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Loose Change - Part IV

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60hzxtl said:
Once again "Do Over Dylan" doesn't know what he's looking at.
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I'm not a golfer, but "Mulligan Avery" strikes me a an apt title. (A Mulligan in golf is a second chance at a bad shot.)
 
Johnny Pixels said:
I've been a bit slow on this, but in this thread a long time ago I was talking to JohnDoeX about aeroplanes:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6884&view=findpost&p=5652277

He told me (in the post linked to) that taking off from Runway 22 at LGA (That's La Guardia to a thicky like me) takes you directly to the WTC if you don't climb or turn out of it.

I actually got around to checking his story, and found that a direct line drawn through runway 22 takes you...on a path around 3 miles away from the WTC.

No wonder he's not flying if he wanders 3 miles off course, 6 miles from the airport.
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That's the best analogy for the truth movement I've seen, JP. "3 miles off course, 6 miles from the airport."
 
T.A.M. said:
So apparently now JDX and crew are locking threads simply because they are tired of arguing with Debunkers

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9536&st=60

At least he is honest about his fascism
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He also locked down the Hani Hanjour thread, thats the one where the Aussie Flying Ninjas thouroughly and completely destroyed him.

I love how he tries to "circle the wagons" by making sure he gets the last word in before he locks the thread down.

JohnDo'h @ LC said:
There were 6 people??? holy cow... i thought it was only 1.

Not a chance...Weight and balance buddy.
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Weight and balance? I never knew gate agents computed that, the dispatch paperwork and manifest are two entirely different animals.
He also went on about how flights would be booked heavily on a Tuesday AM flight. I actually was ready to take some sceen caps of my travel planner(probably against company policy, so maybe its better that I didnt) that clearly shows that East-West transcon flights have low yields on Tuesday early AM runs..they usually depart with 80-150 seats open, even during summer!
Then he goes on about midday flights being typically more open than early morning flights, again wrong!
That guy is a piece of work, and Billzilla has him pegged. He's probably legally retarded. That or he is puposely misleading with his "expertise" in aviation. He also threatened to ban me and my warning automatically jumped from 0-100%
 
defaultdotxbe said:
hmm, title says markyx, thread says mark roberts, wonder if they realize they are 2 different people
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Sorry Mr. Roberts, but I have beaten you in terms of "Pissing off CTers"

This is so much fun. I'm like a high school girl in the backstage of a N'Sync and Backstreet Boys crossover concert.
 
MarkyX said:
Sorry Mr. Roberts, but I have beaten you in terms of "Pissing off CTers"
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Oh, yeah? Dylan Avery says my name isn't Mark Roberts. So how do you know I'm not you? Put that in your pipe and smoke it, you...you clown assassin!
 
Gravy said:
Oh, yeah? Dylan Avery says my name isn't Mark Roberts. So how do you know I'm not you? Put that in your pipe and smoke it, you clown assassin!
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Now, now, boys! Dylan hates you both equally!
 
Hey guys! I have a cousin named Mark, and I bet Dylan wouldn't like him very much! ...Guys?
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My name's Mark, too!

Well, it's Markabby, and the M, the first A, the R and the K are silent.
 
JohnDoeX reminds me of the kid at elementary school, who would always say,

"You can't play because its mine, and what I say goes."

Banning people because they are arguing against the LC theories on the LC "Skeptics" forum...come on!! his excuse, is that he is bored of reading the same things over and over...oh yes there is a democratic even handed reason to ban people.

JohnDoeX is a fraud, and idiot, and an *******!!
 
Damn, MarkyX For President?
You sure have the name recognition! Problem is, the tin foil hat brigade don't leave their basements. Maybe for, "LC FC the Last Insult", but I doubt much else. Over at ATS I posted the Denier flick, woo is it popular.Here is a brainiac response;

( Tin Hat)
----"This guy Markyx is a nutjob. He used Dylans first interview completely out of context to make people believe he was mocking the passengers when in fact he was actually mocking the government.

Dylan and Co. have talked to at least 10 of markyx's friends who all have watched loose change and want to know where their best friend went. (out of curiosity, not anger)

So the question is why is it you are here trying to do the same as this dishonest Markyx shill? "-----

Are your best friends aware you are missing? I'll post the thread later,it only gets better! You are my current Hero MI!!!

Last post before URL worthy. Kick Ass!
 
Abbyas said:
My name's Mark, too!

Well, it's Markabby, and the M, the first A, the R and the K are silent.
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mar kabby? so your a cabbie? you must be an arab, and therefore a terrorist!

Banning people because they are arguing against the LC theories on the LC "Skeptics" forum...come on!! his excuse, is that he is bored of reading the same things over and over...oh yes there is a democratic even handed reason to ban people.
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thats because LC's "skeptics" forums are more like re-education forums, designed to concentrate their BS propaganda towards anyone who might be leaning away from a CD, just look at the pinned topics there
 
brumsen said:
1) They have not studied / modeled the collapses themselves, but truncated the timeline at the onset of collapse, assuming that total collapse was then inevitable; hence the discussion in eg Gordon Ross's paper;
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Brumsen, this issue has come up on your forum a couple of times. NIST said they didn't include an analysis of post-collapse initiation events in their final report. I'm not aware that anyone at NIST said they didn't study the whole collapse. Perhaps they didn't. Are you aware of anyone at NIST making such a statement, or that anyone has even asked them?

Most of the discussion of the papers by Gordon Ross, Frank Greening, etc. seems to be by people who lack expertise in structural engineering (as do the authors: Ross has a degree in mechanical engineering, Greening in chemistry).

2) They say that they have not found any evidence corroborating alternative hypotheses such as planted explosives, without actually having researched those hypotheses (well, at least they haven't written up such research)
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There isn't a single shred of evidence to lead to the hypothesis that demolitions explosives were used. Nothing reported by the engineers, notihing reported by the ironworkers or firemen at Ground Zero, nothing reported by the detectives and forensics experts who sorted 1.6 billion pounds of debris for evidence. Nothing in the videos. Nothing. How much time should NIST have spent on this absurd idea?

An aside: I know you've resigned from ST911, but I remember seeing "Engineering Ethics" next to your name on their site. That sounds interesting. I imagine issues like "Should we build this road or dam and displace these people." Or am I way off? Can you tell us more about it?
 
MarkyX said:
Most. Arrogant. Email. Ever.



I love the part where he accuses me of making a crapload of money out of this because I slapped my webcomic banner on it (it's on the same server. Bandwidth ain't free).
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Let me assure you that guy doesn't represent anyone else at the University of Kentucky.
 
soetkin said:
As Gravy knows, I've only just started dipping my toes in this whole controversy.
I had a small question about the box cutters. Can anyone tell me where I can find the phonecall transcripts where the passengers and/or the flight attendants stated that the terrorists had killed/stabbed people. I've found the Betty Ong transcript, but I was wondering if it was mentioned on the other flights (united 93 specifically) also. Google is such a mess to wade through.
Thanks!
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Welcome, soetkin.
This post doesn't have transcripts, but it may send you in the right direction: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1744280&postcount=35
 
ive been posting at the LC forums today, in a debate with JDX in the GravyMarkyXRoberts thread, its like playing tennis with a wall over there
 
JDX, since May of 2006 has over 3000 posts over at LC. Man, for a pilot, he sure has a lot of time on his hands.
 
brumsen said:
I'm not sure about this one, but I'll just float it:
what about the Pentagon body parts. There's a radio interview playing with Avery saying the government has shown no evidence that there were bodies in the Pentagon. The videos show what I believe to be pictures used as exhibits in Moussaoui's trial. Question: is the radio interview a recording from before or after that trial? It's not clear, but important - if that evidence was not available at the time of the interview, Avery could hardly be accused of lying, but it is implied here that he did.
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Avery is probably referring to body parts of flight 77 victims (as if forensics photos are routinely released for public consumption). It seems likely that the photos from the Moussaoui trial show the bodies of Pentagon workers.

From the Moussaoui trial exhibits, here is a flash animation map of where each victim's remains was located in the Pentagon. Clicking on a location marker brings up a photo and bio of the victim. http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200318.html
 
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