Loose Change - Part III

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chipmunk stew said:
tee hee hee hee!
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8260

woo hoo hoo hoo!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2640053169768807392

BWAAHAAHAAHAAHAAA!!!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983&q=alex+jones+dark


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The Alex Jones video is a hoot! (pun intended) If I had the know-how, I'd make a parody of it. If I didn't know better, I'd think it was already a parody.
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BTW, the British journalist in the Alex Jones video is Jon Ronson ( http://www.jonronson.com/ ) who wrote Them: Adventures with Extremists. For anyone who hasn't read him, you're missing out. In Them, Ronson writes about his adventure to Bohemian Grove with Jones (among other exploits)--great reading!

I wonder if Ronson is aware of any of our efforts? I'm going to contact him.
http://www.jonronson.com/email.html
[email protected]
 
chipmunk stew said:
BTW, the British journalist in the Alex Jones video is Jon Ronson ( http://www.jonronson.com/ ) who wrote Them: Adventures with Extremists. For anyone who hasn't read him, you're missing out. In Them, Ronson writes about his adventure to Bohemian Grove with Jones (among other exploits)--great reading!

I wonder if Ronson is aware of any of our efforts? I'm going to contact him.
http://www.jonronson.com/email.html
[email protected]
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Jon Ronson makes amazing TV. I was also thinking he'd be the perfect person to document the 9/11 truth movement. I do hope he takes an interest.
 
Shrinker said:
Some spectacular logic from Killtown on his blog, following up from his ordnance blast photos. His comparison did actually make me wonder why the mushroom cloud seemed cut off from the ground, and looked less like a burning fuel fire.

I don't have to worry about it now though, because now he's proved the photo is a fake! Why? Because it looks like the photo is looking out towards where the engine crased, not the plane. And also, it looks a bit photoshopped.

So that's two ways to take the heat off the official story, yet somehow it proves a govt conspiracy!

http://killtown.blogspot.com/
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Keep in mind that that mushroom cloud is hundreds of feet in the air. Someone posted this crash video/mushroom cloud on his blog:
B-52 crash Fairchild Air Show 1994. No ordnance on board.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/B-52 Crash.mpg
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Here are some quotes from flight 93 eyewitnesses:
"There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud." http://www.cleveland.com/news/plain...tandard.xsl?/base/news/100028703529429109.xml
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Eric Peterson, 28, was working in his shop in the Somerset County village of Lambertsville yesterday morning when he heard a plane, looked up and saw one fly over unusually low.
The plane continued on beyond a nearby hill, then dropped out of sight behind a tree line. As it did so, Peterson said it seemed to be turning end-over-end.
Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky. http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
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Shrinker said:
Jon Ronson makes amazing TV. I was also thinking he'd be the perfect person to document the 9/11 truth movement. I do hope he takes an interest.
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Apparently he already has :):
It is very funny you should email me about this. I'm getting into a
right old battle with the 9/11 Truth Campaign people at the moment.
Have a look at this...

www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=11201#11201

Let me have a think about your very interesting idea...

Jon
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I asked him to review some of the brilliant output of our members, suggesting that he contact some of our heavy-hitters, and expressed hope that he'd lend his weight to our efforts.
 
Belz... said:
Do you have an actual figure for that temperature ?
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It is a function of beam length, area, and shape. As was pointed out, a heated steel (or any metal) beam gets longer. Under normal, Room temperature environment, it would take a force to do that. By resisting the elongation, that force is kept within the beam, as is the resulting stress. Yield in A36 steel is about 36000psi at 70 degrees F. At 1000 degrees C, it is about 10000psi. At that point, the beam bends and/or buckles.
If you want an example, I can give one later--can't take time right now, but will this evening.
 
rwguinn said:
It is a function of beam length, area, and shape. As was pointed out, a heated steel (or any metal) beam gets longer. Under normal, Room temperature environment, it would take a force to do that. By resisting the elongation, that force is kept within the beam, as is the resulting stress. Yield in A36 steel is about 36000psi at 70 degrees F. At 1000 degrees C, it is about 10000psi. At that point, the beam bends and/or buckles.
If you want an example, I can give one later--can't take time right now, but will this evening.
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Oh, it's quite okay. I just wanted an example like the one you provided above.

Thanks.
 
realitybites said:
Whatever you're doing Brainster, keep it up.

You're infuriating the woo.

(Oh... after the interview, there will be a man dressed in a black suit waiting outside by what appears to be a teleportation device. He has your check.)
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After reading LondonEye's response in that thread I'd like to suggest that Brainster change his title from "Thinker" to "Blatant Disinfo Guy".
 
Here is another example of Kevin Barrett....at first I didn't think it was real.


Subject: The Difference You Are Making

Dear Kevin,

Over the last 19 months, when you could have walked away, you dusted yourself off, got back on your feet, dug deeper, and you have fought even harder.

[it goes on like this and finishes:]

Thanks so much for all of your help, energy and commitment. I'm proud of what you do, and I hope I live up to your values and convictions in the way I fight by your side.

Sincerely,

John Kerry

Kevin Barrett Replies to John Kerry,

Subject: The Difference You Are NOT Making

Dear John,

You, my “war-hero” friend, are a feckless yellow-bellied WIMP. 19 months ago, when you could have walked away...you did! You let the Bush crime family and their 9/11 perp friends the neocons steal the election you won in a landslide 53%-47%. If you had the slightest shred of guts or integrity, you could have had us all out in the streets taking back the country. Instead, you tucked your tail between your legs and fled like the coward you are. Unless, of course, the two candidates from Skull and Bones had the whole thing fixed in advance. Either way, it appears that masturbating in a coffin in front of your sick Yalie frat buddies doesn't do much for your intestinal fortitude. As far as I'm concerned, you're history. But hey, prove me wrong. Get onboard with 9/11 truth NOW or condemn yourself to historical irrelevance.

Sincerely,

Kevin Barrett

http://www.mujca.com/masterplan.htm
 
Kent1 said:
Get onboard with 9/11 truth NOW or condemn yourself to historical irrelevance.
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Wow... nothing like an imperative command complete with a threat to motivate people to claim back those values like freedom and democracy that have been taken away...

:rolleyes:

-Andrew
 
Huntsman said:
Is it just me, or was the guy actually saying he would have preferred a civil war?
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He's certainly opposed to masturbating in coffins, which is a blow to my weekend of recreation...:eye-poppi

-Andrew

ETA. Chipmunk bet me to it... :)
 
Wierder and wierder

Masturbating in a coffin.

Pooping on the White House lawn.

The intelligence, civility, and maturity of these conspiracy theories are about equal to their grasp of the truth. 15-year-olds, at any age, are still 15-year-olds.

This is why I find myself agreeing with George Orwell...humans are incapable of meeting the demands of their history. We believe conspiracy theories instead of hard facts...we know all about Pamela Anderson's sex life, but don't understand how the Taliban came to be. It's ridiculous. :boggled:
 
Kent1 said:
Here is another example of Kevin Barrett....at first I didn't think it was real.


Subject: The Difference You Are Making

Dear Kevin,

Over the last 19 months, when you could have walked away, you dusted yourself off, got back on your feet, dug deeper, and you have fought even harder.

[it goes on like this and finishes:]

Thanks so much for all of your help, energy and commitment. I'm proud of what you do, and I hope I live up to your values and convictions in the way I fight by your side.

Sincerely,

John Kerry

Kevin Barrett Replies to John Kerry,

Subject: The Difference You Are NOT Making

Dear John,

You, my “war-hero” friend, are a feckless yellow-bellied WIMP. 19 months ago, when you could have walked away...you did! You let the Bush crime family and their 9/11 perp friends the neocons steal the election you won in a landslide 53%-47%. If you had the slightest shred of guts or integrity, you could have had us all out in the streets taking back the country. Instead, you tucked your tail between your legs and fled like the coward you are. Unless, of course, the two candidates from Skull and Bones had the whole thing fixed in advance. Either way, it appears that masturbating in a coffin in front of your sick Yalie frat buddies doesn't do much for your intestinal fortitude. As far as I'm concerned, you're history. But hey, prove me wrong. Get onboard with 9/11 truth NOW or condemn yourself to historical irrelevance.

Sincerely,

Kevin Barrett

http://www.mujca.com/masterplan.htm
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Combining this with the letter he sent Fox about BOR (seen on Avery's BLOG), this guy is starting to make Ward Churchill look like a Neocon.
 
9/11 Hijackers: Inside the Hamburg Cell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZGK_GR1nm0 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvpJUVI07Ik - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIP21rqvP-o - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz0S4Vwzb5c - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frU6X5FyS7g - Part 5

Another document sent to me. Apparently my new contact has a lot of history channel documents, so I can literally ask for almost anything. I think this document destroys the whole "no hijackers" theory.

Having clout is so much fun.
 
It's working:


From Miragememories
"If you ever wonder how the Screw Loose Change and similar sites get such a strong following, one reason becomes clearly apparent when doing a Google search.
Yesterday, I had to use a substitute computer and I forgot the url for the Loose Change Forums.
I figured it should be easy enough to locate by just doing a Google search under "Loose Change".
What I got was 64,200,00 hits. Lots of sites for acquiring the film but nada directing me to this forum site
I imagine many people who see the film become anxious to take action and want to locate others of similar feeling. Unfortunately searching with Google is going to place them in the path of JREF and Screw Loose Change people as well as other skeptic sites, long before they encounter Loose Change support forums."


See for yourself here:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8356&st=30


To bad facts get in the way of the Troooooth.

Or my favorite line out there - "Dylan is that you?"
 
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