KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked

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I have seen a lot of batcrap crazy ideas from the truthers, but their defense of drunk driving on the "It's OK if I drive drunk but don't hurt anybody" basis is right up there with the craziest.
Back in the early 80's when I heard a few Libertarian types mouth this crap, it was one of the major factors that made my career as a Libertarian very short.

Yep. A fair number of the motorcycle community have the same attitude. That's why I tend to ride alone or with my wife and FiL only.

 

[Walter Ego]

Mods: Could the off-topic drunk-driving posts be shifted to the appropriate forum?

 

[Algebra34]

Oh brother. Now I endorse drunk driving. Right.

Police should have just cause to pull you over. That's it. It's how I feel. When I said I did nothing wrong, I meant I did nothing while driving to get pulled over. There is no room for gestapo like tactics in America no matter how many PTA/MadMother like groups are screaming and crying.

Should this be in politics?

Would anyone like to comment on how someone is lawfully defined an enemy combatant? Besides being drunk?

 

[Justin39640]

Would anyone like to comment on how someone is lawfully defined an enemy combatant? Besides being drunk?

Admit to planning and attacking the US.
Pretty cut and dry to me.

 

[Algebra34]

Admit to planning and attacking the US.
Pretty cut and dry to me.

How do you know that everyone who has been held for years now has admitted as much? And why don't you need to know?

 

[beachnut]

The Amercian people love drunk drivers. They elected George Bush twice.

So you will be running on the drunk driving platform. I can see your claims drunk drivers are better than sober drivers as your running platform. Good for you, you prefer to be impaired and spew lies on 911. KSM owns up, you make excuses.

 

[Algebra34]

So you will be running on the drunk driving platform. I can see your claims drunk drivers are better than sober drivers as your running platform. Good for you, you prefer to be impaired and spew lies on 911. KSM owns up, you make excuses.

Hey Beach? Enough already. There is a topic to this thread. I am also guilty of indulging. I apologize. Let's get back on track.

Would anyone like to comment on how someone is lawfully defined an enemy combatant?

 

[beachnut]

Hey Beach? Enough already. There is a topic to this thread. I am also guilty of indulging. I apologize. Let's get back on track.

Would anyone like to comment on how someone is lawfully defined an enemy combatant?

KSM owns up to his actions; you post delusions based on the failed 911 truth vapor movement.

UBL owns up, he promised to kill Americans, you support failed ideas. UBL owns up; you post delusions.

What do you have to support the terrorists and free them? Are you in UBL's camp? No because UBL's followers are truthful.

What do you have to support KSM? So far your weak apologies for terrorists are based on delusions. weak

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Hey Beach? Enough already. There is a topic to this thread. I am also guilty of indulging. I apologize. Let's get back on track.

Would anyone like to comment on how someone is lawfully defined an enemy combatant?

The third Geneva Convention has what you want.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Would anyone like to comment on how someone is lawfully defined an enemy combatant? Besides being drunk?

from the Military Commissions Act of 2006:

"The term 'unlawful enemy combatant' means —
(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al-Qaida, or associated forces); or
(ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense."

"The term 'lawful enemy combatant' means a person who is —
(A) a member of the regular forces of a State party engaged in hostilities against the United States;
(B) a member of a militia, volunteer corps, or organized resistance movement belonging to a State party engaged in such hostilities, which are under responsible command, wear a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry their arms openly, and abide by the law of war; or
(C) a member of a regular armed force who professes allegiance to a government engaged in such hostilities, but not recognized by the United States."

 

[Algebra34]

from the Military Commissions Act of 2006:

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Where were all of them convicted of doing any of this and by what court?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Where were all of them convicted of doing any of this and by what court?

are you arguing that someone should only be tried for being an unlawful enemy combatant if they had been previously convicted of such by another court or tribunal?

i guess its par for the course with the truthers "there is no first time fro anything"

 

[carlitos]

And that every direct, factual answer to a question will be met with another question. Without even a "thank you for providing that information I asked for."

To wit, post 587 and 590. Here is a place where, 9 times out of 10, you ask a question, and someone is able to answer it. Speaks to the greatness of mankind, if you ask me.

 

[Algebra34]

are you arguing that someone should only be tried for being an unlawful enemy combatant if they had been previously convicted of such by another court or tribunal?

i guess its par for the course with the truthers "there is no first time fro anything"

And what planet do you live on?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Mods: Could the off-topic drunk-driving posts be shifted to the appropriate forum?

I do not believe that the DUI talk is a derail.

I submit that the intended topic of any Galileo thread is in fact Galileo.

 

[Walter Ego]

I do not believe that the DUI talk is a derail.

I submit that the intended topic of any Galileo thread is in fact Galileo.

Granted. But what does drunk driving have to do with 9/11 CTs?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Granted. But what does drunk driving have to do with 9/11 CTs?

thats why we need a new investigation to find out!

 

[carlitos]

George Bush drove drunk.
George Bush blew up Manhattan.
QED

 

[Galileo]

POLITICO Breaking News:

"The Obama administration on Friday abandoned plans to try 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Manhattan, following objections from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a senior administration official said. The accused terrorist will be tried domestically, but officials have not decided where. Options for the trial include a military base."

For a demonstration that these men are innocent, please see my detailed legal analysis here:

KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked
Don’t believe the charges until you’ve read the charge sheet
http://www.truthjihad.com/ksm.htm

There is too big of a risk of a fair jury in Manhattan.

 

[carlitos]

a request

Since we know that Galileo is a liar / troll, and that every thread he starts is really about his own ego, may I humbly suggest that all further comments do not directly engage him? Please either discuss cheese, or the upcoming Super Bowl. I know that I'm asking a lot, but if it dissuades him even a little from his next "bump my own thread 2 weeks later" it could help. Don't feed the racist nazi troll.

I find that sautéing garlic in the butter, then adding breadcrumbs, really enhances macaroni & cheese. Just put the garlic / breadcrumbs on top and bake. If needed, broil at the end to make a nice crust.