Loose Change - Part III

[kookbreaker]

He probably got off light by following standard CT operating procedure: Make your claims vague, tentative, and displaying no intellectual courage.

As I recall from the book, when Jones was speaking in professional circles, he was very conservative about what his findings meant. No hype, no assumptions, even acknowledging that he could be wrong about the whole thing.

In informal circles he couldn't stop talking about desktop Cold Fusion generators.

What is frightening is that when Jones showed up on the CT scene he billed himself as 'one of the first to debunk Pons & Fleischmann'. Wow, talk about revisionism.

 

[Gravy]

Did you move from Connecticut that fast?????

Sorry, couldn't help myself!

He wanted to avoid guilt by abbreviation.

 

[chipmunk stew]

He wanted to avoid guilt by abbreviation.

 

[rikzilla]

The British 9/11 Truth Campaign appears very open to good debate, and they appear to have people who will engage in a much more sophisticated and mature manner than those we engaged with at the Loose Change forum. Please join me and Gravy in the discussion:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=12648#12648
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=12630#12630

I'm there man....just call me Mr. Ref.

-z

 

[MarkyX]

An interesting thread on the Professional Pilots board.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=233975

 

[DavidJames]

The British 9/11 Truth Campaign appears very open to good debate, and they appear to have people who will engage in a much more sophisticated and mature manner than those we engaged with at the Loose Change forum. Please join me and Gravy in the discussion:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=12648#12648
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=12630#12630

Just read through both threads, it's loose change all over again, only with different names. Same questions, same sarcasm, same lack of evidence.

 

[Mancman]

Just read through both threads, it's loose change all over again, only with different names. Same questions, same sarcasm, same lack of evidence.

Yep, I got the exact same impression.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Just read through both threads, it's loose change all over again, only with different names. Same questions, same sarcasm, same lack of evidence.

It's starting to feel that way. Down to the well-considered YAWN response. One guy called DeFecToR and a couple others give me some hope. And they don't seem inclined to knee-jerk suspensions. Although Ally is calling for a "Troll Hole" subforum. *sigh*... I'm going to give it some time.

 

[60hzxtl]

Just read through both threads, it's loose change all over again, only with different names. Same questions, same sarcasm, same lack of evidence.

Don't get sore at them, just like the ct'ers here, they're still waiting for the Check to arrive because, don't forget, Bill Gates is going to share his personal fortune with them!

 

[DavidJames]

It's starting to feel that way. Down to the well-considered YAWN response. One guy called DeFecToR and a couple others give me some hope. And they don't seem inclined to knee-jerk suspensions. Although Ally is calling for a "Troll Hole" subforum. *sigh*... I'm going to give it some time.

I hope I didn't come off, with my response, poorly. I am envious of yours, Gravy's and others willingness and ability to jump into whatever CT cesspool presents itself yet maintain your composure and ability to take the high road.

 

[Belz...]

5. I conducted simple experiments on the "pancaking"
theory, by dropping cement blocks from approximately
12 feet onto other cement blocks. (The floors in the
WTC buildings were about 12 feet apart.) We are
supposed to believe, from the pancaking theory, that a
concrete floor dropping 12 feet onto another concrete
floor will result in PULVERIZED concrete observed
during the Towers' collapses! Nonsense! My own
experiments, and I welcome you to try this yourself,
is that only chips/large chunks of cement flaked off
the blocks -- no mass pulverization to approx.
100-micron powder as observed.

Holy mother of...

Doesn't anyone in the CT crowd know anything about SCALE ?

 

[Belz...]

Christ! Doesn't the idiot know that when you crank up the contrast, you loose details in the bright end of the histogram?! The end result looks like a really badly damaged paperfoto.

Didn't someone post a link where this girl thought she saw signs of a reptilian invasion based on highly-photoshopped pictures ?

 

[Bronze Dog]

This girl?

 

[Belz...]

This girl?

I do believe that was her, though it doesn't link to the same web page. If it isn't her it's a reasonable facsimile.

 

[MarkyX]

I want to shoot myself now.

Someone on my YouTube video is claiming that he is an engineer and many other engineers disagree with the official theory, and that the fires couldn't have gone higher then 200 degrees celcius (I cook my pizza at 400 degrees!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGscWP5Osw

 

[jhunter1163]

200 C = 392 F, just below pizza-baking temp. Maybe you'd only use 375 if you wanted a softer crust. But your point is made.

 

[Abbyas]

Someone on my YouTube video is claiming that he is an engineer and many other engineers disagree with the official theory, and that the fires couldn't have gone higher then 200 degrees celcius (I cook my pizza at 400 degrees!)

Not that I'm one to defend woos, but I think we have a F/C issue here. You'd have one singed pizza at 400 C.

ETA: NEVERMIND

 

[jhunter1163]

Also, by that logic, paper shouldn't have ignited (remember Fahrenheit 451). I think we can all draw our own conclusions on this "engineer".

 

[The_Fire]

Singed?! The bloody thing would be on fire! If you can get a normal household oven which goes that high!

ETA: Nevermind. It was that fahrenheit thing the americans seems to favour again....*mumbles* Ruddy yanks and their weird systems....

 

[MarkyX]

Not that I'm one to defend woos, but I think we have a F/C issue here. You'd have one singed pizza at 400 C.

ETA: NEVERMIND

What the hell have I been doing for the past ten years cooking left over pizza? 450 to be precise, for 4 minutes.

EDIT: Damnit, now I just found it's not C. Stupid American Ovens not labeling their temperature. Now I know I leave the cooking to women (sorry Abby and The_Fire!)