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Limbaugh - I want Obama to fail.

It's pretty simple. Rush believes that Obama's ideas would harm the country, so he believes it's better if he doesn't get to implement them; if Obama succeeds in getting his ideas executed, he'll harm the country, which is bad and should be avoided. To want good things for the country is to want bad political ideas to fail and good ones to prevail. In other words, it's politics, and they're opponents, and NO political opponents EVER want each other to succeed, whether they claim to or not.

To present it as anything else is simply to lie... which isn't particularly new, given the segment of the population who never say anything about Rush that isn't a lie.

I understand. But it would have been less confusing if Rush had simple just said " I think Obama's ideas are bad for the country and should not be implimented."

That is a bit different than saying the he hopes Obama fails. Since Obama is president now and if his ideas that get implimented fails means that bad things will happen to the country because of the failure.


And I disagree that to want good things for the country is to want bad ideas to fail. To want good things for the country is to prevent bad ideas from being implimented in the first place. A bad idea can only be called a failed idea if it is implimented and then fails, other wise it is just a bad idea.


And this adversarial attitude that Republicans and Democrates have with each other is simply juvenile. This country needs leadership and cooperation not childish bickering.

The more infighting that goes on, the deeper the country slips into the crapper.
 
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I understand. But it would have been less confusing if Rush had simple just said " I think Obama's ideas are bad for the country and should not be implimented."

Dude! That is almost exactly, word-for-word, what he did say. He then said it again, and again, and again using different words, in different ways. Someone, somewhere finially found a way he said it they could attack. and here we are.
 
Well good for Rush. If Obama has bad ideas then they should be prevented from being implimented.

But the "I hope Obama fails" statement was badly worded. It apparently gave his detractors fuel for the fire.

But then again any publicity in the entertainment industry is good publicity. That may just have what he wanted.
 
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Although I think what Limbaugh said may have been taken at least a little out of context, I certainly wouldn't put it past him to put his own interests over that of his country. So if Obama should turn out to be a failure, if the economy does not recover during his first term or gets a lot worse, Rush could then say "hey, so who told you that Obama would be bad for this country?".

One interpretation of what Limbaugh said is not unlike those liberals who wished that Bush failed in implementing his right-wing agenda: tax cuts, privatizing social security, public funding of faith-based groups, an anti-science agenda, etc. But did these same liberals hope that Bush would be disastrous for the country, so in the end they could say "ha! told you so!". For the most part, I don't think so. By the same token, I don't think most conservatives want Obama to be a failure to the point that the country becomes worse off. On the other hand they want him to fail in pushing a left-wing agenda. I don't think most people put their ideology over their country's interest, unless their career is based on selling their ideology. Leaders of political extremist movements love economic catastrophes, since this is the environment in which they thrive; look at the Nazis, Bolsheviks and communists and how they grew in influence as their economies collapsed and/or they became exhausted due to war.

Having listened to Rush a bunch of times and knowing what he is about(and disagreeing with him at least 75% of the time), does lead me to suspect that he may in fact want not just Obama to fail but for America to fail while Obama is in power, for the economy to collapse so completely so that he can point his big fat finger at Obama and the anti-American liberals and tell everyone how their left-wing agenda is destroying America(never mind that the economic collapse started under Bush). This would be a huge credibility boost for Rush and his fellow right-wing talking-heads, and they could more than make up for whatever credibility they lost while being apologists for Bush. Rush could become more mainstream and may be in the position to push his far right agenda, along with the Republicans; his power and influence among the Republicans may grow in fact, and while he may not seek to be the "king" of the Republicans, he is more than satisfied being king-maker.

I could be wrong though, and maybe Rush only wants Obama to fail in pushing his left-wing agenda; I can't read Rush's mind, but should Obama be a success, this doesn't exactly help Rush's career, in my opinion. Even if Rush doesn't truly want Obama to fail, or for the economy to get worse it's not like Rush won't fully exploit the situation should that happen.

I did not vote for Obama but I certainly hope he succeeds, and if McCain(I didn't vote for him either) had won, I would have hoped the same for him.
 
Merged with thread from Social Issues forum.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky
 
Nothing unusual that Stewart feeds his predominately liberal audience red meat from FOX News. Will Stewart be as biting with his political humor targeting the Obama administration as he was with Bush's? Will he also target MSNBC's continued love affair with Obama? Will JREFer libs find such political humor amusing? Time will tell.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=115553&title=caroline-kennedy

Gee, I don't know.. I thought this was pretty funny.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=210922&title=MSNBC-Replaces-Fox-News
 

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