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[tuxcat]

Why would she need to buy a scanner? She's already been able to get pictures of purported blood stains on her site.

I was pointing it out in case scrappy/flaccon used that as a reason excuse as to why it cannot be done and how easy it is to get a scanner.

ETA: I am indeed that cynical

 

[abaddon]

Hold on a second. Mr. Roberts, who is reportedly utterly convinced about flaccon's desparate spirits trying feebly to get their message out simply vanished when presented with the opportunity to meet a fellow member here? Really? There Mr. Roberts was, with the perfect opportunity to be Johnny on the spot with the evidence, and he went home?

Am I the only one seeing something wrong with this picture?

 

[tuxcat]

Hold on a second. Mr. Roberts, who is reportedly utterly convinced about flaccon's desparate spirits trying feebly to get their message out simply vanished when presented with the opportunity to meet a fellow member here? Really? There Mr. Roberts was, with the perfect opportunity to be Johnny on the spot with the evidence, and he went home?

Am I the only one seeing something wrong with this picture?

Flaccon's spirits aren't half getting about, they've been heard under the sea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Julia_sound.ogg . It wasn't an iceberg grounding, honest. It was a ghostie saying "Joooooooolia!" in a pained voice. That'll teach him to go to that kebab takeaway beside the bus stop.

/sarcasm mode off/

 

[Daylightstar]

I was pointing it out in case scrappy/flaccon used that as a reason excuse as to why it cannot be done and how easy it is to get a scanner.

ETA: I am indeed that cynical

She could take her laptop to any of the many hotspots available over there:

Could be.

Here is a list of hotspots in Chester: http://www.myhotspots.co.uk/results.aspx?Town=Chester

About 150

and start ordering

 

[tuxcat]

She could take her laptop to any of the many hotspots available over there:


and start ordering

Or better still start posting on the forum again otherwise people are going to think it's a midnight flit!

 

[AdMan]

Hold on a second. Mr. Roberts, who is reportedly utterly convinced about flaccon's desparate spirits trying feebly to get their message out simply vanished when presented with the opportunity to meet a fellow member here? Really? There Mr. Roberts was, with the perfect opportunity to be Johnny on the spot with the evidence, and he went home?

Am I the only one seeing something wrong with this picture?

Obviously not.

 

[abaddon]

Flaccon's spirits aren't half getting about, they've been heard under the sea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Julia_sound.ogg . It wasn't an iceberg grounding, honest. It was a ghostie saying "Joooooooolia!" in a pained voice. That'll teach him to go to that kebab takeaway beside the bus stop.

/sarcasm mode off/

Jooolia? I must be honest. It sounds much more like me talking to god on the big white telephone last new year.

 

[tuxcat]

Jooolia? I must be honest. It sounds much more like me talking to god on the big white telephone last new year.

It does rather, I don't know why the discoverers called it Julia. It's very very hard to hear "Joooooolia" in it. The "train" sounds like a steam train whistle.

 

[Mojo]

All kinds of possibilities indeed.
She managed to to get digital images of purported blood stains and get them on her website, a letter should be no problem at all.


E.T.A.: here's how flaccon described this letter:

... GP etc, he's heard and wrote me a letter of concern "To whom it may concern.." The letter was aimed at my local Bishop, ...

If it had been addressed to the local bishop, wouldn't it have said "My Lord" or "Right Reverend Sir"?

But then I see it was "aimed at" the bishop. Perhaps it was made into a paper aeroplane. That might also explain why it is tricky to scan.

 

[tuxcat]

If it had been addressed to the local bishop, wouldn't it have started "My Lord" or "Right Reverend Sir"?

But then I see it was "aimed at" the bishop. Perhaps it was made into a paper aeroplane. That might also explain wht it is tricky to scan.

Yes you do have a point there. Only when someone is writing to an unknown person does they put "to whom it may concern"; a lot like credit card advertising letters kindling.

 

[abaddon]

If it had been addressed to the local bishop, wouldn't it have said "My Lord" or "Right Reverend Sir"?

But then I see it was "aimed at" the bishop. Perhaps it was made into a paper aeroplane. That might also explain why it is tricky to scan.

With this post, you have bestowed the gift of laughter upon my day.

I thank you and salute you, kind sir.

 

[sleepy_lioness]

I can imagine a busy GP writing a letter 'to whom it may concern' (which doesn't, of course, make it a 'letter of concern'). When I've had medical letters written for me (eg, for employment reasons) that's how they're addressed.

I'm not entirely certain how to address a bishop, and it will vary depending on his seniority and whether or not he is a member of the House of Lords.

According to Crockford's, the clerical directory, this is the style:

Bishops, Diocesan and Suffragan

The Right Reverend the Bishop of X, or The Right Reverend the Lord Bishop of X
Bishop, or more formally My Lord
The Bishop of X at the first mention, and the Bishop thereafter (see also note 1 to paragraph 4 above)

Notes

1 The use of ‘Lord’ before ‘Bishop’ is diminishing. It is a matter of individual preference whether it should be used.
2 The Bishop of London is a Privy Councillor, and has the style ‘The Right Reverend and Right Honourable the Lord Bishop of London’.
3 The Bishop of Meath and Kildare is styled ‘The Most Reverend’.

http://www.crockford.org.uk/standard.asp?id=116

Can't really blame the GP for going with 'to whom it may concern'.

 

[tuxcat]

I can imagine a busy GP writing a letter 'to whom it may concern' (which doesn't, of course, make it a 'letter of concern'). When I've had medical letters written for me (eg, for employment reasons) that's how they're addressed.

I'm not entirely certain how to address a bishop, and it will vary depending on his seniority and whether or not he is a member of the House of Lords.

According to Crockford's, the clerical directory, this is the style:




http://www.crockford.org.uk/standard.asp?id=116

Can't really blame the GP for going with 'to whom it may concern'.

You gotta point there. Ach well we'll see if flaccon comes back and see if she's willing to let us see the letter.

 

[abaddon]

I can imagine a busy GP writing a letter 'to whom it may concern' (which doesn't, of course, make it a 'letter of concern'). When I've had medical letters written for me (eg, for employment reasons) that's how they're addressed.

I'm not entirely certain how to address a bishop, and it will vary depending on his seniority and whether or not he is a member of the House of Lords.

According to Crockford's, the clerical directory, this is the style:




http://www.crockford.org.uk/standard.asp?id=116

Can't really blame the GP for going with 'to whom it may concern'.

I write references for former employees. It always starts with "To whom it may concern". Flaccon will not return nor will she post the GP letter. On some level, I hope, she is beginning to realise that her contentions are unsupported at best.

 

[sleepy_lioness]

I also wonder if it's fair to ask flaccon to post what is, after all, confidential medical information (though perhaps she should have thought of that before mentioning it as evidence). I think it's definitely unfair to ask, as somebody did upthread, that the GP should look at this thread if that means him/her weighing in. Of course s/he can't talk about his/her patient on a public messageboard.

 

[abaddon]

I also wonder if it's fair to ask flaccon to post what is, after all, confidential medical information (though perhaps she should have thought of that before mentioning it as evidence). I think it's definitely unfair to ask, as somebody did upthread, that the GP should look at this thread if that means him/her weighing in. Of course s/he can't talk about his/her patient on a public messageboard.

And that is fair enough. In all good faith, one could not ask a GP to violate that confidential relationship. But flaccon claims she has this letter which bolsters her claim. She is free to present it, and if she declines, we are free to dismiss it as any sort of evidence. I might just as well claim that I have a letter from my GP to my bishop stating that I am, in fact, the reincarnation of John the Baptist. What scrutiny would such a claim deserve?

 

[tuxcat]

And that is fair enough. In all good faith, one could not ask a GP to violate that confidential relationship. But flaccon claims she has this letter which bolsters her claim. She is free to present it, and if she declines, we are free to dismiss it as any sort of evidence. I might just as well claim that I have a letter from my GP to my bishop stating that I am, in fact, the reincarnation of John the Baptist. What scrutiny would such a claim deserve?

She could just blank/blur/pixellise the confidential bits and leave the non-confidential components. The Gimp is free and works on all platforms so it's a doddle.

 

[iknownothing]

I asked about that letter from her GP to the Bishop. In it he said that (flaccon) 'hears noise suggestive of words' and has been haunted by this for some time. He said this was more a spiritual matter than a medical one.

Hmm, falls short of what flaccon had described it as. Wonder if she would be willing to see that. (Seems to be a pattern of messages being imagined or misremembered? Spirits are talking to her through her recordings / the GP wrote a letter verifying the voices and urging the bishop to do something / alderbank's nephew heard the voices just like everyone else who's listened in person, eleven one.)

 

[Foolmewunz]

I think you'll need to go to Amalgamated Neutral Scanning of Burton on Armpit because with those little devilish spirits hanging out in the wires to flaccon's computers, they could easily alter the images. Hell, they changed old recordings on Scoobie's machine from miles away. Mucking about with images for a scanner should be child's play for them to change "batcrap crazy" to "experiencing visits from spirits".

 

[Pixel42]

I also wonder if it's fair to ask flaccon to post what is, after all, confidential medical information (though perhaps she should have thought of that before mentioning it as evidence). I think it's definitely unfair to ask, as somebody did upthread, that the GP should look at this thread if that means him/her weighing in. Of course s/he can't talk about his/her patient on a public messageboard.

I was suggesting the thread be brought to his attention so he could read it, not join in the conversation. I think it contains information that might be helpful to him. It's hard to be sure from what little flaccon has told us, but it sounds like he may not be familiar with pareidolia.