Kevin Trudeau on 20/20

Jimbo07 said:
I work in Calgary. For anyone interested, there is an article in today's Herald noting that the U of C's lawyers have sent KT a cease and desist letter.
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I am interested. Do you have a link to the article?
 
Oh, this is fun reading:

Kevin Trudeau Calls for Investigation of New York Consumer Protection Board

Best-selling author Kevin Trudeau today called for a federal and state investigation of the New York Consumer Protection Board as a result of the recent arrest of its Executive Deputy Director for felony possession of crack cocaine coupled with the erratic conduct of the agency under her control.
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The CPB, under Ms. Quartararo's apparent direction, had sent a letter to approximately 100 broadcasters nationwide making defamatory assertions about Mr. Trudeau and his book. The federal court found that the CPB letter also misrepresented the decisions of the federal court itself.
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Jimbo07 said:
I work in Calgary. For anyone interested, there is an article in today's Herald noting that the U of C's lawyers have sent KT a cease and desist letter.
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Maybe this will help the U of C be a bit less woo-ish. I can't believe that they have an acupuncturist at their med school.
 
A link eh?

'triple dub'.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=a2175fba-5488-4d4a-b4d2-1b91117e6b3d&k=55936, called U of C refutes diabetes coverup.

It's too bad, because U of A researchers (in the same province) HAVE made significant progress in diabetes research (oh those whacky scienticians ;) )

Edit: too late... I was away from my desk, Luke!
 
S'okay, Jimbo. I appreciate the heads up. I'm emailing all this stuff to my wife so she can forward it to her friend who is hooked on Trudeau.
 
What's this about an acupuncturist at U of C's medical school? Who? That's interesting!

I did check and there was Alternative Medicine offered in the extension division... not exactly the fast track to specialization in neurosurgery, but even so...
 
Yeah, the head of something or other is an acupuncturist. I'll look it up when I get home.

And I believe that U of C was involved with ColdFX, and that those results are being called into question, but I could be wrong. Let me look this up when I'm at home and sober.
 
Psi Baba said:
Ads by Google. The wonders of web technology. You write an article critical of something and you end up advertising it! Brilliant.
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[derail]I'm getting really tired of this excuse. "We know it's our web site, but the ads come from someone else. We have no control." Yes, you bloody well do. Stop using the service.[/derail]
 
Jas said:
Yeah, the head of something or other is an acupuncturist. I'll look it up when I get home.

And I believe that U of C was involved with ColdFX, and that those results are being called into question, but I could be wrong. Let me look this up when I'm at home and sober.
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Hmmm...I can't find what I was looking for with the ColdFX
http://www.cvtechnologies.com/coldfx/evidence.aspx

This is from the University of Alberta, in Edmonton:
http://www.medicalacupuncture.com/aama_marf/journal/vol12_1/certificate.html

Acupuncture is no longer considered a fringe or alternative medical therapy among many physicians in Western societies as was the case only a quarter of a century ago. Indeed, this ancient therapy has survived more than 20 centuries of practice and continues to pass the stringent test of time. It is now widely recognized and accepted as one of the leading modern complementary therapies, especially for the management of chronic pain.
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I'm totally going off on a tangent here, but here's some more U of C. Though they don't reference the study mentioned.

http://www.sportmed.ucalgary.ca/patient.htm

Three of our physiotherapists are fully certified in acupuncture. Scientific studies have shown that acupuncture needles cause nerve impulses to transmit signals to the spinal cord and the brain triggering the release of chemical substances (enkephalins, B-endorphins) that react with relevant opioid receptors to induce an anti-pain effect. In addition, the needle can mechanically stretch extrafusal and intrafusal muscle fibres as well as cause the blood vessels in the area to release platelet growth factor that stimulates healing. These factors may allow the nerve and it’s surrounding muscle and vascular tissue to return to it’s normal state.
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I must have misremembered...I was sure that there was an acupuncturist teaching at UofC medschool. I'll keep looking when I have more time, I might have gotten myself mixed up.
 
Jas said:
This is from the University of Alberta, in Edmonton:
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Note that that's from the U of A's extension division as well. That's like saying an outreach course in "Typing documents on your computer," leads to a Computer Engineering degree.

In both the U of C and U of A cases (and perhaps other universities), there seems to be a little more woo in the extension divisions than in regular classes. If I had to bet, this is a response to provincial pressure for 'wellness' in society, rather than expensive social health care.

Also, in western Canada, immigrant populations are rising, so there may be more of a demand for 'traditional' forms of care. It's all about the money.

I know that I'm convinced that it is unethical to make money off of harmful woo, but is there harmless woo? Is it unethical to make money off of harmless woo? I don't know.
 
Psi Baba said:
Ads by Google. The wonders of web technology. You write an article critical of something and you end up advertising it! Brilliant.
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It's excellent.
You criticise something, people click on the relevant link to find out how rubish it is, and people like KT end up paying you to drive customers away from them.
 
Jekyll said:
It's excellent.
You criticise something, people click on the relevant link to find out how rubish it is, and people like KT end up paying you to drive customers away from them.
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If it has that effect more often than not, I'd agree, but how often does it just confuse the reader, as many people assume automatic endorsement of an advertisement by whoever is hosting the ad just by virtue of it being there?
 
Jimbo07 said:
Note that that's from the U of A's extension division as well. That's like saying an outreach course in "Typing documents on your computer," leads to a Computer Engineering degree.
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No, there is or was an acupuncturist on on the faculty of the U of C medschool, I just have to find it.

Aside from which, they are teaching in their kinesiology programs that acupuncture is a valid therapy.
 
Well, it's perhaps fortunate that I'm attending neither right now, but they are near and dear to me.

Now, speaking of other universities, how many might be getting on this bandwagon, or are these very isolated cases?
 
I dunno, U of C is woo.

I have friends who go to medschool there, and you should hear some of the crap they come up with.

*sigh* It's bad enough that we don't have any good bars here.
 
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