Loose Change - Part II

[Orb]

OK, I finally got around to seeing the LC3 preview dealie. Well, OK, I didn't see the whole thing, but I caught the front end of each scene to see what was going on.

He's making it up. He says that this thing "started" as a project to get into film school. I say it's still a project to get into film school. An elaborate piece of performance art to see who he can get in on his "movement." It is literally impossible to believe as many factually false things as he claims to believe. I predict that LC3 will be a big "ha ha, joke's on you" compilation of his sycophants looking like idiots at the public appearances he's arranged.

That would've been pretty damn awesome, except for the fact that a lot of real people died that day. I think he's really sick either way.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Ha! What a moron that guy is. My first reaction was, "jeez, wouldn't it be nice to have someone to debate who is smart enough to know that the north tower "spire" isn't part of the core? (Jeff King thinks it is part of the core.) That's Christophera country."

On the home page of his website, he both touts that incredibly piece of moonbat paranoia by Richard Allen Grove, and shows that he (King) agrees with Grove that the WTC began construction in 1971. Liike Dylan Avery, he's been "researching" this stuff for years. Ugh.

He also apparently big on the idea that the U.S. government controls the weather.

The problem with debating these people is that anyone dumb enough to debate us isn't going to be able to last in the debate, and people who it would be fun to debate (Steven E. Jones, David Ray Griffin et al.) are smart enough that they would never agree to a debate.

edited: spelling

Maybe we could take one from the Dylan Avery play book and just start announcing all over the place that Jones or Griffin has agreed to debate you.

Or we could be slightly more honest and just say that you agreed to debate them, conveniently leaving out the fact that they haven't said one way or the other.



I'm kidding...but only kind of.

 

[ZouPrime]

I was going to post over there an explanation of why centrifugal force is just an illusion, but someone (mirts) beat me to it. Is that you?

Nope. I don't have any account there, and don't plan to create one.

 

[kookbreaker]

Just let it go.

Someone needs to tell questy that its not they who need to let anything go.

Any idea what spurred this unbanning? Complaints from the group's working brain cell? Nasty words from those who hold the server wires?

 

[Manny]

Someone needs to tell questy that its not they who need to let anything go.

Any idea what spurred this unbanning? Complaints from the group's working brain cell? Nasty words from those who hold the server wires?

I will say, in somone's (I know not whose) defense, that the most prolific banners quickly become banned themselves there. There was that OKsomethingsomethingnumber guy -- he's gone. Unregistered. And then there was a guy before that, I forget his handle, who did the first wave of JREF bannings. He got into a fight with either Rox or DJ, I think, and he got disappeared too.

 

[Pardalis]

OK, I finally got around to seeing the LC3 preview dealie. Well, OK, I didn't see the whole thing, but I caught the front end of each scene to see what was going on.

He's making it up. He says that this thing "started" as a project to get into film school. I say it's still a project to get into film school. An elaborate piece of performance art to see who he can get in on his "movement." It is literally impossible to believe as many factually false things as he claims to believe. I predict that LC3 will be a big "ha ha, joke's on you" compilation of his sycophants looking like idiots at the public appearances he's arranged.

I think he's way in over his head now, and the "I just made a student film" scenario is his escape route.

 

[Pardalis]

I will say, in somone's (I know not whose) defense, that the most prolific banners quickly become banned themselves there. There was that OKsomethingsomethingnumber guy -- he's gone. Unregistered. And then there was a guy before that, I forget his handle, who did the first wave of JREF bannings. He got into a fight with either Rox or DJ, I think, and he got disappeared too.

You know, when I read your posts I can almost hear your New York accent. It's really enjoyable!

 

[Gravy]

Maybe we could take one from the Dylan Avery play book and just start announcing all over the place that Jones or Griffin has agreed to debate you.

Or we could be slightly more honest and just say that you agreed to debate them, conveniently leaving out the fact that they haven't said one way or the other.

I'm kidding...but only kind of.

Well, let's not forget the "Scholars for Truth" superstars "Team Liberty," who have challenged "The Government" to a debate on September 16.

Since no one from the government is going to accept the challenge, and since the government ultimately works for me, I'm going to accept the challenge. Won't it be a nice photo, me and a pitcher of water at a long table on one side, and the 7 "Scholars" on the other side?

Seriously, though, their challenge to the government is a joke. They just want to brag that no one in the government will answer their challenge or face their "evidence." So how about organizing a JREF 9/11 debate team and challenging these "Scholars" to a moderated debate in a neutral location? If they say yes, we'll make monkeys out of them, and if they say no, we'll have the same bragging rights that they're looking for.

We'll need a catchy name. "Laymen Opposed to Lunacy" (LOL)?

 

[Polaris]

What, you think Clinton is the only President to diddle the interns? Bush is walking back to the steno pool and asking "who wants to see some shock and awe, baby?"

That would make me have some respect for the guy. If I found out tomorrow that the whole Pat Robertson, Billy Graham evangelism stuff was just an act, a put on, I'd sleep a lot easier.

 

[dubfan]

Well, let's not forget the "Scholars for Truth" superstars "Team Liberty," who have challenged "The Government" to a debate on September 16.

Since no one from the government is going to accept the challenge, and since the government ultimately works for me, I'm going to accept the challenge. Won't it be a nice photo, me and a pitcher of water at a long table on one side, and the 7 "Scholars" on the other side?

Seriously, though, their challenge to the government is a joke. They just want to brag that no one in the government will answer their challenge or face their "evidence." So how about organizing a JREF 9/11 debate team and challenging these "Scholars" to a moderated debate in a neutral location? If they say yes, we'll make monkeys out of them, and if they say no, we'll have the same bragging rights that they're looking for.

We'll need a catchy name. "Laymen Opposed to Lunacy" (LOL)?

Sign me up.

I like your name, too, Gravy, but there can really be only one name, and we all know what that is.

 

[Pardalis]

We'll need a catchy name. "Laymen Opposed to Lunacy" (LOL)?

Good one.

How about this one: "Reality Advocates Strike Back"

 

[Manny]

Sign me up.

I like your name, too, Gravy, but there can really be only one name, and we all know what that is.

Skeptics Helping Inform Lame Loosers?

Para, thanks!

 

[Gravy]

Sign me up.

I like your name, too, Gravy, but there can really be only one name, and we all know what that is.

Ninjas for Truth?

 

[dubfan]

I will say, in somone's (I know not whose) defense, that the most prolific banners quickly become banned themselves there. There was that OKsomethingsomethingnumber guy -- he's gone. Unregistered. And then there was a guy before that, I forget his handle, who did the first wave of JREF bannings. He got into a fight with either Rox or DJ, I think, and he got disappeared too.

Yes, that's true. It's not a consistent application of common sense, but flashes of it are occasionally seen. I had a few brief discussions with RedPillNeo and he was reasonably fair and sensible.

During the last wave of mass JREF suspensions, they also banned outright OCMARK (deleted his account). Apart from his dogged insistence that all skeptics be banned, OCMARK was mainly noteworthy for his skillful debate technique of posting pictures of Bozo the Clown.

 

[dubfan]

Skeptics Helping Inform Lame Loosers?

Nominated.

 

[kookbreaker]

I will say, in somone's (I know not whose) defense, that the most prolific banners quickly become banned themselves there. There was that OKsomethingsomethingnumber guy -- he's gone. Unregistered. And then there was a guy before that, I forget his handle, who did the first wave of JREF bannings. He got into a fight with either Rox or DJ, I think, and he got disappeared too.

I guess one could call it 'Active Commander' syndrome. Somehow the Admin thinks that the agressive and active members of a forum should be its guardians since they are so 'with the cause' or somesuch. So they put them in charge and the loudmouth starts banning everyone they lose an arguement with.

I remember a few of the moderated USENET groups had situautions like this.

 

[dubfan]

Ninjas for Truth?

Team JREF Ninja WAVE!!!

 

[Belz...]

Allright, people.

Now I'm a Ninja too!

You asked for it.

ETA: Beware my Infernal Pincer Attack.

 

[bob_kark]

Allright, people.

Now I'm a Ninja too!

You asked for it.

I am Ninja, he is Ninja, she is Ninja too! I am Ninja, we are Ninja, but I believe that you are Ninja too!!

 

[dubfan]

ETA: Beware my Infernal Pincer Attack.

Yeah, but can you defeat even one of the 1000 Fighting Styles of Donald Rumsfeld?

Spider Hand Technique!