Leave Nancy Alone!

[Dumb All Over]

Republicans love her. When it comes to maintaining and increasing the Republican ranks in the House, she does their work for them. Please, Dems, please don't remove her from her leadership role. If you do, you might disappoint the President.

 

[fuelair]

Republicans love her. When it comes to maintaining and increasing the Republican ranks in the House, she does their work for them. Please, Dems, please don't remove her from her leadership role. If you do, you might disappoint the President.

He'd feel so much more honest if he woke up in a long used outhouse with no visible holes or escape route.

 

[mgidm86]

He'd feel so much more honest if he woke up in a long used outhouse with no visible holes or escape route.

He is being honest. He believes her presence helps Republicans and hurts Democrats.

 

[fuelair]

He is being honest. He believes her presence helps Republicans and hurts Democrats.

Might be true, but she is, at least an honest person working for good people.
While Trumpf works only for Trumpf.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

My take: As usual the Democrats don't understand messaging. What they are doing is reacting, saying Pelosi's been a great leader (and she has). Then you have Sanders taking advantage of the situation with his own message, the Democrats are losers, of course he lost the primary and acts like he won. And there's some Congressman vying for Pelosi's job saying she should be replaced.

IGNORANT!

What narrative we should be pushing is that the reason the GOP is demonizing Pelosi is because she's a threat to them. It is so damn obvious, why can't the Democrats figure out messaging? We're being ruled by the incompetent minority because they understand messaging (and cheating, but that's a topic for another thread), and we don't.

 

[theprestige]

Pelosi has been a great leader?

 

[Cleon]

He is being honest. He believes her presence helps Republicans and hurts Democrats.

Given the outcome of the last few elections, he's not wrong.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Given the outcome of the last few elections, he's not wrong.

It does as long as the Democrats aren't able to effectively message back, yes it does hurt.

 

[Giz]

Given the outcome of the last few elections, he's not wrong.

Well, it's probably location specific: fine in California, poison in Georgia. I've no idea if it averages out positive or negative on a national scale.

 

[Brainster]

I don' think you can really trust either side to tell us the truth about whom they want to be facing on the other side. I remember a friend telling me prior to the 2006 midterms that the GOP's ace in the hole was the phrase, "Speaker Pelosi." Didn't work then.

 

[Brainster]

Given the outcome of the last few elections, he's not wrong.

I don't think a lot of voters worry about who will be the speaker of the house if they vote D or R in their local congressional election. It's hardly Pelosi's fault that the Democrats nominated Hillary Clinton in 2016, or that the Democrat's brand was so unpopular in 2014 and 2010.

You can argue that she was wrong to focus so much time and energy on the special elections this year, but of course how unpopular would she be among the base if she had not? And it was a chance to allow them to let off some of the steam that has been building since last November.

I don't like her, don't like seeing her on TV or on the web, but I don't see Pelosi as a problem for the party the way (say) Wasserman-Schultz was.

 

[Kestrel]

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[Dumb All Over]

I don't think a lot of voters worry about who will be the speaker of the house if they vote D or R in their local congressional election.

I think they worry whether the Speaker will be a Democrat or a Republican and often vote accordingly in their local districts.

I don't like her, don't like seeing her on TV or on the web, but I don't see Pelosi as a problem for the party the way (say) Wasserman-Schultz was.

Indeed. She is a problem for the party in a completely different way.

 

[Dumb All Over]

I don' think you can really trust either side to tell us the truth about whom they want to be facing on the other side.

My honest take is I hope the Dems leave Pelosi right where she is. If they do replace her, I hope they elect Maxine Waters to the leadership position.

 

[fuelair]

My take: As usual the Democrats don't understand messaging. What they are doing is reacting, saying Pelosi's been a great leader (and she has). Then you have Sanders taking advantage of the situation with his own message, the Democrats are losers, of course he lost the primary and acts like he won. And there's some Congressman vying for Pelosi's job saying she should be replaced.

IGNORANT!

What narrative we should be pushing is that the reason the GOP is demonizing Pelosi is because she's a threat to them. It is so damn obvious, why can't the Democrats figure out messaging? We're being ruled by the incompetent minority because they understand messaging (and cheating, but that's a topic for another thread), and we don't.

Bill Maher hit this hard (again) last night!!!!!!!!

 

[apathoid]

My honest take is I hope the Dems leave Pelosi right where she is. If they do replace her, I hope they elect Maxine Waters to the leadership position.

I wonder if she'll be able to get that hero of hers, Damien "Football" Williams, out of prison and back on her staff again.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Republicans love her. When it comes to maintaining and increasing the Republican ranks in the House, she does their work for them. Please, Dems, please don't remove her from her leadership role. If you do, you might disappoint the President.

I don't understand this. The anger stems from her ability to affect the agenda. If she was ineffectual, there would not be as much animosity. So is the idea that Democrats should adopt worse leadership?

 

[Dumb All Over]

I don't understand this. The anger stems from her ability to affect the agenda. If she was ineffectual, there would not be as much animosity. So is the idea that Democrats should adopt worse leadership?

Who is worse than Nancy?

 

[Mumbles]

Pelosi has been a great leader?

Very much so. As majority leader, she ushered in a wide variety of good (and popular) legislation, and under Toupee Fiasco she's been very effective in keeping the democrats in the House in line. And the simple truth is, she's House Minority leader, not the head of the DNC - she has some say in how the Dems are run as an organization, but getting every individual elected, allocating funds, and the like, are not her job.

If people are so biased that they'll vote against their supposed preferences because of women and minorities...well, it's time for them to get over it. And as I've said, since the obvious arguments aren't effective, maybe self-inflicted suffering will wake them up - which is why I hope people like that suffer the most under this half-done administration.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Who is worse than Nancy?

Most likely, almost anyone. The animosity towards her seems to be her effectiveness in enacting a liberal agenda and stymie a conservative one. If so, then she is good at the job.