Lessons to be learned from the Kavanaugh Hearing

[Lurch]

Maybe Trump has a point about the media not doing the country any favors.

For Trump, it's rather like, "L'etat, c'est moi."

 

[Thermal]

Maybe Trump has a point about the media not doing the country any favors.

There is a point to be made about media selling itself out and becoming counterproductive. That's not what the President says. He dislikes them, you know, reporting on things that don't suit his purposes

 

[ponderingturtle]

I never said it was profound. That doesn't mean it isn't true. But it's telling that you seem to object to my response to Craig4, but Craig4's post somehow doesn't merit any attention.

Yep it is like calling nazis deplorable or anything other than the fine republicans they are. Even the republican leaders view nazis as republicans. After all austrians nazis are just republicans here.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/413601-steve-king-members-of-nazi-linked-party-in-austria-would-be-republicans-if

Yet people keep calling nazis nazis. That should not be allowed.

 

[ponderingturtle]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...ided-voters/9EjNHVkt99b4re2VAB8ziI/story.html

Exactly you can't badmouth all those nice nazis in the heartland of america.

 

[tyr_13]

The media is a money making organization. They reduce things to high impact statements and flashy visuals so they can get the ratings they need.

It is this same media that enabled Trump to get where he is.

Do you have any proposals for reform?

All those Nationalists GOP supporters sure love capitalism until it leads to a result they're against.

 

[quadraginta]

Yep it is like calling nazis deplorable or anything other than the fine republicans they are. Even the republican leaders view nazis as republicans. After all austrians nazis are just republicans here.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/413601-steve-king-members-of-nazi-linked-party-in-austria-would-be-republicans-if

Yet people keep calling nazis nazis. That should not be allowed.

Which goes a long way to explaining the conservative apologists who dismiss comparisons to Nazis by explaining that they aren't "real" Nazis.

If you bring real Nazis into this country they are just lost in the background noise of what the GOP has become.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Lessons learned from the Kavanaugh hearings? All Left Wing Atheists are now praying to a God they don't believe in for Ruth Bader Ginsburg's good health and longevity.
Chris B.

 

[LSSBB]

Lessons learned from the Kavanaugh hearings? All Left Wing Atheists are now praying to a God they don't believe in for Ruth Bader Ginsburg's good health and longevity.
Chris B.

Not all Christians believe life begins at conception, and thus they are not opposed to abortion. . And many Leftists are Christians.

 

[acbytesla]

Lessons learned from the Kavanaugh hearings? All Left Wing Atheists are now praying to a God they don't believe in for Ruth Bader Ginsburg's good health and longevity.
Chris B.

Sorry Chris. Atheists don't pray to God...any God. But I certainly hope she sits on the court for another twenty years and Kavanaugh has a cardiac arrest soon.

 

[Craig4]

This is how you get more Trump.

If Trump supporters are a hated other, it may keep the lesser of two evil voters from giving Trump their support. People who hold their nose and vote, likely don't want to be associated with the scum at the rallies. We are talking about razor thin margins in three key states. I see nothing wrong with making millions a hated, reviled group if it brings over 200,000 swing voters in the Rust Belt.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

BREAKING: This is quite a read. Woman who claimed Justice Kavanaugh raped her now admits they’ve never even met. She’s been referred to DOJ/FBI for investigation and could soon be in serious legal trouble.

-- Shannon Bream (Fox News) Nov 2, 2018

Criminal Referral:

"The accuser alleged that Justice Kavanaugh and a friend had raped her 'several times each' in the backseat of a car.

"Under questioning by Committee investigators, she confessed that (1) she 'just wanted to get attention'; (2) 'it was a tactic'; and (3) 'that was just a ploy'.

"Committee investigators were able to determine that she: (1) is a left-wing activist; (2) is decades older than Judge Kavanaugh; and (3) lives in neither the Washington DC area nor California, but in Kentucky."

-- Senator Chuck Grassley (Nov 2, 2018)​

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Fourth Kavanaugh accuser referred to FBI after recanting

Just days before the midterm elections, Sen. Chuck Grassley asked the federal authorities on Friday to investigate another person he says made false claims against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Grassley, in a letter to the Justice Department and FBI, said a woman by the name of Judy Munro-Leighton took responsibility for authoring an anonymous letter that made allegations that Kavanaugh and a friend raped her. After she was tracked down and interviewed by Senate investigators, the woman recanted and said she had never met Kavanaugh.

Grassley has thus far asked federal authorities to investigate: Julie Swetnick, who accused Kavanaugh of drunken behavior and sexual assault; Michael Avenatti, her lawyer who also represented porn star Stormy Daniels; and a man, who was never publicly identified but recanted an allegation he'd made against Kavanaugh.

-- USA Today (Nov 2, 2018)

"Thankfully, the law prohibits false statements to Congress and obstruction of congressional committee investigations. For the law to work, we can’t just brush aside potential violations. I don’t take lightly making a referral of this nature, but ignoring this behavior will just invite more of it in the future.”

-- Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley

 

[Slings and Arrows]

A vicious accuser of Justice Kavanaugh has just admitted that she was lying, her story was totally made up, or FAKE! Can you imagine if he didn’t become a Justice of the Supreme Court because of her disgusting False Statements. What about the others? Where are the Dems on this?

-- President Donald J. Trump (Nov 3, 2018)

"Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed, and supported."

-- Hillary Clinton (Nov 22, 2015)

 

[The Big Dog]

That is four people with criminal referrals for making false claims against Kavanaugh, five if you count the person who claims she did not read the affidavit Avenatti faked up for her to sign.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

That is four people with criminal referrals for making false claims against Kavanaugh, five if you count the person who claims she did not read the affidavit Avenatti faked up for her to sign.

Everyone who accused Kavanaugh of actual rape has since recanted their stories.

Meanwhile, the person who originally instigated this whole farce -- two front doors and one beer Christine Blasey Fraud -- has pocketed over $840,000 from her GoFundMe campaign.

And take notice of how the liberals who were in a near state of hysteria over the word "boofing" have suddenly gone silent.

 

[Lambchops]

Everyone who accused Kavanaugh of actual rape has since recanted their stories.

Meanwhile, the person who originally instigated this whole farce -- two front doors and one beer Christine Blasey Fraud -- has pocketed over $840,000 from her GoFundMe campaign.

And take notice of how the liberals who were in a near state of hysteria over the word "boofing" have suddenly gone silent.

JaWohl.

 

[Roboramma]

"Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed, and supported."

-- Hillary Clinton (Nov 22, 2015)

Do you think there's a problem with that statement? "We should believe everyone who is telling the truth" is pretty banal but it doesn't mean we should believe liars.

Of course we can't always tell the difference between actual survivors of sexual assault and people who lie about it, which means that in practice we don't always manage to believe all the people who are telling the truth*, but that's certainly a goal to strive for.

*Because sometimes the evidence isn't clear, and at some point, once we've done all we can to improve our ability to assess that evidence, whatever we do to try to make sure we avoid false negatives will lead to more false positives.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Do you think there's a problem with that statement?

"The 'Believe Women' movement started with a commendable goal — to take women seriously when they charge that they’ve been sexually harassed.

"What began as a drive to respect women’s claims increasingly insists that all charges leveled at all times against all men must be believed.

"And if you don’t believe it has gone that far, then you weren’t listening to the protesters during the Kavanaugh fracas, and you probably haven’t spent time on a college campus."

-- Trib Live (Oct 11, 2018)

 

[Slings and Arrows]

President Trump at a campaign rally in Montana:

"She lied about the story about rape -- about rape, she lied. It was a made-up story. She made up the story. It was a lie. It was a total lie. It was fake. You know what fake means? It was fake. And we're supposed to sit back and take it."

-- President Donald J. Trump (Nov 3, 2018)​

Explanation for her false rape accusation:

"That was just a ploy, it was a tactic."

-- Ms. Judy Munro-Leighton (left-wing activist)​

 

[phiwum]

President Trump at a campaign rally in Montana:

"She lied about the story about rape -- about rape, she lied. It was a made-up story. She made up the story. It was a lie. It was a total lie. It was fake. You know what fake means? It was fake. And we're supposed to sit back and take it."

-- President Donald J. Trump (Nov 3, 2018)​

Explanation for the false rape accusation:

"That was just a ploy, it was a tactic."

-- Ms. Judy Munro-Leighton (left-wing activist)​

There is no excuse for lying about rape.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the credibility of Blasey-Ford's testimony. That stands or falls on its own.