Loose Change - Part IV

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Sir Knight said:
Iraq should have been taken care of when we were over there the first time, when we were at the door. I can't explain why we didn't take care of it then, a lot less people would have died.
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The UNSC mandate didn't extend to invading Iraq and forcing a regime change. IMHO this was the UN's fatal mistake.

-Andrew
 
Gravy said:
Yes you have. You said you received the first patent on software, and you said you were leaving this board for good.
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Can you get double jeopardy on a lie? Because I think he has said he was leaving numerous times...

-Andrew
 
Sir Knight said:
You should really check out the CIA find out what they are capable of.
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Since they are not capable of silencing the intrepid Sir Knight who possesses so much knowledge that is dangerous to them, I'm not at all impressed by their ablities.
 
Well in a way, a strange way, I feel officially initiated now. Apparently someone over at libertyforum.org was annoyed enough at my blogpost debunking Uncle Fetzers 15 points, that they decided to not only post it there, and try to tear it to shreads, but they then posted on my blog, demeaning my debating skills, while still presenting very little evidence.

If you wanna debate with these guys, they seem to be more knoweldgable than the LC bunch.

the guy who posted ot the blog was named "Baiken", and he quotes himself and Rajter alot.

take a look:

my article posted on libertyforum.org

Check out my original BRIEF Debunking of the 15 points
 
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Since they are not capable of silencing the intrepid Sir Knight who possesses so much knowledge that is dangerous to them, I'm not at all impressed by their ablities.
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Well if I was anyone else I would be dead several times, but then again I refer you to my previous posts where I have clearly stated, THEY MAKE MISTAKES and ARE NOT GOD.

I just don't go down easily not that they haven't tried. I have plenty of documentation on that. And for the RECORD, I have said/stated that I have evidence of attempts on my life, I NEVER said they the CIA was directly responsible for that, what I did say was the CIA help set me up.
Maybe if it was the CIA that tried to kill me maybe I might not be posting, but then again I am not absolutely sure WHO tried to kill me every time but I know that my life has had several attempts on it, and I do know who tried to kill me on one occsion. The problems here is that you guys ADD to what I have said, and mix it around and then accuse me of things I didn't say but what you have said or made up/misconstrued etc.

And I have never said I was impressed by them either, just they are capable of more than you give them credit for.
 
It is funny, as I read all those who posted at the libertforum site to debunk my debunking, the only one to make any headway was randfreedom, who mainly attacted by debating skills (not my strong point), but did little to attack my debunking. All and all, given what a neophyte I am at this, I didnt fair too badly over there...randfreedom is the same guy who posted at my blog, with the same post you can find on the libertyforum.org site.
 
Sir Knight said:
Maybe if it was the CIA that tried to kill me maybe I might not be posting, but then again I am not absolutely sure WHO tried to kill me every time but I know that my life has had several attempts on it, and I do know who tried to kill me on one occsion.
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Here's something you can answer without revealing any state secrets. How many attempts on your life have there been, and what did they consist of?

This is just out of curiosity. I'd prefer that you stuck to issues directly related to 9/11. Are you going to read my long post and the information in the links I provided?
 
gumboot said:
Can you get double jeopardy on a lie? Because I think he has said he was leaving numerous times...

-Andrew
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Opps, I did leave but didn't you read the post where I said I was asked to come back NICELY? And I can change my mind, but maybe you do not believe in either free thinking, free speech or right to change my mind? I did not lie, I did leave, and it was almost for good. But my decision was based on a bad reaction to BS from people like you, but it turned out there were others that compensated for the likes of you. Otherwise I wouldn't have come back.

Like they say, you have to kiss a lot of toads before you get a prince. Well you are NOT the Prince. LOL
 
Sir Knight said:
Well if I was anyone else I would be dead several times, but then again I refer you to my previous posts where I have clearly stated, THEY MAKE MISTAKES and ARE NOT GOD.

I just don't go down easily not that they haven't tried. I have plenty of documentation on that. And for the RECORD, I have said/stated that I have evidence of attempts on my life, I NEVER said they the CIA was directly responsible for that, what I did say was the CIA help set me up.
Maybe if it was the CIA that tried to kill me maybe I might not be posting, but then again I am not absolutely sure WHO tried to kill me every time but I know that my life has had several attempts on it, and I do know who tried to kill me on one occsion. The problems here is that you guys ADD to what I have said, and mix it around and then accuse me of things I didn't say but what you have said or made up/misconstrued etc.

And I have never said I was impressed by them either, just they are capable of more than you give them credit for.
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Sir Knight, why won't you decimate us and post the evidence? If "they" haven't killed you yet, I doubt they would if "they" ever saw your post.

"They" seem to be stupid assassins if they can get your doctor and your mechanic, but not you.

Scare quotes are fun. :)
 
Gravy said:
Here's something you can answer without revealing any state secrets. How many attempts on your life have there been, and what did they consist of?

This is just out of curiosity. I'd prefer that you stuck to issues directly related to 9/11. Are you going to read my long post and the information in the links I provided?
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Fair enough, ok, 1. poisoning 2. Car set to blow up (this one was quite interesting and it was setup to look like an accident and it had worked it wouldn't have left any evidence. Depending on your point of view, mine is that I was fortunate the plan didn't work 3. Different Car tampered with to disable the air bag and there was a micro switch set underneath the dash that had disabled the rear brake lights so it wouldn't show on the dash they were not working. The last was involving two attempts on me, one was to maybe kill me with a rear end collision with no airbag, and if that didn't do the job, I was going to be charged with causing the accident in an attempt to do insurance fraud. Neither of them worked due to I found the problem due to constant checking of the cars on a weekly basis and when it did happen someone was nice enough to inform me the tail lights were not working without plowing into the car. Upon checking things out everything appeared to be ok but not working, it took an electrical expert to find what they had done. To break into the wiring in a manner to not show something on the dash was not a simple job. the little micro switch was put there to pick the right timing.

Those three I can state clearly because I have full docmentation on. there were others that appeared to be just accidental things but if you put all details together they were not accidental things. So since I don't have clear convincing evidence in my possession of those attempts I will not really go into details about them, but another 3 times would be accurate anyway.

As for your lengthy post, I was considering it, just not got to it yet.

Are you asking nicely? Or do you care? Just wondering.
 
gumboot said:
I think it might be a bit of both. From the interviews I have read/seen with former/escaped Iraqi scientists who worked on the program, I think it's probably likely that Saddam genuinely thought he did have a viable WMD program still, and was using it to keep Iran down. The scientists, meanwhile, had experienced some thorough education in what disappointing Saddam led to, so they kept up the bluff.

Of course this is only a few testimonies of what was going on, and they are speculating on what Saddam knew.



To be honest I think the greatest damage done by the whole affair is the United Nations. I think in the 10 years of sanctions and games with weapons inspectors that totally failed in their primary duties, and a unilateral invasion by the USA was simply the final nail in the UN coffin. The current hilarity with assembling a UN force for Lebanon may very well be the grave to toss the coffin into.



-Andrew
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I could not agree more, The UN may do some good, but when it comes to stooping bad things from happening their track record seems pretty abysmal. Where were UN troops in Lebanon before the current crisis, and they did nothing, so now they are send more over to do less then nothing. The UN should have an effective military stance or just admit that they are just a place for hot air to escape.
 
Pardalis said:
Yeah, but that would make you the princess.
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No that would make me someone who knows what a figure of speech is and makes you someone who doesn't know what a figure of speech is.

And to save time and effort I will reply to the other guy, oh yes I can do many different things, please refer to my other posts, you claim now that all I do is insult people. I was just mearly stating a FIGURE OF SPEECH FACT.

But you can call me Betty........ LOL
 
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Sir Knight, I've started a new thread here for further discussion of your claims. Thanks for filling me on the murder attempts.
 
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