LC group and now I get attacked by them? Not a good move since I want to continue opening doors for them worldwide as much as I can.

Hey, I love them and really wish them the best. Honestly, I believe they can offer so much and have done so much for us that I have to be grateful. When I met Dylan, was at Sofia's house couple of years back. I even had to defend him on conversations with her as well. SO here we are in a turning point. If this is the way it is, I will then wish you well and continue my journey alone. Please fell free to cancel my membership.
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Then (excerpt):
IVXX said:
What is a coincidence IMO is a week after you found out about Cuban and Sheen, it was leaked to the Post. However I'll concede I may have connected the dots wrong though...

...Please retract the statement about not knowing about Cuban until after the Post article.

Rodriguez said:
...Hmm let me see again? was it financial? personal or anything else? you tell me.
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I think we answered this.

Rodriguez said:
I understand now your decision to have me out of LCFC.
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Yes, now you do.
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I'm not much for these soap operas normally, but I did wonder what the source of the obvious tension between Avery and Rodriguez was.
 
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Gravy said:
Here's the exchange between IVXX and Rodriguez, which came after Avery directly accused Rodriguez of ruining the Cuban deal.
















Then (excerpt):

I'm not much for these soap operas normally, but I did wonder what the source of the obvious tension between Avery and Rodriguez was.
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Possibly that Willie is lying about not knowing about Cuban among other things.
 
~enigma~ said:
Possibly that Willie is lying about not knowing about Cuban among other things.
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Yes. I meant that I had noticed that tension before. If I were a betting man, though, I wouldn't know who to put my money on. LTW making false accusations? Never! Rodriguez being dishonest? Inconceivable!
 
It's Gary Schwartz vs Allison DuBois all over again: a fight over marks (and I don't mean Gravy or X). Unfortunately, the poor misled children whose lunch money Willie and the LC boys so jealously crave probably have no clue what this is really about.
 
Gravy said:
Here's the exchange between IVXX and Rodriguez, which came after Avery directly accused Rodriguez of ruining the Cuban deal.

Rodriguez said:
In my case, I told them ( you ) that if this was going to be a movie release and not an internet effort, the rules of the game changes and that I, my organization should be compensated, in exchange I will give you the rights to the testimony and also unique exclusive videos of my 20 years working on the Towers. Finally, access to many of the eyewitnesses that are waiting to testify that were never interviewed before. Not a bad deal, isn't?
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Holy [rule10]. Am I reading that right? Rodriguez is trying to sell access to other 9/11 eyewitnesses?

This man gets more disgusting as time goes on...
 
I, for one, am not at all surprised at the bickering between the Loose With the Truth gang and the self-proclaimed "I am 9/11" Rodriguez. I recall reading and posting several months ago about Rodriguez looking for his own movie deal (Rodriguez posted about it on one of his several "All Hail Me, Aren't I Incredible" websites) and usurping Dylan and Co. in the process, and how that would annoy the LTW boys who introduced him to Sheen and Cuban in the first place.

Rodriguez has always been about self promotion and nothing more, despite his attempts to claim otherwise, just like Dylan and Co. have always been about self promotion, despite their attempts to claim otherwise.
 
leftysergeant said:
Now I am going to make some people's heads hurt. Mine did after a member over at The Randi Rhodes Show board posted this link. Is this news to anyone besides me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rodriguez
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Do you mean the overall items - e.g. he knows Randi? Or the incredible amounts of BS that Wikipedia actually will put in articles. Just click on the link to the footnote under item #3. What a crock!

WP should just delete the entirety of the article after the first paragraph and start over. I've never seen so many disputed footnotes in my life.
 
Does anyone else think that Charlie Sheen putting on a Rodriguez accent could quite possibly one of the most painful things to watch... ever? He just doesn't fit the part in the slightest.
 
It does suggest that we can never be sure who or what Rodriguez is. To that extent, it is a useful entry.
 
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