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Maurice Ledifficile said:
I understand this is to be taken in the first degree. There's almost no other way for the conversation to go. Unless she calls a guy like Howard Stern. That could be different.

Whatever you do flaccon, stay away from the morning radio shows. Unless it's different in England, those guys will chew you up real fast.
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Geraldo Rivera. That's the guy she should call.
 
Maurice Ledifficile said:
Or Oprah. They'd probably promote it as a cure for autism.
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Oprah would make flaccon cry. Oprah makes everyone cry. Even steroid man cried.

Geraldo, on the other hand, just needs some sort of wall he can bust through to get to flaccon. Now, that's television!
 
flaccon said:
There is no point in any uploads. I was informed they lose quality/sound/distort etc...
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You do realise that there is absolutely no difference between emailing a file and uploading a file.

When you email a file, to you think that it goes directly along a wire from your PC to the recipient's PC?

No. It is uploaded to a mail server and then you download the email from that server.

To claim that uploaded files are distorted by the process and email files are not is beyond absurd.
 
EHocking said:
You do realise that there is absolutely no difference between emailing a file and uploading a file.

When you email a file, to you think that it goes directly along a wire from your PC to the recipient's PC?

No. It is uploaded to a mail server and then you download the email from that server.

To claim that uploaded files are distorted by the process and email files are not is beyond absurd.
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It's cobblers on stilts. And shows a complete lack of understanding about how the internet actually works.

Flaccon, leave while you still have a tiny shred of dignity. Put this bizarre pantomime to bed. Go and see a psychiatrist as well - you need help. It's not an insult, it's an observation. I don't think that we, as skeptics, should carry on pandering to Flaccon's obvious delusions and hallucinations. She needs the help of a psychiatrist and that is that.
 
PS, I have not lied once in this thread.
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flaccon said:
I give up, I quit, I'm outer here. I did not come online to be scoffed, ridiculed or called a liar. You will eat your words one day soon enough. Good night.
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Well, if you claim you had not lied before, you made 4 posts on this thread after you said "I quit, I'm outer here". Explain how that statement was not a lie.

Norm
 
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abaddon said:
Flaccon, Caleb's file contains utter silence. No noise, no background, nothing. If you heard anything on that file then it was not from the file at all, it was from your equipment and the file is irrelevant.

If you heard a continuous drone or anything at all, then that is proof positive that your equipment/settings are introducing artefacts which do not exist in the files.
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Either that or the spirits are learning to play the bagpipes.
 
Flaccon:

The newspapers will dismiss you as a nutcase. Never again will you get the respectful help and fantastic amount of attention as has been lavished on you in this thread. You are throwing away the opportunity to truly prove your claims by never having applied some honest attention to the ideas presented early on in this thread for putting together a test protocol. You have evaded every attempt to help you formulate a genuine test, and made absolutely no effort to understand the cool headed discussion of what such a protocol needs in order to be a valid test.

I am really annoyed with your behaviour. You have spurned the efforts of all these good people to enable progress, wasting every one's time, and then acted like a spoilt child spitting haughty spite in their faces.

You are dishonest. You are lying to yourself, and you have made clear claims which you have then refused or been unable to substantiate in any way.

This is simply to summarise the result of the process of this thread. It's over.

Frankly I don't care what happens to you now. Go and wither in your delusional solitude if that's what you truly want, as you seem to have demonstrated here. You will never get this kind of help and attention again. Good bye.
 
tuxcat said:
It's cobblers on stilts. And shows a complete lack of understanding about how the internet actually works.
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It's just another bit of goalpost shifting. The files have been uploaded, so flaccon asks for them to be emailed. If they are emailed, there will turn out to be something wrong with that; they won't be properly silent, or they'll be in the wrong format, or whatever. Or it will just turn out that emailing them doesn't work and they need to be on a 5 1⁄4" floppy sent in the post.
 
Mojo said:
It's just another bit of goalpost shifting. The files have been uploaded, so flaccon asks for them to be emailed. If they are emailed, there will turn out to be something wrong with that; they won't be properly silent, or they'll be in the wrong format, or whatever. Or it will just turn out that emailing them doesn't work and they need to be on a 5 1⁄4" floppy sent in the post.
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And don't forget that it will sound completely different to when it was played over the phone.

I'm sure a certain GP will love this being in the press- not to mention a few church dignitaries.
 
abaddon said:
Flaccon, Caleb's file contains utter silence. No noise, no background, nothing. If you heard anything on that file then it was not from the file at all, it was from your equipment and the file is irrelevant.

If you heard a continuous drone or anything at all, then that is proof positive that your equipment/settings are introducing artefacts which do not exist in the files.
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Sorry, much confusion has resulted from this whole process.

First, I created a silent file: silence.wav
https://app.box.com/s/nr3ws3f36lmjuv92inbl


Then, I recorded the sound inside my studio, with the volume "normalized".
ambient noise2.wav
https://app.box.com/s/5e2m272jsdrf89dvxzxy

(the result is essentially dirty white noise with a little static tick and some little surges in the bass)

The word "normalized", in the audio world, means maximum volume. So I cranked up the volume.


Unfortunately, my "normalized" volume (or maximum volume) and Flaccon's "normal" volume are two different things.

If she is listening with her ear to the speaker, indeed, it might be uncomfortable. She should turn her volume down to a setting where she is comfortable.

It's not hard to imagine that she requires the sound file to be played back at a certain volume, but she can do that with the volume controls on her computer. Just turn ambient noise2.wav down until it's "right" -- whatever that is.

I can also provide recordings of ambient sounds from my neighborhoods, past and present. These will be completely different.

I can simulate the effect that flaccon probably wants: Mix a little white noise with some real-world ambient sounds and reduce the volume of the whole recording to around -20 db, or something.

All these files can be checked to see whether they've been altered. (They won't have been altered.) We can use the hash method, or the more literal inverted-phase method. If the file is the same, before and after, when added to itself with the phase inverted, it will produce absolute silence.

This is the best I can do. I leave the rest to others.
 
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flaccon said:
... I heard calebs audio, I don't know what your hearing but I hear a very loud drone all the way through, almost burst my ear drums. It isn't quiet and it wasn't sent to my email address. I thanked caleb, not sure what else to tell you about that, but I don't see the lie.
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Exactly which file are you talking about? Link please.
 
Mojo said:
It's just another bit of goalpost shifting. The files have been uploaded, so flaccon asks for them to be emailed. If they are emailed, there will turn out to be something wrong with that; they won't be properly silent, or they'll be in the wrong format, or whatever. Or it will just turn out that emailing them doesn't work and they need to be on a 5 1⁄4" floppy sent in the post.
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Which is why one needs to listen with one's ear pressed up against the speaker, in person, where the voices will be clear and articulate. Except, they won't be because it takes years to acclimate one's hearing to make out a particular spirit voice. Except you still may not hear it, until your heart is open enough to what the spirit guides are telling you. Except that may not work either, because...
 
flaccon said:
There is no point in any uploads. I was informed they lose quality/sound/distort etc. I can promise you this, you will hear it all in the near future.
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flaccon said:
.... He told me they do lose quality. I sent a file to a friend and listened via land line, they do distort.
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You have been explained that uploading a file does not change the file, you also keep ignoring that explanation and carry on as if it hadn't been given.

I've asked you
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9355996&postcount=4044
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9357200&postcount=4090
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in what way an audio file purportedly lost quality simply by uploading it, I'll ask you again, in what way was the quality of uploaded audio files poor, according to these 'friends'?
 

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calebprime said:
Then, I recorded the sound inside my studio, with the volume "normalized".
ambient noise2.wav
https://app.box.com/s/5e2m272jsdrf89dvxzxy

(the result is essentially dirty white noise with a little static tick and some little surges in the bass)

The word "normalized", in the audio world, means maximum volume. So I cranked up the volume.


Unfortunately, my "normalized" volume (or maximum volume) and Flaccon's "normal" volume are two different things.
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OK That's the problem, then. I bet if you reduced the level of that ambient noise recording by around 40 or 50dB it would sound just about perfect to flaccon.
 
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