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To keep file size down, the audio component of WMV is lossy and highly compressed. WMV is a strange format to use for audio recording (flaccon covers the laptop webcam when recording these). Perhaps she tried more usual audio formats (MP3, WMA, WAV) and found that WMV gave the 'best' results

Wishing I could add my thoughts here regarding audio technology. I haven't tried any other formats, but willing to follow instruction.

Yes I cover the lens so I don't see myself all the time.
 
Wishing I could add my thoughts here regarding audio technology. I haven't tried any other formats, but willing to follow instruction.

You have already found just about the perfect format with which to hear imaginary voices.

The recording system you are using makes low quality sound recordings with plenty of noise, flaws and artefacts, a portion of which somewhat resemble speech-like sounds.

If you made a recording in noisy surroundings you would hardly notice those flaws. You have learned to make recordings in very quiet surroundings then turn the volume right up on replay so that what you hear is the greatly amplified strange coding artefacts distorting the small amount of real live sound which was available to be recorded.

Anything you do to try to improve your recordings will reduce those flaws and hence make the 'voices' disappear. I appreciate that what you want to achieve is a way to enhance the voices so that you can make out their words, but I'm afraid that can't be done since they aren't voices and there aren't really any words to enhance.

Sorry to be the bearer of disappointing news, but that's just the way it is.
 
I asked you to explain what "special fingers" mean and this is your response. Can you explain what "being within" means? Can you explain how getting through the electric wires to you fingers is relevant. Up to now, you've only mentioned acoustic messages; are you now asserting that you get messages through your fingers?

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear enough due to not fully understanding their explanations myself. As far as I glean, spirits operate within us. They see through our eyes, taste our foods, and help fight off infections/diseases. They claim to have travelled through my fingers and into the electric wires of the laptop. They said "Some of this will help with other systems" meaning they do not require the laptop itself.
 
They said "Some of this will help with other systems" meaning they do not require the laptop itself.

flaccon, do I understand correctly that not only do you need multiple times listening to each recording to identify what the words are, but that when you finally have the words you also need to apply further interpretation to what the 'clear and unequivocal' sentence actually means?
 
You have already found just about the perfect format with which to hear imaginary voices.

The recording system you are using makes low quality sound recordings with plenty of noise, flaws and artefacts, a portion of which somewhat resemble speech-like sounds.

If you made a recording in noisy surroundings you would hardly notice those flaws. You have learned to make recordings in very quiet surroundings then turn the volume right up on replay so that what you hear is the greatly amplified strange coding artefacts distorting the small amount of real live sound which was available to be recorded.

Anything you do to try to improve your recordings will reduce those flaws and hence make the 'voices' disappear. I appreciate that what you want to achieve is a way to enhance the voices so that you can make out their words, but I'm afraid that can't be done since they aren't voices and there aren't really any words to enhance.

Sorry to be the bearer of disappointing news, but that's just the way it is.

We hear their words, and also recognise tones. As these creaks began, 3.5 years ago, and I was listening in on playback, the playback was totally silent apart from the occasional creak being picked up. No voice-like sounds, nothing. Also on this machine, I recorded creaks only, the rest was complete silence.
 
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear enough due to not fully understanding their explanations myself. As far as I glean, spirits operate within us. They see through our eyes, taste our foods, and help fight off infections/diseases. They claim to have travelled through my fingers and into the electric wires of the laptop. They said "Some of this will help with other systems" meaning they do not require the laptop itself.

Do you mean you actually touch the wires with your fingers?
 
We hear their words, and also recognise tones.
Yes. Pareidolia is like that.

As these creaks began, 3.5 years ago, and I was listening in on playback, the playback was totally silent apart from the occasional creak being picked up. No voice-like sounds, nothing. Also on this machine, I recorded creaks only, the rest was complete silence.

In those days I guess you were recording and listening back at more normal levels then. Now you have it turned up to 11 and clamp the speaker ports to your ears.
 
flaccon, do I understand correctly that not only do you need multiple times listening to each recording to identify what the words are, but that when you finally have the words you also need to apply further interpretation to what the 'clear and unequivocal' sentence actually means?

Yes one has to listen multiple times.

If one was to record a distant private conversation between a group of people. One would replay the recording over and over to follow each voice/sentence that could be heard. I don't apply interpretation, if I don't hear it, I discard it.
 
flaccon, Jack By The Hedge is right - what you're hearing is nothing more than small sounds picked up from your internal microphone and coding compression artefacts. You say that you don't know much about the technical side of these things. Take it from people that do - what you're recording is not unusual at all. It's exactly what you'd expect to hear when you're doing what you're doing.

The fact that you now admit that the words are not clear and unmistakeable, as you initially claimed, but that instead you have to listen to them many times in order to read meaning in to them is exactly what you'd expect with pareidolia. As is your admission that people are more likely to hear their own names than the names of others.

There is nothing unusual about your recordings at all.
 
flaccon, what do you cover the webcam lens with? Your hand, a finger, a piece of blu-tak...?
 
Looking at it, I don't feel that they have given me different interpretations at all.


What Ward was getting at is that we are feeling that your spirits have changed their claims, as you told us in the beginning that they spoke clearly in unambiguous complete sentences, but now they are much more slippery. Can you see how that looks to anyone objectively disinterested in your evidence?

I can't see how you can be comfortable leaving your "offers" of guaranteed communication etc. on your website.

Imagine how you would feel if you were desperate for something like that, answered this website advertisement (for that is surely what it is), and were then given such a teasing result?

It's kind of tacky. Why don't you take that promise off your website until after you've resolved all this? Just to reduce the chance of harming someone else who may be in distress when they latch onto your site?
 
What Ward was getting at is that we are feeling that your spirits have changed their claims, as you told us in the beginning that they spoke clearly in unambiguous complete sentences, but now they are much more slippery. Can you see how that looks to anyone objectively disinterested in your evidence?

I can't see how you can be comfortable leaving your "offers" of guaranteed communication etc. on your website.

Imagine how you would feel if you were desperate for something like that, answered this website advertisement (for that is surely what it is), and were then given such a teasing result?

It's kind of tacky. Why don't you take that promise off your website until after you've resolved all this? Just to reduce the chance of harming someone else who may be in distress when they latch onto your site?

Props on your posts up thread. Well written. This question that you have posed deserves an answer from the proponent.
 
I hate to beat a dead horse, flaccon, but you have repeatedly stated that the voices are unmistakeable. Clear. Like in a normal conversation. Now you assert the above. Which is it? Sentences are clear or sentences are "gobbeldy gook".

There is much gobbeldy gook (entanglement) yes, but they are able to break from the entanglement and be heard over the entanglement. Whether that be with high-pitched, deep, sluggish, watery, distorted or clear. Once one is attuned to this, it gets easier to recognise. The high-pitched and the clear tones are easier to identify as words/voices.

Adding their vocal ability to electricity, I would expect a lot of distortion. It isn't just a bunch of spirits that can be heard, its a bunch of spirits in the spirit world (Sometimes there are other unidentifiable noises)

For instance, the recording that Alderbank uploaded last night, with the pinkish thumbnail, when it reaches to a flat high-pitched tone (@6 to 9 seconds) there is an electronic voice within/or behind that flat tone. One needs to replay at 6 to 9 seconds over and over, the EVP is in there.
 
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Props on your posts up thread. Well written. This question that you have posed deserves an answer from the proponent.

I did that last night, out of respect to the board. I don't need to advertise for business. That wasn't the point. I made it clear I was not out to profit, I'm not allowed to profit anything. I may even take out the story and be more private with it. I know how it looks, and I know how stupid it all sounds, but certain past events are well documented.
 
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