Loose Change Forum Lists

[maccy]

There's some list-making going on at the loose change forums.

The first is a list of conspiracies. So far, they have:

JFK's Murder
Princess Diana's Death
9/11
2004 Madrid Bombings
7/7/05 London Bombings
RFK's murder and the theory of Sirhan Sirhan being a real life Manchurian candidate
JFK Jr.'s plane possibly being sabotaged
Police/CIA/FBI involvement in Martin Luther King Jr.'s murder
Oklahoma City bombing and FBI involvement
John Lennon Death
Moon landing 1969
Protocols of Zion
New World Order

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1137

There's another list on how 9/11 has effected people's rights and freedoms:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=286

Weirdly enough, they don't seem to be able to come up with a nice simple list on this subject.

Inspired by this thread at LC, JAStewart started a similar discussion on this forum

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69029

 

[Bell]

They forgot the holocaust and shapeshifting lizards

 

[maccy]

They forgot the holocaust and shapeshifting lizards

They're getting closer to shapshifting lizards:

lets see here...
Moon
JFK
MLK
9/11
Iraq war
New world order
UFO
Roswell
Aliens
Technology
Dude that shot JFK's 'killer'
Police
Air Force
Drugs
Antrax

h43r: and thats just a few <_<

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1137&view=findpost&p=9557380

Abraham Lincoln and Ghandi have also been mentioned.

I'm still waiting for somebody to say "I don't believe these theories the only thing there is evidence for is a 9/11 inside job" - or even to argue that just one of the conspircay theories so far listed doesn't make sense.

To be fair though, there's been no dissent so far to JAStewart's assertion that Holocaust Denial is disgusting; although Pdoherty seems to think that JREFers are morally equivalent to Holocaust deniers for being sceptical about the Franklin child abuse theory.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

technology? how is that a conspiracy?

 

[Lisa Simpson]

Because it's all backwards engineered from aliens.

 

[Bell]

Dude that shot JFK's 'killer'

That would be Jack Ruby. If a nutter is going to say JFk's killing is a conspiracy, it would suit him to know the basic facts...

 

[Lisa Simpson]

I have little desire to go read the thread, so can someone tell me why JFK Jr.'s plane would have been sabotaged?

 

[Bell]

I have little desire to go read the thread, so can someone tell me why JFK Jr.'s plane would have been sabotaged?

He had an appartement right across the street from Hook & Ladder 8 in Manhattan* He probably used that place to spy on the FDNY as he was trying to break open the 9/11 conspiracy. Or something...

ETA: * this is true, acording to a firefighter at the station. He told after JFK jr, Edward Burns moved there.

 

[NickUK]

He had an appartement right across the street from Hook & Ladder 8 in Manhattan. He probably used that place to spy on the FDNY as he was trying to break open the 9/11 conspiracy. Or something...

...and they did it 2 years BEFORE 9/11.

Damn these NWO fiends are CLEVER!

 

[maccy]

I have little desire to go read the thread, so can someone tell me why JFK Jr.'s plane would have been sabotaged?

They aren't coming up with reasons, they're just making lists.

I think, perhaps, you have to work back from Killtowns apparent theory that all plane crashes result from conspiracies and then guess at a reason...

My guess is that it's probably something along the lines of the NWO hating all Kennedys but only having to warn off Teddy.

This is what google led me to:

Why would anyone want to kill John Kennedy Jr.? There are many reasons. He was planning to run for national office according to Newsweek and People. In fact, he had already told Al Gore he would run for President in 2000 or 2004. He told friends he would have run for Senate in New York, but let Hillary run instead. And he could have won. He was the most popular man in the US. He was also the only Kennedy to ever acknowledge a conspiracy in his father's death. As the owner of an influential magazine, GEORGE, he had just launched an investigation into the death of his father. Described as the "sexiest man in the world" by PEOPLE Magazine, Kennedy was just too attractive an opponent for our internal enemies to let live and have to eventually face in a Presidential election. He might easily be President right now if he had not been killed. With JFK Jr. alive in 2004, Kerry would never have been nominated over 'John-John'.

If elected, JFK Jr. would soon discover who was behind the murders of his father and his Uncle Bobby. There is voluminous evidence that the Kennedy assassinations were covered up. Many of the same folks who killed the first two Kennedys are still in power. There's no reason to believe that Jack Jr. would not be considered an expendable target if they considered him a political threat - and they did.

http://gatorpress.com/badsam/page20.html

Edited to add:

There's a description of some more theoris here: http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/kthomas.htm

This is my favourite bit from the article:

One noted researcher, Robert Sterling of the Konformistweb site, felt that the death involved no conspiracy "compelled by one simple fact that just can't be ignored: John F. Kennedy, Jr. was a pea-brained moron." Sterling called the late Kennedy a "dim-witted pretty boy" whose "career in politics may have been already out of the question" because he "had already risen to his level of certifiable incompetence by being the Editor-in-Chief of the atrocious George Magazine."

2nd Edit to add:

And here's a Guardian report from 1999: http://www.guardian.co.uk/kennedy/story/0,2763,206565,00.html

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I will stop quoting from the list thread at some point, but I can't resist when stuff like this is posted:

the moon landing was NOT faked. However, some of the videos were brushed to take away proof of alien bases on the dark side of the moon. There are multiple images of towers that were smudged out. See www.disclosureproject.com for more info about this...

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1137&view=findpost&p=9561033

 

[Bell]

Oh my god... Oh my god...

 

[Oliver]

Do these guys realize that their "Let´s hate the USG"-truthmovement
is the most realistic conspiracy i´ve seen so far? I should start a thread
to show that they are the biggest disinfo conspirators.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

Thanks. Very enlightening.

One noted researcher, Robert Sterling of the Konformistweb site, felt that the death involved no conspiracy "compelled by one simple fact that just can't be ignored: John F. Kennedy, Jr. was a pea-brained moron." Sterling called the late Kennedy a "dim-witted pretty boy" whose "career in politics may have been already out of the question" because he "had already risen to his level of certifiable incompetence by being the Editor-in-Chief of the atrocious George Magazine."

As I recall, it did take several tries before John John managed to pass the bar examination.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Described as the "sexiest man in the world" by PEOPLE Magazine, Kennedy was just too attractive an opponent for our internal enemies to let live

probably the only person the NWO killed for being too hot

kinda gives the "im too sexy fro my shirt" song a new twist

 

[Lisa Simpson]

George Clooney better cover his @ss, as he's been named Sexiest Man Alive twice and he's spoken in front of the U.N.

 

[maccy]

probably the only person the NWO killed for being too hot

kinda gives the "im too sexy fro my shirt" song a new twist

It's NWO mind-control:



Did you miss the memo on this one Agent Defaultdotxbe?

 

[Gravy]

Thanks. Very enlightening.
As I recall, it did take several tries before John John managed to pass the bar examination.

That's not unusual. He wasn't a genius but he wasn't dumb. I ask myself, "Self, if you were in his shoes, would you spend your time studying legal precedents or spend your time having any woman you wanted?"

 

[maccy]

I know I'm effectively quoting the whole of that thread in this one, but here's another:

I can't believe no one mentioned WTC93 and how Ahmed Salem was an "informant" the entire time he was in the "Al Qaeda" cell. In fact it was Salem who supplied the materials to "Al Qaeda". Wonder where he got them at? Oh yeah, the FBI. Guess the FBI bombed the WTC the 1st time. You can be sure Clinton and his criminal scum administration were well aware of the thing. And if the "Al Qaeda" guys weren't incompetent and parked the van where they were suppose to the tower would have immediately toppled over into the other tower.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1137&view=findpost&p=9555970

Still no sign of dissent from Truthers that don't believe all this crazy stuff.

 

[Horatius]

And if the "Al Qaeda" guys weren't incompetent and parked the van where they were suppose to the tower would have immediately toppled over into the other tower.

Exactly how big a bang would it take to "topple" one of the towers? I think the only people stupider than those who think this would have happened are the AQ types who hoped it would happen.

 

[PerryLogan]

Wouldn't it be easier for them to list what's NOT a conspiracy?