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Whatever the citation was it wouldn't pull up for me, if it has been debunked please share. Anyway, my point was those floating blobs are a fairly common thing seen in the Appalachians, at least more common than bigfoot sightings. I assume it's some kind of ball lightening.
 
Jodie said:
It sounds like the lights on Brown Mountain in North Carolina. They move like that, no one knows what they are but it's probably something natural since they have been seen there for centuries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gftfwM9_J0g
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Those did not look like they were lights in the distance at all to me.

They looked very much like reflections/artifacts of some sort.

They never looked like real lights to me.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Those did not look like they were lights in the distance at all to me.

They looked very much like reflections/artifacts of some sort.

They never looked like real lights to me.
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The only ones I've seen on Brown Mountain are the ones in that video. The two I saw in my lifetime looked like the blobs that NL described. Maybe they look different from a distance, what was in the video reminded me of the way static electricity looks.
 
Jodie said:
The only ones I've seen on Brown Mountain are the ones in that video. The two I saw in my lifetime looked like the blobs that NL described. Maybe they look different from a distance, what was in the video reminded me of the way static electricity looks.
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NL was looking through a thermal imaging camera. Hence the blob. Have you seen what images look like though one? Also, I've noticed you tend to grasp at the most extravagant possible explanations before you look at the most simple ones. (or without completely understanding what you are addressing) Quartz, really? Anyhow, nuff said.
 
River said:
Have you seen what images look like though one?
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I'm not allowed to look through Dad's anymore. :( We were playing around with one my brother-in-law bought and Dad sort of...acquired...and a car came down the road. Dad didn't realize that we'd all said "Car coming!" and looked straight at the headlights. ALL he saw for about ten minutes (long enough, fortunately, for him to calm down--the machete was hanging in the garage next to him) was greenish wiggly blobs!

Quartz, really?
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Quartz can give off light. Thermoluminescence works by using heat to re-set crystal defects, giving off light; the amount of light is proportional to the number of defects (caused by background radiation). Don't ask me the heavy physics; I tried to learn it and got a headache for a week. You can also do the same thing with light, which gives me an even worse one. The thing is, it's VERY little light, and requires some pretty sophisticated equipment. These are common dating techniques, in that they can be used to test C14 dates (they cover the same range, but use different principles).

All of that said, free-floating blobs of light are pretty much impossible. And any quartz at the surface for any length of time gets "reset", ie, loses the defects.
 
In the video, the "light" that people see on Brown Mountain is that glow in the distance off to the right of the image. The source for that light was shown almost a century ago to be the headlight of an oncoming train in the distance.

The dancing lights on the left side of the image are insects reflecting some kind of light back to the recorder, which means that the light came from the recording device. You can even see fluttering wings on the blue one. That insect looks cicada-shaped to me, but I don't hear any cicadas on the audio (only crickets and katydids). Thus, I presume that it is a moth; it doesn't look right for a katydid.
 
River said:
NL was looking through a thermal imaging camera. Hence the blob. Have you seen what images look like though one? Also, I've noticed you tend to grasp at the most extravagant possible explanations before you look at the most simple ones. (or without completely understanding what you are addressing) Quartz, really? Anyhow, nuff said.
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What's wrong with sand? Anyway, no, I've never had a reason to look through a thermal imager. The only thermal images I've seen are the ones hunters post which are recognizable as the animal that they are hunting.
 
Jodie said:
The only ones I've seen on Brown Mountain are the ones in that video. The two I saw in my lifetime looked like the blobs that NL described. Maybe they look different from a distance, what was in the video reminded me of the way static electricity looks.
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Are you saying that
1. you have actually gone to Brown Mountain and witnessed the "ghost" lights?
2. you have personally seen disembodied lights, the size of a human head, floating freely in the sky?
 
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1. I have never personally seen the Brown Mountain Lights.

2. I have seen ball lightening twice. Once as a child when it came in through the television during a thunderstorm and exited through the sliding glass door via the antennae wire, the other incident was a few years ago when one popped out of a malfunctioning air conditioning unit across the street.

I didn't get head out of NL's description, I read blob, so I assumed it was a blob or ball. He never said whether he saw it without the thermal imager.
 
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Northern Lights said:
I have intentionally not written extensively about my recent thermal sighting because I don't have anything more than my story, and it isn't evidence. But, I've come to the conclusion that it isn't good forum manners to make a fleeting reference and then not elaborate. Since this subject has turned more along the lines of what Resume has listed, I have decided to give a bit more detail and see if any of those items can be used to explain my sighting. Here are the highlights, and again, I realize this isn't evidence, just my story:

Friday, September 6, 2013, approximately 10:00 p.m. CDT. We were sitting around a camp fire in a very remote location in northern Minnesota with 4 adult males, 2 adult females and 2 teenage boys. We had been hearing stick snaps around the camp since sundown. I was handed a Flir thermal scope that had a recorder attached. I was told it was recording, so I walked out of camp alone down a trail approximately 150 feet to the west. All I could see in the scope was faint white images of the birch trees, and nothing else. After a few minutes of viewing the trail to the west, a bright white image appeared. It was sort of round shaped at the top and spread out below fading to black and was moving slowly to the north east.

I watched it move in the deep woods as it slowly approached our camp. The movement was very fluid, appearing to glide along. One of our campers was playing the flute as the others were talking. I could only see a rounded image and did not see any other distinct shape through the scope, but it was very clear and moving and a slow but steady pace. It would disappear behind the trees and reappear on the other side. I watched it for approximately five minutes and lost sight as it got very close to the camp. I decided to walk back to camp and take up another vantage point and see if I could find it again. I was not able to find it again, so I walked back to my original location.

After a few minutes, I was able to find it again close to our camp and it started moving back towards the west away from camp. It was moving slowly and again, I could only see a rounded image on top. It took a few minutes, but it went back to the spot where I first picked it up where it stopped moving. It stayed at the location for approximately 10 minutes where it just faded off and the screen went black.

The next morning, we downloaded the thermal files to find them empty. They didn't record anything, much to my frustration. We went into the woods and discovered a small trail which matched the path the image took that I viewed through the scope. I had one camper stand on the path as I went back to my original location and discovered I couldn't see him. There was a line of trees between me and him and he had to wave his shirt over his head so I could see it. We measured the line of trees and they topped out at 8 feet. The image I viewed was above the line of trees so we determined it to be approximately 9 feet tall.

So, to recap, I watched it for a total of approximately 15 minutes, it traveled a distance of approximately 100 yards to our camp and 100 yards back, and it was measured at approximately 9 feet tall.

So, based on this information and using the list provided by Resume, what are your thoughts?

Additionally, no one else saw it because I believed it was being recorded and didn't want to take my eye off it. No one knew where we were camping and we were on private land. There was a new moon that night, so it was very dark.

This isn't something I believe I saw, this was something I did see. There is no question in my mind and I am not lying. I have absolutely nothing to gain by providing these details and actually am expecting to be ridiculed, but I've said before that I'm a big boy and can take it. Fire away.
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Don't ya'll get it. The bigfoot has evolved. They've been naturally blurry for the last 40 + years in photographs. A favorable genetic mutation has also made them blobby in thermal imaging. It gives them just that little edge over the plain ole blurry ones...
 
Jodie said:
...I didn't get head out of NL's description, I read blob, so I assumed it was a blob or ball.
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The implication was a head, e.g.,
...a bright white image appeared. It was sort of round shaped at the top and spread out below...
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Which implied to me, head over a body. Certainly not described as a disembodied blob floating freely.

But of course, his description is contradictory and so confusing, e.g., later he describes it as,
I could only see a rounded image and did not see any other distinct shape through the scope...
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"a rounded image" - doesn't even imply that the image is round. A triangle can be rounded...

All this despite the image being,
...but it was very clear ...
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Later all he could see was,
... I could only see a rounded image on top
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On top of what?
He never said whether he saw it without the thermal imager.
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All of his account said that he only saw it through the imager.
 
The Shrike said:
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The dancing lights on the left side of the image are insects reflecting some kind of light back to the recorder, which means that the light came from the recording device. You can even see fluttering wings on the blue one. That insect looks cicada-shaped to me, but I don't hear any cicadas on the audio (only crickets and katydids). Thus, I presume that it is a moth; it doesn't look right for a katydid.
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Small bats, maybe. They have a bat-like flutter.
 
Resume said:
NL:

Can you see how confirmatory bias can make one susceptible to hoaxing?

A few points.

You were handed a Flir camera, sort of the way neophytes were handed a burlap sack before embarking on a snipe hunt. So who handed you the camera? Why? Well, one reason could be that it's the perfect vehicle to produce an ambiguous image subject to interpretation. Paranormal "investigators" are way ahead of bigfoot enthusiasts in this regard. Then, of course, the files were empty the next morning, and you were left with your memory of the events from the night before. Then, what ho, you found a trail that matched your memory. Which leads us here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_memory_biases

Have you given much thought to the perfectly rational idea that your fellow campers hoaxed you? If not, why not?
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tap-tap-tap "This thing on?"
 
The government shutdown might make Bigfoot come out of hiding. With the National Parks being closed Bigfoot might see a chance to come out of the forest and into clearings. The males might battle for territory out in the open without the fear of being filmed by humans. The Bigfoot researchers and hunters should try to be the first ones back inside the parks for the best chance at capturing a treasure in photo or video. A Bigfoot dung pile could be worth serious money and that is especially needed in these dull economic times.
 
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Yes, I just returned from Glacier, Yellowstone and Grand Teton in early September and there were no bigfoots to be seen. Time will certainly be of the essense when the parks reopen. Maybe the first ones in could bring Zagnut bars, beans and the like as extra incentive. Can't wait....
 
mustbeso said:
Yes, I just returned from Glacier, Yellowstone and Grand Teton in early September and there were no bigfoots to be seen.
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Yeah well you were probably seen by a few of them. They stay hiding back behind the shrubbery and look out at the other things in the world.

They check people out but rarely get checked out by people.

Plus if you surprise one in the open they can hunker down flat on the ground like a badger. You would think they are a rock or a log or a patch of brown plants or something.
 
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William Parcher said:
Yeah well you were probably seen by a few of them. They stay hiding back behind the shrubbery and look out at the other things in the world.

They check people out but rarely get checked out by people.

Plus if you surprise one in the open they can hunker down flat on the ground like a badger. You would think they are a rock or a log or a patch of brown plants or something.
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Then, they blast you with infrasound, or is it ultrasound, or is it ultrabrite . . .
 
You know, I did get that strange feeliing that I was being watched a few times; the old whispers from the earth stuff is real.
 
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