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tuxcat said:
Flaccon and Scrappy: Others on this forum (including me) are losing patience with red herrings, goalpost shifting and prevarication in general. I don't want to be rude but could you kindly get on with telling us what flaccon's spirits can do and how we can test it in the new thread.
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You're new here, aren't you!:D
 
Alderbank said:
You're new here, aren't you!:D
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It is completely ridiculous. I actually am getting a laugh out of it though, it's really funny watching those goalposts shift at an alarming rate, backwards pedalling like a crazed Tour de France cyclist in reverse and the wild goose scoot around the place whilst getting even more illusive.
 
scrappy said:
To Maurice I am willing to go for a pint with Alderbank next wed to introduce my self personally. And I will get the drinks in and show him my I.D .
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Relax. I'm not saying you're a sock. I'm saying you sound like flaccon did in her earlier posts. You avoid all the relevant questions and respond to the jokes and minor comments with claims that you won't back up in the protocol discussions.

I'm not Alderbank, but I don't see him travelling around England to discuss things over a pint unless there is talk of a protocol. The nonsense has to stop. Please start discussing the meat of the matter, in clear sentences, without cryptic nonsense.
 
Maurice Ledifficile said:
Relax. I'm not saying you're a sock. I'm saying you sound like flaccon did in her earlier posts. You avoid all the relevant questions and respond to the jokes and minor comments with claims that you won't back up in the protocol discussions.

I'm not Alderbank, but I don't see him travelling around England to discuss things over a pint unless there is talk of a protocol. The nonsense has to stop. Please start discussing the meat of the matter, in clear sentences, without cryptic nonsense.
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But cryptic gibberish is how woos speak - without it they reveal themselves to have nothing and they have built a shoddy hovel on a foundation of quicksand.
 
To Alderbank I will be in Chester next wed and if nothing else to prove I am not a sock puppet .
 
scrappy said:
To Maurice I am willing to go for a pint with Alderbank next wed to introduce my self personally. And I will get the drinks in and show him my I.D .
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scrappy, I'd love to go to the pub with you but I think our conversation at the bar would be very lopsided because you simply ignore most of the things I say.

Instead of buying me that pint how about just answering the questions I asked (second time round) in post #2321?
 
Alderbank said:
scrappy, I'd love to go to the pub with you but I think our conversation at the bar would be very lopsided because you simply ignore most of the things I say.

Instead of buying me that pint how about just answering the questions I asked (second time round) in post #2321?
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Good luck with that one mate - I predict it'll be a rehash of the usual nonsense about how it can't possibly be pareidolia because flaccon and/or scrappy has a fantastic brain in the entire history of humanity going back millions of years and cannot possibly see or hear sound in random noise!
 
scrappy said:
Tuxcat I keep answering it . Full sentences in her fathers voice , shouting out names of family members can not be paredolia .
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Of course they can. Once you've convinced yourself that what you're hearing is spirit voices your imagination goes into overdrive.

Coupled with twenty years of demonic attacks towards her children , her self and her partner clearly spells it is not paredolia . What ever protects her these days is also not paredolia .
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The fact that flaccon has a history of attributing experiences to the supernatural makes pareidolia a more, not less, likely explanation of her current experiences.
 
My feeling is that flaccon has realised that it's pareidolia and is simply trying to divert attention away from it given that it's emotionally comforting to have your dad looking after you. Flaccon simply doesn't want that taken away from her because it's a security blanket.
 
scrappy said:
Tracy has bin trying since last night to get 5 mins on line without success. If you forward those silent recordings to my inbox , It may be possible to achieve the same results from my computer. I will PM you my email addy .
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If that was meant for me, sure. No PM yet, though.
 
Having just read flaccon's web page 'Spirits In The Blood', it's clear she has an unusually fertile imagination. Of the images posted there that claim to be of faces or people, I see only the single distorted face in the scrunched up paper. The rest are just blurs and smears - I can't see faces in them even given the feature labels.

So, for me, no voices in the recordings, and no faces in all but one of around 25 images.

Scrappy appears to be standing in for flaccon now, and whether a sockpuppet or not, is following the same frustrating path of nonsense and evasion.

My question to scrappy at this point is "What is your purpose in posting here, what do you hope to achieve?"

If the purpose is to prove to skeptics that there really are spirits talking to you and flaccon, you'll only achieve that by following the suggested protocols.
 
dlorde said:
Thanks for your concern! ;)

I speed-read through the really slow, tedious bits to avoid getting bogged down.

What fascinates me is the surprising consistency in the development of these 'paranormal abilities' threads - part of what keeps me interested is the faint hope that something different will happen this time. The unexpected visit to flaccon, though fairly predictable in its outcome, was one of those differences; but for the most part, the progression followed the usual theme of strong claims and willingness to be tested becoming weaker and vaguer the sharper the focus of skeptical attention on them. The psychology of the claimant posts is also oddly consistent from thread to thread. The evasiveness, distractions, and diversions when faced with unambiguous questions, the almost willful inability to grasp the requirements and implications of a controlled test, etc.

A train wreck The opportunity to catch a glimpse of the thought processes of a mind that seems to work so differently is strangely compelling :)
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Fixed it.
 
Alderbank how else can I prove myself if not go for a pint . If you know of any other way to prove my self I shall do . I have replied to your questions , please check .
 
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