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[Alderbank]

Yes, it could well be. It could also be a mental health disorder. I can't think of any other possibilities

I can think of two others: interference and spirit voices. Without proper testing it isn't possible to rule out any of them.

Yes I suppose it could be one of those. I often forget about the possibility of spirit voices.

Someone else suggested Microsoft Windows Update. That is far more likely, especially on a Tuesday. Also another family member could be on the laptop while scrappy is at work.

So you see, scrappy, that without investigation it is impossible to know the reason.

We want to work with you to help you find the reason

 

[Maurice Ledifficile]

My mind is fine, and my laptop was silent until I sent tracy a silent recording through a couple of weeks ago . How is this a illness or paredolia? please explain .

Have you no idea how this works?

We have no evidence your mind is fine.
We have no evidence you sent anything.
We have no evidence of voices.
We have no evidence of anything.

We have ambiguous claims by a few witnesses. That is not anywhere near evidence of anything at all, let alone spirits.

Talk, talk, talk...

 

[scrappy]

Yes I suppose it could be one of those. I often forget about the possibility of spirit voices.

Someone else suggested Microsoft Windows Update. That is far more likely, especially on a Tuesday. Also another family member could be on the laptop while scrappy is at work.

So you see, scrappy, that without investigation it is impossible to know the reason.

We want to work with you to help you find the reason

I live on my own ?

 

[Mojo]

Paul, I have agreed to everything that is possible. I have been willing from the off. Paul, how can I possibly work with anyone here after their endless retarded insults?

You appear to be the one who is calling other posters retarded here.

 

[scrappy]

Yes I suppose it could be one of those. I often forget about the possibility of spirit voices.

Someone else suggested Microsoft Windows Update. That is far more likely, especially on a Tuesday. Also another family member could be on the laptop while scrappy is at work.

So you see, scrappy, that without investigation it is impossible to know the reason.

We want to work with you to help you find the reason

Call me anytime ?

 

[Cassidy]

So now, Flocon doesn't want to work out a protocol because of our retarded insults. Great. Who would have thunk.

This is getting stupid. Talk, talk, talk, talk, bla, bla, yada, yada, derp detty derp derp... No action.

Evidence. Not talk. Evidence.

Listen Maurice, the insults I take from these people and your good self, how can I feel comfortable working with this? Tell me how and I will try.

I'd like good natured skeptics to work with, not retards with a vengeance. Disagreements are fine, but with attitude is so immature.

 

[Pixel42]

I live on my own

That rules out one possibility.

Now all you have to do is rule out all the others, until "spirit voices" is the only one remaining.

 

[Alderbank]

I live on my own ?

Thanks. That's a useful answer. It eliminates one possibility and enables us to move forward.

ETA That's how discussion, debate and investigation work

 

[Maurice Ledifficile]

Listen Maurice, the insults I take from these people and your good self, how can I feel comfortable working with this? Tell me how and I will try.

I'd like good natured skeptics to work with, not retards with a vengeance. Disagreements are fine, but with attitude is so immature.

You have some nerve calling people retards.

You already know how. Prove your nonsense, accept reality, or continue to live in a fantasy world of your own making. The choice is yours.

 

[Mojo]

Listen Maurice, the insults I take from these people and your good self, how can I feel comfortable working with this? Tell me how and I will try.

I'd like good natured skeptics to work with, not retards with a vengeance. Disagreements are fine, but with attitude is so immature.

And there you go again. Please think about who is being insulting in this thread.

 

[tuxcat]

I'll not run about Chester trying for a connection to hear bs. I have a busy life offline you know. I won't be going nowhere for a connection, nor will I pay for BTFON. I will sort the connection via talktalk for free. If this thread was a little less viscious I would have probably gone for the BTFON.

Well that's your problem then. Nothing to do with me. It seems unlikely that someone who desperately wants to prove spirits are real would wait. If I had an important message to give to the world I'd do whatever it took.

 

[tuxcat]

So now, Flocon doesn't want to work out a protocol because of our retarded insults. Great. Who would have thunk.

This is getting stupid. Talk, talk, talk, talk, bla, bla, yada, yada, derp detty derp derp... No action.

Evidence. Not talk. Evidence.

It's special pleading. She has no intention of testing her illusive claims. All she wants is a self-congratulatory echo chamber where we can toady and fawn over her. Given that she's calling us lot retarded (despite the fact she can't grasp simple concepts that 8 year olds have no problem with) indicates she's lost her monologue.

 

[scrappy]

Thanks. That's a useful answer. It eliminates one possibility and enables us to move forward.

ETA That's how discussion, debate and investigation work

Call me please ?

 

[Pixel42]

Listen Maurice, the insults I take from these people and your good self, how can I feel comfortable working with this? Tell me how and I will try.

Ignore the posts you consider insulting.

I'd like good natured skeptics to work with, not retards with a vengeance. Disagreements are fine, but with attitude is so immature.

I'm not seeing anything but perfectly understandable frustration, but again you can ignore posters you consider don't have the right attitude. That still leaves plenty of people willing and able to help you get to the bottom of what you're experiencing. But you really need to at least acknowledge the possibility that it's not what you think is going on, just as we acknowledge the possibility that it is what you think by being willing to help you come up with a test that can tell the difference.

 

[tuxcat]

Listen Maurice, the insults I take from these people and your good self, how can I feel comfortable working with this? Tell me how and I will try.

I'd like good natured skeptics to work with, not retards with a vengeance. Disagreements are fine, but with attitude is so immature.

I have an IQ of 140 and am reading a BA (Hons) degree. I am also considering going into a postgrad MA in Marketing. I also have Advanced Highers in Chemistry and Biology. Strawmen are always easier to attack, aren't they?

ETA: And I was good natured until you started wasting my time with your logical fallacies and poorly-constructed rhetoric. It's not my fault that all you want from us lot is a self-congratulatory echo chamber where we can fawn all over you and say how cute it is that you can still speak to folk that have either been buried and decomposed by bacteria or reduced to combustion gas.

 

[Paul2]

Hi Flaccon:

Paul, how can I possibly work with anyone here after their endless retarded insults? Would you?

I absolutely would. Yeah, things get tough in these threads, but the way I look at it, I have to balance that negative versus the potential *huge* positive of demonstrating my claim, which, everyone agrees, would be absolutely incredible. I would not let the tone in these threads dissuade me from such an incredible opportunity.

ETA: As Pixel says, just put the people you find irritating on ignore. Problem solved.

Paul, I have agreed to everything that is possible.

Not quite. You haven't agreed to commit yourself to working up a protocol in the other thread.

 

[scrappy]

Call me please ?

You can use the 141 as well .

 

[Cassidy]

Alderbank why don't you call Robin? The longer you leave it, the more bs we have to sift through. He doesn't bite you know, he's quite respectful. Or will I give him your phone number? One of you have to make the decision so we can move on.

 

[Biscuit]

TEST WITH Mrs S: Mrs S came to my home to go through a basic test. Mrs K and Mr Roberts were the observers. I explained to Mrs S that she will hear much gobbeldy gook.

I did not prompt Mrs S on the initial records. Mrs S heard the word "Evidence" and immediately identified the word as evidence. Mrs S heard other words, and noise suggestive of words. We generated a fresh recording which was filled with too many overlapped voices, so we used a few of the older records. I asked the spirit to repeat certain phrases. 1, Beauchamp. 2, Evidence. 3, We don't belong in a circus. I listened in with her and said to her "I doubt you will hear that sentence its too long" She replied "Yes I got that sentence too" She also heard her full name called out several times and the spirit reminded her of a business she was thinking about. I had no idea what that part meant, but Mrs S explained it to me.

If I wanted to teach a class about pareidolia by having them experience it for themselves I would do almost exactly what you have done here. The fact that she hears similar words to what you have heard and also hears things specific to just her that you did not hear, such as her name and her own business idea, is direct evidence that you are demonstrating the effects of pareidolia.

 

[Maurice Ledifficile]

And I don't think "my good self" had been very insulting. I made one post for which I got a yellow card. I actually sincerely apologized and changed my tone. I made lots of jokes, sure, that's an important part of what I like to do here. None of them were insulting. My advice to you was frank and sincere, if not helpful. I do not appreciate your dishonesty.

I thiink it's time you listened to Alderbank and make good on the truce. Mosey along to the protocol thread.

My spirits exist. I can prove they are spirits because: _________