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Yes, Alice Shortcake, those threads are monuments of information.

You should have written "Your Highness." One addresses a duke as "Your Grace."

It is to be hoped that Her Majesty will forgive you.

It is, indeed.
Back in the day (15th, 16th century) a Maj was addressed as Your Grace.
But thanks for the update o modern usage, both of you!
 
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Alas, Majesty, I centred my attention on the famous personal wit and charm and neglected the consummate majesty which characterises Your Sovereign Presence.
 
Earlier in this thread, I suggest a casual sort of proto-test for the OP; having someone randomly choose one of flaccon's oldest spirit recordings, along with the paperwork documenting what the spirits had supposedly said...then having flaccon blindly listen to the recording and accurately match the documentation. Although I realized it was possible that the OP had developed the skill and memory required to ID the recording (1 of hundreds) by non-paranormal means, I seriously doubted she had. I felt this simple procedure would, at least, provide a reasonable starting point in that it would either support or contradict the consistency of the perceptions themselves. Obviously, if the receiver perceived two different messages from the same recording, that would seem to disqualify the claim.

However, now it seems this group of ghost hunters are claiming the recordings can be changed at any time from the great beyond (without any electronic evidence of change), which seems to make any practical test impossible. I suspect that was the goal of this thread from the start.
 
Earlier in this thread, I suggest a casual sort of proto-test for the OP; having someone randomly choose one of flaccon's oldest spirit recordings, along with the paperwork documenting what the spirits had supposedly said...then having flaccon blindly listen to the recording and accurately match the documentation. Although I realized it was possible that the OP had developed the skill and memory required to ID the recording (1 of hundreds) by non-paranormal means, I seriously doubted she had. I felt this simple procedure would, at least, provide a reasonable starting point in that it would either support or contradict the consistency of the perceptions themselves. Obviously, if the receiver perceived two different messages from the same recording, that would seem to disqualify the claim.

However, now it seems this group of ghost hunters are claiming the recordings can be changed at any time from the great beyond (without any electronic evidence of change), which seems to make any practical test impossible. I suspect that was the goal of this thread from the start.


I believe flaccon remarked some time ago her surprise that some of her old recordings had been re-altered. The spirits adjust things, apparently, probably to keep their remarks current and topical.
 
I believe flaccon remarked some time ago her surprise that some of her old recordings had been re-altered. The spirits adjust things, apparently, probably to keep their remarks current and topical.


Probably posts like 839:
Maurice, try to understand this one ! I just been going thru old recordings for Alderbank,, and I noticed the sentence "We don't belong in a circus" I thought "nope you don't" Then I thought about it. That recording was a few months back, and this is a new saying of theirs (are you following that so far?)

So I opened another old recording, and the same sentence appeared. I clicked open another old recording and ask them to say a different phrase, and they repeated that instead of "We don't belong in a circus" This is my point about they are not actually being recorded as such. ....

and 1070
They speak in full sentence, join in conversation, repeat phrases, names, on new or old recordings. ...
 
I believe flaccon remarked some time ago her surprise that some of her old recordings had been re-altered. The spirits adjust things, apparently, probably to keep their remarks current and topical.

So the recordings change in line with flaccon's mood swings. Got it.

Norm
 
Uh, oh, looks like someone else beat the spirits in the the "Great Mystery of Life" race.


Thank you for correcting me on Francis' birth date. All the same, he was the reincarnation of Jesus.
I started reading psychology after a couple of unusual events I was unable to explain to myself. I soon saw the fallacy of Freud's method of dream interpretation, while thankful for his recognition that dreams do have meanings. So, what exactly are dreams?
In time I was able to show that dreams are telepathy in the sleeping state, that dreams always come through in the present tense, first person singular. Someone is telepathically communicating with me in real time. (being a working woman, although I was aware of some telepathic communications in my waking state, for accuracy I came to rely on dreams, even though dreams usually symbolize and need to be interpreted).
This is an account in a nutshell of my progress. Several of the early dreams involved historical persons. When interpreting these dreams I had to put them in a historical context. For a while I went with the Tibetans' belief that there are some personal "somewhere out there" of each of us they called the astral records. Eventually I realized that there are no such records but the communications were coming from the person him/herself in real time. So where is this person? Jesus is dead, yet he is talking. So, where is he?
More than 20 years passed since I first got on this strange but interesting bandwagon, and now I had to show that there must be a parallel world where people who are dead to us on earth, must live. This implies two bodies, one that may die and the other that moves on to "where?" Where, but to a parallel world, since I doubt there is really heaven and hell, but certainly there must be some other location we have yet to identify. We do come from somewhere at birth, life simply does not emerge from nothing.
My readings into physics eventually gave the answer. I have identified the Higgs particle in 2008, included my sketch of it in my book I obtained the copyright for in 2010, and bingo, experimental scientists in Geneva in 2013 identified it as the God particle.
In my book I am describing the Higgs as the "little Higgs that can", because this is the particle with the ability to move from one universe to the other. As the physical body disintegrates at death the bond breaks and the Higgs moves over. Obviously, it must carry memories with it because Jesus now over there is able to talk about his life on Earth 2000 years ago, or about his life as Francis or his most recent life as a sexually abused little boy trapped in a nasty place.
 
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Obviously, it must carry memories with it because Jesus now over there is able to talk about his life on Earth 2000 years ago, or about his life as Francis or his most recent life as a sexually abused little boy trapped in a nasty place.


So, Jesus is now an alter boy at a Catholic Church?
 
Well, it's not entirely clear (as per usual). I think there is now always noise on his recordings, though whether he also always hears voices in the noise, I guess only he can tell us. flaccon seemed a little taken aback at the suggestion that scrappy might be able to produce spirit recordings independently, without her involvement.

I record in total silence. I used to get a quiet hiss and now I don't. Flaccon wasn't taken aback at all, don't knw where you get that from. She was relieved my PC altered.
 
Just to clarify:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Deuteronomy&chapter=18&verse=

Deuteronomy Chapter 18:

10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

she's not messing with spirits, they were "messing" with her. she didn't study the bible much but she knows of no other spirit that can raise the dead heal the sick, produce blood from scars, and attempt to provide for the poor.
 
she's not messing with spirits, they were "messing" with her. she didn't study the bible much but she knows of no other spirit that can raise the dead heal the sick, produce blood from scars, and attempt to provide for the poor.

I don't know of any spirit that does those things. You're treading on dangerously heretical ground here...
 
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The link on that page to 'apophenia' actually talks about hearing 'spirit' voices in manipulated recordings.

Incidentally, the MP3 recording posted earlier sounded to me like robot pidgeons in an alien aviary. Something unidentifiable grossly distorted. I wouldn't remotely have considered those sounds voices if I hadn't seen the thread comments.
 
she's not messing with spirits, they were "messing" with her. she didn't study the bible much but she knows of no other spirit that can raise the dead heal the sick, produce blood from scars, and attempt to provide for the poor.

Raise the dead?
 
she's not messing with spirits, they were "messing" with her. she didn't study the bible much but she knows of no other spirit that can raise the dead heal the sick, produce blood from scars, and attempt to provide for the poor.

Going on YouTube looking for voices is consulting with spirits.

Repeatedly listening to recordings on multiple computers is consulting with spirits.

Playing these recordings to anyone who will listen is consulting with spirits.

No wonder the church don't want to help.
 
scrappy said:
she's not messing with spirits, they were "messing" with her. she didn't study the bible much but she knows of no other spirit that can raise the dead heal the sick, produce blood from scars, and attempt to provide for the poor.
Raise the dead?
Levitation, not reanimation. This spirit is a philanthropic surgeon and part-time magician...
 
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