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Julia Gillard - liar

Are the two posts above somehow addressing my argument?

I made two posts. One pointing out that I don't see Jones' apology as an apology. The other asking what you consider on topic.
You seem to have ignored both. Which is why I went back to the Australians only thread to ask who your invitation was addressing.
As that thread is now in the Community forum, I don't see how my question could be considered off topic.
Ready when you are.
 
Shiner said:
I made two posts. One pointing out that I don't see Jones' apology as an apology.
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What you see or don't see is hardly any of my concern.
My grandfather taught me something about people not seeing what they didn't want to. Any efforts on my part to show you what you don't want to see would be pointless.

This whole Jones thing is simply a distraction from the main game - what an appalling PM she actually is. The really sad thing is that both Jones and now the Labor party and their supporters are using the man's death (her dad) for cheap political point scoring.

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The other asking what you consider on topic.
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Alan Jones making crass comments does would not appear to be in line with the OP, which is about Gillard being a liar. A separate thread on Alan Jones would be the right place, I'd have thought.
 
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A.A. Alfie said:
What you see or don't see is hardly any of my concern.
My grandfather taught me something about people not seeing what they didn't want to. Any efforts on my part to show you what you don't want to see would be pointless.

This whole Jones thing is simply a distraction from the main game - what an appalling PM she actually is. The really sad thing is that both Jones and now the Labor party and their supporters are using the man's death (her dad) for cheap political point scoring.



Alan Jones making crass comments does would not appear to be in line with the OP, which is about Gillard being a liar. A separate thread on Alan Jones would be the right place, I'd have thought.
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Too easy, see ya.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
Some points from Greg Hunt (abridged)

"First, the ALP has been consistently silent about the language of hate and abuse from various left-wing commentators.

Journalist Mungo MacCallum: John Howard is an "unflushable turd"

Marieke Hardy on Brendan Nelson, “glass the ****’s wife and their children because they don’t deserve to procreate and have any children themselves”.

This was accompanied by a demand for the genital mutilation of Tony Abbott.

Hardy again (in the Drum) calling for Christopher Pyne to be raped by a dog.

Catherine Deveny after appearing on Q&A tweeted of a Coalition frontbencher and family man who appeared on the same panel, “he has the face of a rapist”.

From ALP frontbenchers themselves.

The Prime Minister’s Cabinet Secretary, Mark Dreyfus, wrote an opinion piece for The Sydney Morning Herald comparing Abbott to a Nazi war criminal.

Silence from the left on all these issues

Sauce.... goose .... gander?

I do not condone what Jones said, nor do any of the above. But let's just keep a little balance here, shall we? The man said a stupid thing off the cuff and has explained himself.
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You should acknowledge source of your material. Stealing a slab of text from an opinion piece in the Australian is a little naughty on a few levels
 
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A.A. Alfie said:
Alan Jones making crass comments does would not appear to be in line with the OP, which is about Gillard being a liar. A separate thread on Alan Jones would be the right place, I'd have thought.
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Umm no because Alan Jones crass comment was related directly to his opinion the woman is a liar. The topic of this thread is "Julia Gillard - Liar"
 
MG1962 said:
You should acknowledge source of your material. Stealing a slab of text from an opinion piece in the Australian is a little naughty on a few levels
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Whoops, my bad. :o
I thought I had done so (and omitted to) when I made the "abridged" notation at the start of the post.

MG1962 said:
Umm no because Alan Jones crass comment was related directly to his opinion the woman is a liar. The topic of this thread is "Julia Gillard - Liar"
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Fair enough, we will keep it to the liar part then - not the dead dad part. Where did Jones get the liar part wrong? What part would you like to discuss?
 
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A.A. Alfie said:
Some points from Greg Hunt (abridged)

"First, the ALP has been consistently silent about the language of hate and abuse from various left-wing commentators.

Journalist Mungo MacCallum: John Howard is an "unflushable turd"

Marieke Hardy on Brendan Nelson, “glass the ****’s wife and their children because they don’t deserve to procreate and have any children themselves”.

This was accompanied by a demand for the genital mutilation of Tony Abbott.

Hardy again (in the Drum) calling for Christopher Pyne to be raped by a dog.

Catherine Deveny after appearing on Q&A tweeted of a Coalition frontbencher and family man who appeared on the same panel, “he has the face of a rapist”.

From ALP frontbenchers themselves.

The Prime Minister’s Cabinet Secretary, Mark Dreyfus, wrote an opinion piece for The Sydney Morning Herald comparing Abbott to a Nazi war criminal.

Silence from the left on all these issues

Sauce.... goose .... gander?

I do not condone what Jones said, nor do any of the above. But let's just keep a little balance here, shall we? The man said a stupid thing off the cuff and has explained himself.
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How many of them were Labor party members addressing a Labor Party function? As for comparing Abbott to a Nazi war criminal, the actual quote seems to be missing.
 
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A.A. Alfie said:
What you see or don't see is hardly any of my concern.
My grandfather taught me something about people not seeing what they didn't want to. Any efforts on my part to show you what you don't want to see would be pointless.

This whole Jones thing is simply a distraction from the main game - what an appalling PM she actually is. The really sad thing is that both Jones and now the Labor party and their supporters are using the man's death (her dad) for cheap political point scoring.



Alan Jones making crass comments does would not appear to be in line with the OP, which is about Gillard being a liar. A separate thread on Alan Jones would be the right place, I'd have thought.
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Juliar means nothing to you?
 
a_unique_person said:
How many of them were Labor party members addressing a Labor Party function? As for comparing Abbott to a Nazi war criminal, the actual quote seems to be missing.
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So disgusting insults are ok as long as they aren't 'in house'.
Seriously, what are you saying here?
 
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I didn't say that, read what I said again.
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I have read it a number of times now, and each time it seems to say that because it was a Lib supporter at a Lib function it carries a greater weight on your disgusting level than the others.

If that is not the case, I would love for you to explain where I have got this wrong.

In fact, it seems to me that saying something off the cuff at a private function is far less heinous than publishing (say) “glass the ****’s wife and their children because they don’t deserve to procreate and have any children themselves”

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Rule 10 breach.
 
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A.A. Alfie said:
I have read it a number of times now, and each time it seems to say that because it was a Lib supporter at a Lib function it carries a greater weight on your disgusting level than the others.

If that is not the case, I would love for you to explain where I have got this wrong.

In fact, it seems to me that saying something off the cuff at a private function is far less heinous than publishing (say) “glass the ****’s wife and their children because they don’t deserve to procreate and have any children themselves”
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Deveny is not speaking as a member of the Labor party, and has been chastised plenty of times, including being sacked by The Age for comments that were over the top. Now, I would be quite happy for 2GB to follow the lead of The Age.
 
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Deveney was sacked because of a Logies tweet that said "I hope Bindi Irwin gets laid". She was 11 years old at the time. How nice.

But our public broadcaster (the ABC) has no problem employing her as a Q&A panelist and Drum contributor. Perhaps the ABC could give him a gig if 2GB lets him go. :rolleyes:
 
Gillard is lying again in her support of her Peter Slipper. She is accusing others of (untrue) misogynistic behavior while as a defense of a true misogynist.

Abject lies, a total lack of principle. Worst PM ever.
 
A categorical repudiation of Julia Gillard's witness to the Power of Attorney.

Ralph Blewitt is the man that Julia Gillard allegedly witnessed donating his Power of Attorney to Gillard's boyfriend Bruce Wilson. Blewitt says she was not there when Wilson brought the Power of Attorney to Perth for him Blewitt to sign.
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This isn't going away either. Gillard, Williamson, Blewitt, Wilson, Thompson.
Lies and scandals. Separate but together. Different but all the same with a small number of common threads.

Blewitt is saying here that Gillard has lied on a legal document - claiming she witnessed his signature when she was in another state on the day he signed. There are laws against that - but then again she was just "young and naive" at the time. :rolleyes:

Much more here:

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/

I can't help but get the feeling the walls are closing in on her. The poor little yabbette, I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for her.
 
http://www.theage.com.au/national/g...union-groups-registration-20121012-27ip6.html

Now The Age (yes, The Age!) is picking up on the number incongruent bits and pieces in this story.

A TRADE union association from which hundreds of thousands of dollars were stolen by a former boyfriend of Prime Minister Julia Gillard was registered only after Ms Gillard vouched for its legitimacy to West Australian authorities.
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Lead paragraph only - I recommend one read the entire article for the fuller picture.

Here is a former Fairfax employee - who was sacked btw over this very story - who has heaps of information and questions for the PM. This story seems to be slowly rallying its strength again.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/
 
Abbott has lied through his teeth about the carbon price, his hysterical claims have now been shown to be lies and the electorate is waking up to the fact that they've been played for suckers. People are switching off to Abbott & his lies, they're realising Gillard's "lie" isn't going to end life as we know it and that is being reflected in the polls :)

Since the last poll a month ago, Ms Gillard's approval rating has risen 5 percentage points to 47 per cent and her disapproval has fallen 5 points to 48 per cent.
Mr Abbott's ratings stayed relatively unchanged at 37 per cent approval and 60 per cent disapproval.
The poll found 42 per cent believed the Opposition Leader was sexist while 17 per cent said the same of the Prime Minister.
Ms Gillard increased by 7 points her lead over Mr Abbott as preferred prime minister and is now ahead by 50 per cent to 40 per cent.
Ms Gillard remains more popular among women but her increase in support in this poll crossed gender lines and had more to do with men.
Her approval rating rose 5 points with both men and women but her disapproval rating fell 5 points among men and 3 points with women.
Mr Abbott fell 6 points among men as preferred prime minister and only 2 points among women. Ms Gillard's support as preferred prime minister rose 5 points among men and just 1 point with women
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http://m.theage.com.au/data-point/gillard-puts-abbott-to-shame-20121021-27zks.html
 
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