Kamela Harris' first rally

Huh? I'm genuenely not even sure what you're trying to say here. Can you rephrase?

They've all just become insults folks level at other folks they don't like. Especially true of racist and fascist, but rapist now too.
 
They've all just become insults folks level at other folks they don't like. Especially true of racist and fascist, but rapist now too.
That's what I thought. So you're trying to deny that Dump is all those things?
 
Kamala Harris is smart. Like Obama was/is smart. Trump, of course, is just a joke, a half-witted (if malevolent) circus clown; but Biden didn't really come across as particularly smart, did he --- not smart per se, even if more than adequate for his job as Prez, and actually an Einstein when compared to Trump.

I think it is the stark stark contrast with Trump, and to a lesser extent with Biden as well, that makes Kamala stand out so.
 
Harris is not doing well with Netanjahu's visit.
It's the right time to put some actual pressure on the Israeli leadership, and instead she is signing on on the Blank Check.
 
Last two appearances, she's been very good. I'm hopeful.

FYI, rumors from folks I know that know folks she knows. All Lawyers in SF, they are not generally impressed with her intellect. Meh, I mean, Trump so, who cares.....

And she gave a pretty good speech if you think Hamas is a terrible organization that needs gotten rid of. Not so good if you think Israel is a terrible organization that needs gotten rid of.
 
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That's what I thought. So you're trying to deny that Dump is all those things?

I dont' think he is a fascist. Racist, I think he doesn't give a ****. He likes rich men and pretty women, race doesn't factor in except where it advantages him. He panders to racist, which is kind of worse. Rape, the women he raped didn't know it until she was told but her friend. I also don't think you or anyone else actually cares about that. If he were a dem accused of rape, that's just trailer trash, drag a dollar through a trailer park and you'll find a dozen.

And to be clear, mostly I don't think anyone cares about any of it, so its insincere. They use it as a bludgeon against those they don't like and ignore it when it's their side or make excuses. A rep makes some off color remark, dog whistle or worse, a lefty wears black face, well, that was a different time.
 
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Last two appearances, she's been very good. I'm hopeful.

FYI, rumors from folks I know that know folks she knows. All Lawyers in SF, they are not generally impressed with her intellect. Meh, I mean, Trump so, who cares.....

And she gave a pretty good speech if you think Hamas is a terrible organization that needs gotten rid of. Not so good if you think Israel is a terrible organization that needs gotten rid of.

Likud is a terrible organization that needs to be gotten rid of.
 
I dont' think he is a fascist.

He doesn't seem to be turned off by fascism.

Racist, I think he doesn't give a ****.

Of course not.

He likes rich men and pretty women, race doesn't factor in except where it advantages him.

There's more to racism that just running around screaming slurs

He panders to racist, which is kind of worse.

Its a distinction without a difference

Rape, the women he raped didn't know it until she was told but her friend.

except for the ones who did reprot it. Also, it doesn't matte rif she thought it was rape at the time. the actions E Jean Carroll described are sexual assault under New York State law.

I also don't think you or anyone else actually cares about that. If he were a dem accused of rape, that's just trailer trash, drag a dollar through a trailer park and you'll find a dozen.

Ya, James Carville is a piece of trash. I won't defend him.

And to be clear, mostly I don't think anyone cares about any of it, so its insincere.

So, because you don't think it matters, no one does?

They use it as a bludgeon against those they don't like and ignore it when it's their side or make excuses. A rep makes some off color remark, dog whistle or worse, a lefty wears black face, well, that was a different time.

There's plenty of people who call this out. In fact, part of the reason a lot of oppose our current power sturctures is that it creates a binary where we have to choose, for example, between a guy who doesn't see a problem with black face and an actual rapist.
 
Ya, James Carville is a piece of trash. I won't defend him.

ahhell is also completely wrong about if it were a Dem. Franken didn't rape anyone at all, but the Dems got him to resign. The fact is the Dems boot people out of the party when their people are accused of ****. The Republicans make them the top of their ticket.
 
Clinton did likely rape and definitely sexually assaulted women but that was different time.

And I know, the Reps cared then and don't now, so **** them but don't try and convince me the Dems actually care if it's do their advantage not to.

That may be debateable but the fascism and racism accusation, that's just a bludgeon for the folks you don't like.
 
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Clinton did likely rape and definitely sexually assaulted women but that was different time.

Who did he rape and who did he sexually assault? The beej in the oval office was definitely terrible because of the power dynamic between the two, but it was consensual as far as I know. Am I missing others? You're trying really hard here to make a distinction and I don't think you're doing as good of a job as you think you are.
 
Clinton did likely rape and definitely sexually assaulted women but that was different time.

And I know, the Reps cared then and don't now, so **** them but don't try and convince me the Dems actually care if it's do their advantage not to.

That may be debateable but the fascism and racism accusation, that's just a bludgeon for the folks you don't like.

The fascism and racism accusations are based on what they say and do. Try again.
 
Clinton did likely rape and definitely sexually assaulted women but that was different time.

And I know, the Reps cared then and don't now, so **** them but don't try and convince me the Dems actually care if it's do their advantage not to.

What a pile of nonsense. None of the allegations against Clinton stood up and one was proved to be a lie.



If the Dems don't care then explain why

1. Al Franken resigned over sexual misconduct allegations,

2. Gary Hart dropped out of the 1988 race over the Donna Rice affair,

3. Andrew Cuomo resigned over sexual harassment allegations,

4. Rep. John Conyers resigned over sexual harassment allegations,

et al.

On the other hand:

And this is the bottom line on sexual assault by men in public office in Washington and around the nation: While Sen. Al Franken and Rep. John Conyers, both Democrats, resign in the wake of mounting harassment and assault allegations, Republican child predator Roy Moore stays in the Alabama race, Groper-in-Chief Trump remains in the White House, and Jack Latvala is sticking around the Florida Senate and the 2018 governor’s race. All of these Republican men have multiple accusers with damning stories of forced kissing, groping, and in Trump’s case, even rape.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/lo...-santiago/article188643249.html#storylink=cpy

This story may be several years old, but it still holds true.
 
Clinton did likely rape and definitely sexually assaulted women but that was different time.

And I know, the Reps cared then and don't now, so **** them but don't try and convince me the Dems actually care if it's do their advantage not to.

That may be debateable but the fascism and racism accusation, that's just a bludgeon for the folks you don't like.

There is no evidence that Clinton raped anyone. There are all kinds of stories that the right wing has put out that allude to it.

I have absolutely no doubt Bill was a horn dog that would come on to women however.
 
Kamala Harris is smart. Like Obama was/is smart. Trump, of course, is just a joke, a half-witted (if malevolent) circus clown; but Biden didn't really come across as particularly smart, did he --- not smart per se, even if more than adequate for his job as Prez, and actually an Einstein when compared to Trump.

I think it is the stark stark contrast with Trump, and to a lesser extent with Biden as well, that makes Kamala stand out so.

Talked with my attorney sister last night, and according to her when Harris was a
Prosecuting Attorney, she was one of the ones you did not want to go against if you were a defense attorney.
I would not be surprised if Donnie is looking for a way to get out of a debate with her since I am pretty sure his campaign people have told him about this.
 
Who did he rape and who did he sexually assault? The beej in the oval office was definitely terrible because of the power dynamic between the two, but it was consensual as far as I know. Am I missing others? You're trying really hard here to make a distinction and I don't think you're doing as good of a job as you think you are.

What Clinton did was reprehensible, but hardly rape.
 
What a pile of nonsense. None of the allegations against Clinton stood up and one was proved to be a lie.



If the Dems don't care then explain why

1. Al Franken resigned over sexual misconduct allegations,

2. Gary Hart dropped out of the 1988 race over the Donna Rice affair,

3. Andrew Cuomo resigned over sexual harassment allegations,

4. Rep. John Conyers resigned over sexual harassment allegations,

et al.

On the other hand:



Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/lo...-santiago/article188643249.html#storylink=cpy

This story may be several years old, but it still holds true.

And after the story of his refusal to support and denial of his born out of wedlock daughter got out, John Edwards, once considered Presidential timber, career was over.
CHarecter matters.End of story.
And during the Edwards scandal, you had one guy here who stated he did not care about Edwards ethics but only his policies. I think that was horrid position to takem abd Trump shows that.
 
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What a pile of nonsense. None of the allegations against Clinton stood up and one was proved to be a lie.



If the Dems don't care then explain why

1. Al Franken resigned over sexual misconduct allegations,

2. Gary Hart dropped out of the 1988 race over the Donna Rice affair,

3. Andrew Cuomo resigned over sexual harassment allegations,

4. Rep. John Conyers resigned over sexual harassment allegations,

If I might add one:

Michael Zabel, my (PA) state Representative put his hand on a woman's knee and was pushed into resigning. No biggie, you might think, just a dumb state rep? Well, that had that special election gone to the GOP they would have re-asserted ownership of the PA House and started playing their usual games of trying to restrict voting etc.

Thankfully, the Democrats pushed the abortion issue, and the GOP's brilliant response was "Awww, we wouldn't do thaaaat. And even if we did the Democratic Governor would just vote lil' ol' us!"
 

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