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Leave Nancy Alone!

BobTheCoward said:
Most likely, almost anyone. The animosity towards her seems to be her effectiveness in enacting a liberal agenda and stymie a conservative one. If so, then she is good at the job.
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Nancy Pelosi's job is to get the House Democrats to work together. A task that is roughly equivalent to herding cats.
 
Dumb All Over, why not give evidence of the claims in your OP. Or are you just parroting the republican line of the day?
 
Dumb All Over said:
The_Animus, if you believe Nancy should remain and continue as House Minority Leader, then you and I are in complete agreement.
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As far as I can tell, she is an election advantage for republicans because she is good at implementing her liberal agenda and that makes a good target. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

If true, then it behooves Democrats to keep her. This is like trying to say the best way for the cavaliers to solve the problem of LeBron James being double teamed is to trade LeBron James.
 
Dumb All Over said:
I think they worry whether the Speaker will be a Democrat or a Republican and often vote accordingly in their local districts.
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I doubt this is a significant effect at all. If it were, it seems to me that incumbency wouldn't be such a significant benefit in elections.

As well, rationally speaking, it makes very little sense. I'm going to vote for X in the hopes that he and enough others in his party are elected to change the speakership. Hell, I'm impotent enough when voting, but this is second-order impotence.
 
BobTheCoward said:
If you are going to be purposely obtuse about your own thread premise I will not engage in a conversation with you.
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I can try. Maybe the main point is that she is like the Sarah Palin of the left - a confused, probably prescription medication abusing idiot, or at least that is how she appears to me a lot of the time.

She makes some outrageously inane comments - she seems like she has a few screws loose. I think, at times, she makes her party look bad.

That's how I personally feel about her, no clue as what the OP thinks. I don't like her politics or anything else about her.
 
phiwum said:
I doubt this is a significant effect at all. If it were, it seems to me that incumbency wouldn't be such a significant benefit in elections.

As well, rationally speaking, it makes very little sense. I'm going to vote for X in the hopes that he and enough others in his party are elected to change the speakership. Hell, I'm impotent enough when voting, but this is second-order impotence.
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And, let's be honest, the GOP's ad designers would attack any democratic leader anyway. It's kind of their job to do that. They'd be derelict if they didn't - just as democratic message crafters would be if they didn't attack republican leaders. I simply see no gain to swapping out a practical and effective leader like Pelosi - except if the democrats wish to appeal to people who are enraged that a woman is among leadership.

Which, given how many of them ran away from the first black president, and directly into a buzzsaw in 2010, 2014, and 2016, I wouldn't doubt...
 
mgidm86 said:
I can try. Maybe the main point is that she is like the Sarah Palin of the left - a confused, probably prescription medication abusing idiot, or at least that is how she appears to me a lot of the time.

She makes some outrageously inane comments - she seems like she has a few screws loose. I think, at times, she makes her party look bad.

That's how I personally feel about her, no clue as what the OP thinks. I don't like her politics or anything else about her.
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Wow, you think Pelosi is like Palin? Talk about buying the GOP lies.

There is a reason the GOP has targeted Pelosi, she is an effective leader. If she wasn't, why would they be targeting her?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Wow, you think Pelosi is like Palin? Talk about buying the GOP lies.

There is a reason the GOP has targeted Pelosi, she is an effective leader. If she wasn't, why would they be targeting her?
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Honestly, Palin was McCain's worst mistake. She speaks in pure gibberish, her accent and voice are annoying, and she's a pure shill with no regard for people anywhere. And at this point, she's unimportant.
 
Mumbles said:
Honestly, Palin was McCain's worst mistake. She speaks in pure gibberish, her accent and voice are annoying, and she's a pure shill with no regard for people anywhere.
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You're right, she should have been Trump's VP pick.
 
TragicMonkey said:
You're right, she should have been Trump's VP pick.
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To be fair, Pence's hostility towards LGBT folks fits in just as well as Palin's nonsense..

ETA: But really, I'd havd taken McCain much more seriously had it not been or Palin. I'm glad she's a has-been, but I'm just flat out ready to fight Toupee Fiasco...

I rhink McCain would be a *decent*, though not great, president. But that's a contrafactual, so I understand if y'all disagree ...
 
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phiwum said:
I doubt this is a significant effect at all. If it were, it seems to me that incumbency wouldn't be such a significant benefit in elections.

As well, rationally speaking, it makes very little sense. I'm going to vote for X in the hopes that he and enough others in his party are elected to change the speakership. Hell, I'm impotent enough when voting, but this is second-order impotence.
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^ Fair criticism. ^
 
Dumb All Over said:
The_Animus, I offered evidence to support the claims in the OP. The supporting evidence is in the OP. Did you read the OP?
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No you didn't.

No it isn't.

Yes I did.

1/10, no cracker for Polly

But you're welcome to quote whatever specific part you believe does so from that article.
 
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