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I haven't been paying complete attention, so help me catch up, please.

Do the spirits still have this very important message to deliver, a message that will likely save mankind, it being that important, and they speak though the voice of Flaccon's dearly departed dad, but with a foreign accent, and all of Flaccon's family hear the same things that Flaccon hears, except the ones that don't, that being all of them, and the scrappy doesn't understand why his own computer being infected with the spirit virus isn't proof enough of their existence, because otherwise they'd need to do something that actually demonstrated their existence, and, Lord knows, they don't to requests?

Does that about capture it?
 
jsfisher said:
I haven't been paying complete attention, so help me catch up, please.

Do the spirits still have this very important message to deliver, a message that will likely save mankind, it being that important, and they speak though the voice of Flaccon's dearly departed dad, but with a foreign accent, and all of Flaccon's family hear the same things that Flaccon hears, except the ones that don't, that being all of them, and the scrappy doesn't understand why his own computer being infected with the spirit virus isn't proof enough of their existence, because otherwise they'd need to do something that actually demonstrated their existence, and, Lord knows, they don't to requests?

Does that about capture it?
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In a nutshell.

Pun intended.
 
I predict the spirits will inform us that they're way too busy making live appearances on all those altered YouTube videos to bother with card tricks.

If the spirits are "us," how the heck do they do that? And what happens when 2 or more people are watching a video at the same time?

My brain hurts :boggled:
 
I don't care from whom or by what paranormal force flaccon and scrappy attribute this to, I would just like a demonstration via a protocol that eliminates pareidolia to a significant degree. They can claim it's the voice of my father for all I care, just quite theorizing about who's voice it is and demonstrate it!

Before we can talk about how a dowser works we have to establish that it does work.

/rant
 
flaccon said:
Pixel I didn't say paredolia is a delusion. Since I discovered the word, of course its perfectly plausible, but doesn't account for accurate and recognisable images of my family members. Also doesn't account for the images that tell a story. It's too uncanny to be paredolia.
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Why we see Hitler's face on a puppy

There is a psychological phenomenon behind our tendency to see images in arbitrary shapes – a modern term for this is apophenia, but it was first diagnosed by Leonardo da Vinci more than five centuries ago. "If you look at a mottled or stained wall," said Leonardo, "you may start to see landscapes, battles and strange faces."
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Alice Shortcake said:
Another thing. Why do we see familiar faces - family members, friends, famous people - in random patterns? Because they're familiar. The same is true of aural pareidolia, which is why flaccon hears her own voice and those of her family members.

Scrappy, if your name for the file mentioned above is an accurate reflection of what you think is being said don't you think it's odd that it doesn't make grammatical sense? Time and again I've noticed that the stuff spouted by spirits consists of inane ideas expressed in poorly constructed sentences. Does death have a deleterious effect on the intellect?
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Good post, to which I for one would really like to see an answer. Unfortunately, even though I shall follow subsequent posts carefully, I'll bet that answer will be there none!


ETA to change 'will there be' to above. Still not sure if I've got them the right way round! :)
 
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SusanB-M1 said:
Good post, to which I for one would really like to see an answer. Unfortunately, even though I shall follow subsequent posts carefully, I'll bet that answer will be there none!


ETA to change 'will there be' to above. Still not sure if I've got them the right way round! :)
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[QUOTE="The Walrus and the Carpenter," Lewis Carroll]But answer came there none
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.[/QUOTE]

So I'd guess the future tense would be, "...answer there will be none." ;)
 
flaccon seems unable, or unwilling, to accept that thanks to our pattern-seeking brains we hear and see things that are relevant to us. I'm reminded of a believer in the authenticity of the Shroud of Turn who not only saw coins on the image's eyes, he was even able to recognize the king depicted on the coins and discover when they were minted! No wonder flaccon thinks that the images she finds in blood/paint splashes tell a story.
 
Hokulele said:
They are an abomination unto the Lord.

Deut. 18:10-12.
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Orphia Nay said:
There you go, flaccon.

The Bible says to stop messing about with spirits. Stop it.
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Just to clarify:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Deuteronomy&chapter=18&verse=

Deuteronomy Chapter 18:

10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
 
Alice Shortcake said:
flaccon seems unable, or unwilling, to accept that thanks to our pattern-seeking brains we hear and see things that are relevant to us. I'm reminded of a believer in the authenticity of the Shroud of Turn who not only saw coins on the image's eyes, he was even able to recognize the king depicted on the coins and discover when they were minted! No wonder flaccon thinks that the images she finds in blood/paint splashes tell a story.
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Indeed, Alice Shortcake, if you follow the link given in the OP of our latest TS thread (part I), you'll see some extraordinary examples of pareidolia.
Here's the link.
http://www.missionoftheshroud.com/miracle-photos/miracle-photos.html

So no, it's not a delusion.
I was particularly impressed by the fishing dwarf seen in the TS, myself.

flaccon, any chance of your telling us just what the calibration consists of that you do?
 
Whatever happened to flaccon and scrappy? They don't seem to have been around since we suggested a simple test they could easily do.
 
pakeha said:
Indeed, Alice Shortcake, if you follow the link given in the OP of our latest TS thread (part I), you'll see some extraordinary examples of pareidolia.
Here's the link.
http://www.missionoftheshroud.com/miracle-photos/miracle-photos.html

So no, it's not a delusion.
I was particularly impressed by the fishing dwarf seen in the TS, myself.

flaccon, any chance of your telling us just what the calibration consists of that you do?
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Oddly enough, pakeha, yesterday evening I finished reading that thread and its ginormous predecessor. Lots of interesting information - none of it provided by Jabba, of course.

The TS pareidolia pics are.........interesting. Oh, to think of the millions of paranormal images I've bunged into the washing machine over the years!

Isn't it quiet in here without flaccon and scrappy? Perhaps they're enjoying a heavy calibration session.
 
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