Loose Change - Part III

[realitybites]

got a brief timeout for implying that Michael Shermer regards Killtown as an "annoying moonbat". But I was in the middle of writing a reply on another thread. Would someone kindly post this:



in reply to this?

Done.

 

[DavidJames]

got a brief timeout for implying that Michael Shermer regards Killtown as an "annoying moonbat".

and yet the annoying asinine moonbats can call those who don't drink the koolaid whatever the heck they want.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Done.

Thank you.

 

[Belz...]

Truthseekers don't have the burden of proof.

Of course not. Otherwise they may have to do some real work, for a change.

 

[DavidJames]

Actually, Loony, you sort of answered that yourself. Mo, like me, BELIEVES 100% that it was self inflicted. Mo, like me, also does not know in detail how they did it. If you see a bank robber crawl into the window of a bank and exit with a million in cash, you know he robbed the bank. But you don't know how he got the vault open, how he avoided tripping the alarm, etc.

great analogy except, of course, for the part about actually seeing the robber crawl into and exit a window.

A better analogy would be, it's like hearing a bank was robbed and blaming it on Uncle George because you don't like him.

 

[MarkyX]

and yet the annoying asinine moonbats can call those who don't drink the koolaid whatever the heck they want.

Oh yeah, I went there

 

[realitybites]

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Oh yeah, I went there

Uncanny!

 

[Pardalis]

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Oh yeah, I went there

You win a Godwin point Marky!

 

[MarkyX]

I wonder what the Loosers or Dylan Avery will say.

Pissing off these idiots is so much fun.

 

[Pardalis]

I wonder what the Loosers or Dylan Avery will say.

Pissing off these idiots is so much fun.

Probably a ban, for insulting their "leader"... Which ever one.

 

[MarkyX]

Probably a ban, for insulting their "leader"... Which ever one.

I'm already banned.

 

[chipmunk stew]

and yet the annoying asinine moonbats can call those who don't drink the koolaid whatever the heck they want.

Well, I shouldn't blame the snake when it bites... I just couldn't help myself.

 

[Hutch]

I'm already banned.

I'd post the link, but I rather get banned on my own accord rather than commit sucide--but I'm sure chuck or jenabell will link it..

 

[DavidJames]

Well, I shouldn't blame the snake when it bites... I just couldn't help myself.

of course you should, it's just the double standard that exists that annoys me. As I said earlier, my guess is it's the losers complaining to the mods that gets the action. I suspect either Killtown or one of the others losers cried to the mods.

 

[azazal]

Ok Hutch, found Huntsman's figures and I belive we ran these from the same sources - Huntsman's posting

If anyone see's a math error, please point it out.

Mass = ~ 89585 Kg, that's half the max load, going to be erroring on the side of caution

Speed = 475 Mph or 764 Kph (212 M/s), propably slower then the real impact speed, but again erroring on the side of caution. Also this helps up establish a lower limit.

Kinetic Energy = 1/2 Mass * Velocity squared

KE = .5*89585 * (212^2)
KE = 44792.5 * 44944
KE = 2013154120 Joules

Just for fun, from wikipedia.org we see that a kilo of TNT packs 4184000 joules of energy. Or our impact is equal to 1060 pounds of TNT. Granted this is just impact energy on the low end. Kick the speed up to a more belivible 885 Kph or 550 Mph and we have a KE of 2706991189 Joules or 1426 pounds of TNT. Anyway, I digress.

From Boeing's 767 site we get a wing span of 47.6m. Leading edge surface are seems a bit tricky to track down, from JANE'S we have a leading edge slats surface area of 28.3 squre meters. I'm going to up that to 35 meter, take into account the fusealauge, engines, rest of the wings that is not slats, so please take with a grain of salt. So taking our low-end figure of 2013154120 joules and divide by 35 M^2, we get 57518689.14 joules per square meter. Comes out to 13.75 Kg of TNT per M^2.


From rikzilla quoting Huntsman we find that to cut a steel column with TNT, the formula is P=3/8*A, where P is the TNT-equivalent, in pounds, and A is the cross-sectional area, in inches.

This is were my brain goes plop. If Huntsman is out there, hopefully he can dod the math for what is needed to shear an exterior column.

 

[Class]

of course you should, it's just the double standard that exists that annoys me. As I said earlier, my guess is it's the losers complaining to the mods that gets the action. I suspect either Killtown or one of the others loses cried to the mods.

Killtown made a comment on Shermer saying he had no credibility. I quoted him and said "Let's hear it for the horse's mouth!"

3 minutes later it was gone, but I reposted it, asking not to be deleted again. I also screenshotted it so they can't delete it and claim I made no post.

 

[DavidJames]

Killtown made a comment on Shermer saying he had no credibility. I quoted him and said "Let's hear it for the horse's mouth!"

3 minutes later it was gone, but I reposted it, asking not to be deleted again. I also screenshotted it so they can't delete it and claim I made no post.

I saw that

I think you referenced the wrong part of the horse

 

[Hutch]

Posted Azazal, with full credit to you. Much and many thanks. I will be interested if any of the no-planers/slick takes on the mathematical challenge you have presented for them.

 

[Pardalis]

Doesn't Avery look like Michael Schumacher?

 

[realitybites]

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Oh yeah, I went there

Is this one of Dylan's glamour shots? If so, he probably shouldn't have gone for that wanna-be-tough-guy-who-lives-in-a-secretly-oppressive-world-but-he's-on-to-their-game-and-it-weighs-heavily-on-his-heart-and-mind look.

Doesn't suit him.