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Mark Twain called the Book Of Mormon ''chloroform in print''. He was right. I tried to read it and it is the most boring work of fiction ever written.
 
Janadele said:
Rand, That is the answer, whether anyone likes it or not.
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It's not an answer. It doesn't explain anything. It doesn't answer the contradictions nor address the biology. It's really weak ad hoc rationalization. Thankfully biologists, sociologists, psychologists, psychiatrists and therapists don't accept your answer. Thankfully we can actually help people live happy fulfilled lives.

That is the truth. Further elaboration could only be speculation.

Our Heavenly Father does not reveal all to us, and to those who reject what He has revealed, even less is given.
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What good does this do for the people born hermaphrodite or with an ambiguous gender, or any number of other gender disorders?

Tina: I fell in love with a man and I'd like to marry him.
God: Though you have the genitals of a woman you were born with XY chromosomes and no uterus. You are a man. Sorry. No intimacy for you.
 
I wonder why this Heavenly Father gives children cancer? If he was a real father he would have been up before a court for child abuse.
 
Janadele said:
Rand, That is the answer, whether anyone likes it or not. That is the truth. Further elaboration could only be speculation.

Our Heavenly Father does not reveal all to us, and to those who reject what He has revealed, even less is given.
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So your answer is "I can't explain it any better, and if my explanation doesn't make sense it's your fault."

I don't mean that as a dismissal--I'm trying to show you how you sound to others. This rhetorical technique may work well enough for those who agree with you, but as a means of convincing others it sounds like nothing more than your run-of-the-mill post-hoc justifications to cover why you can't explain something.

Again, your communication technique IS NOT WORKING. I put that in caps because it's the important part here.

The Eternal Gospel has existed since the beginning of time.
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Where?

That's not sarcastic, by the way. I know that decapods existed since the Mesozoic because I can point you to rock units of Mesozoic age that contain decapods. I found them myself. So I can substantiate my claim. Can you do the same? Is there some place where the Eternal Gospel could be located in, say, 5,000 BC?
 
ShadowSot said:
What do you expect from a religion that came about before the scientific study of human sexuality?
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More to the point a religion that thinks dinosaur bones came from another planet (I wish I was making that up).

LDS Church Institute instructors teach that fossilized dinosaur bones are from creatures that lived on other worlds that were destroyed in the creation of the earth.
 
Nay_Sayer said:
More to the point a religion that thinks dinosaur bones came from another planet (I wish I was making that up).

LDS Church Institute instructors teach that fossilized dinosaur bones are from creatures that lived on other worlds that were destroyed in the creation of the earth.
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I....I don't know how to take that. That's just....wow. Can you elaborate? Can a member of the LDS here elaborate? Please? I'm very curious about this. I blame it on the fact that my wife is attempting to get me drunk.
 
Janadele said:
The Eternal Gospel has existed since the beginning of time.
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But it didn't get promulgated til Joe Smith found the golden plates?

Muslims think the same thing about the Koran.

Joe had Moroni Mohammed had Gabriel.
 
Dinwar said:
So your answer is "I can't explain it any better, and if my explanation doesn't make sense it's your fault."

I don't mean that as a dismissal--I'm trying to show you how you sound to others. This rhetorical technique may work well enough for those who agree with you, but as a means of convincing others it sounds like nothing more than your run-of-the-mill post-hoc justifications to cover why you can't explain something.

Again, your communication technique IS NOT WORKING. I put that in caps because it's the important part here.

Where?

That's not sarcastic, by the way. I know that decapods existed since the Mesozoic because I can point you to rock units of Mesozoic age that contain decapods. I found them myself. So I can substantiate my claim. Can you do the same? Is there some place where the Eternal Gospel could be located in, say, 5,000 BC?
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In discussion on another forum, Janadelle showed herself to be unable or unwilling to attempt to provide answers that were in any way her opinion.
All that she'll provide is information available directly from the LDS website.
Hermaphrodites are not addressed on the site, so she has no answer.
 
This is not the place to preach. Janadelle will find no gullible recruits here.
 
ShadowSot said:
I don't think that's what she's going for. Seems instead she prefers to go for the martyr complex.
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Merthyr is Welsh for martyr. Merthyr Tydfil is Mormon country. I knew quite a few of the tribe when I lived there. Nice people, but deluded. The biggest problem that the Mormons in Merthyr Tydfil had in the 1960's was preventing certain elements of the local population from stripping the gold leaf from the Mormon church spire.
 
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ShadowSot said:
In discussion on another forum, Janadelle showed herself to be unable or unwilling to attempt to provide answers that were in any way her opinion.
All that she'll provide is information available directly from the LDS website.
Hermaphrodites are not addressed on the site, so she has no answer.
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Plus those websites are limited in their ability to address issues. It's obvious that apologetics for something like hermaphroditism just leads to more and more unanswerable questions.

I was told over and over to put my doubts on a shelf and trust in god. Why did god give me a brain if he wanted me to be a brain dead sheep?
 
RandFan said:
I was told over and over to put my doubts on a shelf and trust in god. Why did god give me a brain if he wanted me to be a brain dead sheep?
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That thought has often struck me too. I've been told that I will burn in hell because I am an atheist. But if god made my brain then he made me an atheist so why would he/she/it punish me?
 
RandFan said:
Plus those websites are limited in their ability to address issues. It's obvious that apologetics for something like hermaphroditism just leads to more and more unanswerable questions.

I was told over and over to put my doubts on a shelf and trust in god. Why did god give me a brain if he wanted me to be a brain dead sheep?
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The point of being given free will is to use it only to obey, or something.
See, forcing someone to follow your will is much grander than just using robots.
 
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