Kid gets suspended after standing up to bully

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e9_1300102958

Personally, I think the (bullied) kid was in his right to do what he did and suspending him is completely ridiculous. What's your opinion?

(You have to fix the link manually, as I have too few posts uder my belt)

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I don't know - good for the kid to stand up to the bully (after getting punched in the face) is neat and all, but body-slamming him the way he did could cause the back and spine problems.

Dunno bro.
 
The reason wrestling is called fake is because moves like that one are too dangerous and likely to cause permanent damage when they're not choreographed.

But that kid deserved it. :-\

I'd say they both need punished, but differently. The bully because he just walked up to and punched him in the face. The victim because he should be taught more proper ways to defend himself. And then the school because I'm certain they ignored previous complaints about that kid being a bully.
 
I'm having a difficult time with this one. I feel for the kid, I was a husky boy who was constantly picked on in elementary and middle school. I still remember coming home from school every day and crying because of what the kids said to me, and I was frequently beaten up. The teachers were all too happy to ignore it (boys will be boys) and I was regularly seeing a shrink in the fifth grade because I had attempted suicide. So I understand what it means to be bullied. And because of that, I find it really difficult to sympathize with the kid who was body slammed. Part of me wants to pat the victim on his back and tell him he did a good job standing up for himself. But the adult that I am now says he went too far and could have seriously hurt -- or killed -- the kid who was slammed.
 
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I'd love to say that what the bullied kid did was wrong--but I'd be lying through my teeth.

Insofar as teaching the bullied kid that there are more appropriate ways to defend himself, sorry, but walking away and/or trying to reason with the bully are not rational ways of dealing with an irrational person.

Michael
 
I submit this:

Just about any adult that expects kids to 'defuse' situations and otherwise ignore bullies would press charges against any adult that walked up and punched them in the face, and that the punishment that the adult would face would be significant enough to keep them from trying such a thing again.

Why do they expect kids with much less refined coping skills to do more than they are willing to do?

As for the body slam, yes, a bit over the top, but not so different from what we suffered all of the time playing kick ball, falling of the jungle gym, etc.
 
coalesce said:
I'd love to say that what the bullied kid did was wrong--but I'd be lying through my teeth.

Insofar as teaching the bullied kid that there are more appropriate ways to defend himself, sorry, but walking away and/or trying to reason with the bully are not rational ways of dealing with an irrational person.

Michael
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Of course avoidance doesn't work, but you can't just drop people on their heads. That can easily kill someone.
 
IDB87 said:
I don't know - good for the kid to stand up to the bully (after getting punched in the face) is neat and all, but body-slamming him the way he did could cause the back and spine problems.
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Good.
 
I also wonder at the complete lack of intervention before the slam. Kids were all about it until the idiot kid got smashed. I was a tiny guy that grew 10 inches my senior year in high school. Expecting the big kid to exercise more restraint than the little kid is silly. Someone should teach the little bully that his behavior is inappropriate. And someone did. It's not like he gave him a funny look. He repeatedly punched him in the face.
 
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Punching someone repeatedly for no reason? Yeah, I think that's bullying.
 
Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, I agree with you. I find it very odd that if someone walked up to me now and punched me repeatedly, no one would take issue with me retailiating and yet for some reason, when a child responds to an attack, some people will say the child needs to be taught more suitable ways of responding. Violence is not an unreasonable or unsuitable response to violence.
 
When I was a kid, the usual size of the bully and victim were the reverse of this.
 
Sledge said:
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Not really. I've done my fair share of bullying, and vice versa - none of what I did or had done to me would warrant a body slam that could potentially cripple me/them.

I guess asking you where the line for 'retaliation' is drawn would be a relevant question?
 
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dirtywick said:
Is this even considered bullying?
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Depends on what happened before (historically).

When I was in school, it wasn't unheard of for kids to randomly start fights with people. A friend of mine (not so much anymore) in high school would always go looking for fights inside/outside of school with anyone - bigger, smaller in groups or alone it didn't matter. He just liked to fight.

*shrugg*

This video, imo, would've played out better with some good old fisticuffs (which will usually settle bullying). Body slamming someone onto their back/head would not only settle the bullying, but potentially make the young misguided bully a cripple for the rest of his life.
 
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