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corplinx said:


I'll one-up you by putting you _on_ ignore. Welcome to the club jj and tmy occupy of people on this forum who never have anything insightful or provocative to post and seem to get their political views from listening to top 40 FM deejays.

You are in good company. I call it the "kids table".
Seems like he does have something provocative to post. You sure got provoked.

Where can I sign up?
I don't ever seem to have anything insightful to post either.
 
subgenius said:

Where can I sign up?
I don't ever seem to have anything insightful to post either.

Where would I get all the latest Bush scandal info from if you were on ignore?
 
corplinx said:


Where would I get all the latest Bush scandal info from if you were on ignore?
Oh somehow you might stumble upon it, oh say on the front page of every paper, the evening news, or somewhere.
All of it is so easily dismissed, why would you want to hear it in the first place?
But we digress.
Back to Kerry's fidelity.
 
Posted by corplinx

Yeah, the RNC leaked the Rush Limbaugh story to Drudge.
I only have a minute (which is frustrating...but, anyway...), corplinx, Tricky was right about Limbaugh.

Drudge didn't break the Limbaugh story (so, no, don't worry. He's still a gossip columnist who's loyal to the Republicans :) ).

The National Enquirer broke the Limbaugh story. Not Drudge.
 
Clancie said:

The National Enquirer broke the Limbaugh story. Not Drudge.

I think you are splitting hairs. Drudge scooped the fact that the story was coming out in the Enquirer.

Its a scoop by proxy but he still had "Rush Limbaugh" and "Drugs" in a headline before anyone else.
 
Posted by crackmonkey

The National Enquirer also broke the Kerry infidelity story. Drudge just ran with it.
Um...the difference being that there is no infidelity story. :p
Posted by corplinx

Face it, you want Kerry to win and have a subconcious bias....
Clancie, im holding out hope for you too bub.
Oh, and corplinx....

I don't have an subconscious bias against Bush at all! On the contrary, it is very, very conscious!

Nevertheless, I think I can still be fair when it comes to criticizing the press.

And Drudge is basically just a political gossip columnist whose column is a outgrowth of his Republican politics. Nothing much to take note of at all there.....
 
Clancie said:

Um...the difference being that there is no infidelity story. :p

Its a self perpetuating story. Sorta like the Bush awol thing.

Again, I think you are being too defensive. Part of the Kerry story is the fact it was attributed to the Clark camp. That is much more interesting than the as of yet baseless accusation.
 
Posted by corplinx

...is the fact it was attributed to the Clark camp
Well, let me ask you this, corplinx....you talk about the Kerry story being "attributed to the Clark 'camp'".

Could you show that its a "fact" that the story actually came from someone working for Clark himself?

Drudge didn't publish this as fact. He spread it (as usual) as rumor and innuendo, hoping people would accept it as fact.

That's the difference.
 
Clancie said:

Well, let me ask you this, corplinx....you talk about the Kerry story being "attributed to the Clark 'camp'".

Could you show that its a "fact" that the story actually came from someone working for Clark himself?

The original source of the story is a blog run by Cameron Barrett who works for Wesley Clark. Watchblog itself, however, is not exactly a pro-Clark blog. Certainly it is not a White House organ, either.

It took 6 days to get from Watchblog to Drudge.

MattJ
 
SInce the story of infidelity seems to be a non-issue at this point, the issue is who tried to derail Kerry.

As stated elsewhere in this thread, it seems the report was first made public by someone in the Clark campaign.

However, that still leaves two possibilities, given the slanderous/libelous nature of the story:

1. Cameron Barrett made it up to discredit Kerry, not realizing that Clark was going to drop out of the race.

2. Someone fed the story to Barrett (and possibly others in the democratic nominees, as well) hoping that it would lend some credence to it if it came from a fellow democrat.

Going solely with a gut feeling on this one, I think choice #2 is the more likely scenario, though I won't speculate as to the actual source.
 
"Polier, who's in Kenya visiting the family of her fiancée, Israeli-born Yaron Schwartzman, said, "Because these stories were false, I assumed the media would ignore them. It seems that efforts to peddle these lies continue, so I feel compelled to address them." She also said she had never worked for Kerry, as some reports have suggested.

Her parents issued a separate statement that said the rumors are "unfounded" and added, "We appreciate the way Sen. Kerry has handled the situation and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."

But that's in sharp contrast to her father's attack on Kerry as a "sleazeball" just four days earlier, on Thursday, as quoted in Friday's edition of the British paper, The Sun. Those remarks certainly didn't indicate he intended to vote for Kerry."
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/18120.htm

So her parents are going to vote for him, and Clark endorsed him.

Were the quotes real in the first place?
 
So, it appears to be a knife in the back from a fellow Dem. Are you prepared to admit that this wasn;t a right-wing smear job, as was 'common knowlege' earlier in the thread?
 
subgenius said:
"Polier, who's in Kenya visiting the family of her fiancée, Israeli-born Yaron Schwartzman, said, "Because these stories were false, I assumed the media would ignore them. It seems that efforts to peddle these lies continue, so I feel compelled to address them." She also said she had never worked for Kerry, as some reports have suggested.

Her parents issued a separate statement that said the rumors are "unfounded" and added, "We appreciate the way Sen. Kerry has handled the situation and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."

But that's in sharp contrast to her father's attack on Kerry as a "sleazeball" just four days earlier, on Thursday, as quoted in Friday's edition of the British paper, The Sun. Those remarks certainly didn't indicate he intended to vote for Kerry."
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/18120.htm

So her parents are going to vote for him, and Clark endorsed him.

Were the quotes real in the first place?

The rumor of an affair with Kerry was fueled by dropout Democratic candidate Wesley Clark's claim to reporters that the Massachusetts senator would soon "implode" over an intern scandal. A day after that news broke and rumors escalated, Clark endorsed Kerry.

LMAO! Who did Clark get a phone call or memo from to tell him to endorse Kerry in a big hurry?
 
peptoabysmal said:




LMAO! Who did Clark get a phone call or memo from to tell him to endorse Kerry in a big hurry?

I don't know , who?

As I stated before I tried to follow the link to the Sun , but they had no such quote or interview.

I think it was Clinton, Ya thats it ! Clinton
 
TillEulenspiegel said:


I don't know , who?

As I stated before I tried to follow the link to the Sun , but they had no such quote or interview.

I think it was Clinton, Ya thats it ! Clinton
Probably Hillary Clinton, by instructions from SATAN!!!:j2:
 
Posted by Some Friggin' Guy

....However, that still leaves two possibilities, given the slanderous/libelous nature of the story:

1. Cameron Barrett made it up to discredit Kerry, not realizing that Clark was going to drop out of the race.

2. Someone fed the story to Barrett (and possibly others in the democratic nominees, as well) hoping that it would lend some credence to it if it came from a fellow democrat.

Going solely with a gut feeling on this one, I think choice #2 is the more likely scenario, though I won't speculate as to the actual source.
Yes, I think both are possible. But its still interesting how Drudge and the Sun ran with it. Maybe Rove was leaking it to -several- sources, like he (imo) most likely did with the outing of the CIA agent last year.

I still see Republican fingerprints...just going by past observation of GWB's dirty primary campaigns (i.e. vs. McCain).
 
Being in the talk radio industry (after a fashion) I tend to listen to conservative talk radio to see what I'm up against (I am proud to be not only a Dem, but a Liberal, as well.)

I find it hysterical (in a truly frightening way) that rather than admit the info was faulty at best, the likes of Limbaugh, and Hannity (screeching hate-nazis that they are) have spun the denial and statements from the parents to indicate that someone paid them off.

Ah, the intellectual honesty of the conservative talk show host. It really warms my heart.
 

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