Libertarian Socialism: An Oxymoron?

[NWO Sentryman]

Then you're demonstrably not familiar with the most prevalent variants of socialism.

I meant "libertarian Socialism", not socialism.

 

[Cleon]

I meant "libertarian Socialism", not socialism.

So libertarian socialism is prevalent among libertarian socialists.

Thank you for that astounding revelation, I'm not sure I could've lived without that insightful observation.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

So libertarian socialism is prevalent among libertarian socialists.

Thank you for that astounding revelation, I'm not sure I could've lived without that insightful observation.

I meant in the General Public, not Among libertarian socialists.

 

[Cleon]

I meant in the General Public, not Among libertarian socialists.

If you seriously think that libertarian socialism is popular among the general public, the vast majority of whom have never heard of the idea, then I can only ask you to share whatever the hell it is you're smoking.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

If you seriously think that libertarian socialism is popular among the general public, the vast majority of whom have never heard of the idea, then I can only ask you to share whatever the hell it is you're smoking.

I did not make myself clear

I meant that Libertarian Socialism is only popular among chomskyites.

 

[drkitten]

I meant that Libertarian Socialism is only popular among chomskyites.

... and we're back to the "then you don't know enough all the fringe beliefs to make authoritative statements about socialism" point in the discussion cycle.

 

[drkitten]

So libertarian socialism is prevalent among libertarian socialists.

Thank you for that astounding revelation, I'm not sure I could've lived without that insightful observation.

Hmmm..... I wonder what color the North American black bear is, and on which continent it is found.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Let's kill the conversation herer. It will only end up in circular discussion.

 

[GreyICE]

Let's kill the conversation herer. It will only end up in circular discussion.

Of how very little you know about socialism? That's a bit circular, indeed.

*NWO posts something that shows he knows nothing about socialism.*
*People point out his lack of knowledge, describe socialism, etc.*
*NWO posts something that shows he knows nothing about socialism.*

Repeat ad nauseum.

Maybe reading the posts and trying to understand them would help you?

 

[Cleon]

Let's kill the conversation herer. It will only end up in circular discussion.

Circular? At this point it's more like a Mobius strip.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Of how very little you know about socialism? That's a bit circular, indeed.

*NWO posts something that shows he knows nothing about socialism.*
*People point out his lack of knowledge, describe socialism, etc.*
*NWO posts something that shows he knows nothing about socialism.*

Repeat ad nauseum.

Maybe reading the posts and trying to understand them would help you?

GreyICE, there are many flavours of Socialism i now understand that. But one flavour in particular, Marxism, spawned the most evil tyrants in history (Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot)

 

[mumblethrax]

I meant that Libertarian Socialism is only popular among chomskyites.

Keep going, you'll eventually say something true and non-tautological just by sheer chance.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Keep going, you'll eventually say something true and non-tautological just by sheer chance.

What i meant was libertarian Socialism was not popular among the gneeral public.

 

[mumblethrax]

Nonsensical doesn't count as true, I'm afraid.

 

[Kiosk]

If you mean Chomskyites, then yes it is a prevalent belief.

"Chomskyite" could refer to someone who agrees (broadly) with Chomsky's critique of mainstream media, or US foreign policy. In that sense, "Chomskyite" is quite a commonly-held position. He is indeed an influential figure on the Left - when discussing things he doesn't like.

But "Chomskyite" could also (and in your example, I think does) refer to someone who agrees (quite specifically) with Chomsky's prescription for a near-perfect world. That is, a full-on libertarian socialist. Not so common.

Anyway, from your posts on this thread, I'd say your problem is a fundamental misunderstanding of the fact that while communism is socialism, socialism is not necessarily communism. The Left is not some monolith: indeed, it is notoriously sectarian. A lib-soc or a social democrat have no more in common with Stalin than an "Atlas Shrugged" objectivist has with Hitler.

 

[Puppycow]

Puppycow:


So you've read the Wikipedia article and concluded that libertarian socialism has no mechanism -- except polite conversation -- to deal with demonic marauders. This says more about you than it does about the doctrine (supposedly) under discussion, if we dare call it a discussion.

Yes. That's what it seems like. Do you know how they deal with demonic marauders? I'm curious.