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Julia Gillard - liar

a_unique_person said:
That's all this is, an embarrassing incident for her years ago getting the biggest beat up in the press this year.
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Interesting that while Gillard has not been charged with anything, Abbott was charged indecent assault, also many years ago.

Irreverent to Gillard haters.
 
I wonder if A.A. Alfie has ever heard about loaded questions.

Speaking of, I wonder if he's stopped beating his wife. Perhaps I should ask him. It's only a question.

lionking said:
Irreverent to Gillard haters.
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I assume you meant irrelevant, but I probably haven't been all that courteous anyway... :p
 
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lets just ask questions about Tony Abbott.

In the ensuing two years, he was repeatedly accused in the university paper of being a right-wing thug and bully who used sexist and racist tactics to intimidate his opponents.

Lawyer David Patch, who is a Labor candidate in the federal seat of Wentworth, recalls an AUS conference in the mid-1970s, which had initiated a special "women's room" for females to discuss political issues.

"Tony used to stand outside the women's room with his right-wing mates and loudly tell sexist and homophobic jokes," he said.

Another ex-student, Peter Murphy, who described Mr Abbott as a "warrior on the Right" believes he was the one most responsible for creating the atmosphere of terror that reigned on campus in 1977.

In August 1977 students on every NSW campus were preparing to vote in a referendum on the future of the AUS. That's when Ms Wilson's and Mr Abbott's paths crossed. Both were addressing a rally of students, held in the Ku-ring-gai campus dining room.

The incident that prompted Ms Wilson's accusation occurred while she spoke.

When it came to court the following January, Mr Abbott was flanked by his parents, a legal team including a QC, and seven witnesses.

Advocates for Ms Wilson are to this day flabbergasted at the firepower Mr Abbott wheeled in, which left their under-represented side wilting.

The incident didn't seem to break Mr Abbott's stride, although his second tilt at election to the Student Representative Council (SRC) - which was happening at the same heady time - ended in tears.
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/17/1089694611874.html
 
Ask yourself this folks. If the same allegations had been directed against John Howard, what would your attitude be?

Janet Albrechtsen asks a question I posed some weeks ago:

Had questions arisen about the professional integrity of former prime minister John Howard, this paper would have pursued the matter, just as it pursued many stories that the Howard government didn't much like. The AWB oil-for wheat scandal. Tampa. Children overboard. And one suspects you would have pursued it too, with your trademark steeliness and determination.

Had the current questions concerned Howard, much of the Fairfax press and the ABC would be hurling questions at the PM. Curiously, these same outlets are not very curious at all about your time at Slater & Gordon, even in light of the new information.
 
uvar said:
Oh, here's a new one, if statements later contradicted are lies like A.A. Alfie wants to believe (not that Gillard's statement was contradicted, but you know what I mean).":
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In May Abbott announced that he would never accepted the tainted vote of Craig Thomson. Today he accepted Craig's vote. Twice. (via)[/quote][/QUOTE]

Just to scotch that nonsense you put up ....

The suspended Labor MP Craig Thomson voted with the Opposition to keep the debate going.

Last time that happened the Opposition leader ran from the house to try to negate his vote, but this time other Coalition MPs removed themselves to ensure Mr Thomson's vote did not affect the result.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-21/carbon-tax-pledge-dominates-question-time/4213478
 
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The Australian has published a redacted version of the interview transcript (title: "What Julia told her firm"). I'm not going to comment on it much, except to point out that when they use the following quote to begin the article
PETER GORDON: 'When did you first hear of an interest in acquiring a property for Wilson to live in?'

JULIA GILLARD: '. . . every union has what it refers to as a re-election fund, slush fund, whatever . . .'
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Gillard's answer is actually five pages earlier in reference to a completely different question about Ralph Blewitt, and the first ellipse elides more than half a page of her mostly redacted answer.

Stay classy, The Australian.

I did also like this quote from Gillard:
When I came home and saw the posts and the windows which got done in, done in one day I raised it immediately with Bill the Greek in fairly vociferous tones and said this has just totally buggered up this job.
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I was going to joke that we don't see that kind of language in the Hansard nowadays... but thanks to Mr Oakeshott it has been, at least twice. Heh.

Incidentally, Pickering's quoted phrase from the interview (that Gillard stated she "acted alone") never appears in The Australian's version.
 
Maybe it's off-topic for this thread - though the Gillard allegations are discussed at one point, and there's certainly some talk about lying - but wow, if you weren't watching 7:30 tonight you better catch up. I almost feel sorry for Abbott, but on the other hand he blamed the Olympic dam decision on the carbon tax before admitting he hadn't read BHP's statements about it... and it only went downhill from there.

(The reaction on twitter seems especially one-sided this time.)
 
Interestingly though when this issue was brought up earlier this year (May 20)

year:http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/pm-calls-out-mca-report-author-20120530-1zj6p.html

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has dismissed a Minerals Council of Australia report suggesting BHP Billiton's Olympic Dam expansion project in South Australia is in doubt.

During question time on Wednesday, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott called on Ms Gillard to apologise to South Australians for jeopardising the company's uranium and copper mine expansion by implementing a carbon tax.

But Ms Gillard rejected his call, saying the report was unsurprising because one of its authors was the pre-selected Liberal candidate for the seat of Hume, Angus Taylor.

"He is talking it down," she told the house.
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That "dismissal" and other accusations now seem a lot like they were
a. a lie?
b. untrue?
c. premature?
d. an effort to make the opposition look untruthful?
e. an effort to deflect attention from her carbon tax?
f. all of the above?

Correct answer is "f"
 
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uvar said:
Maybe it's off-topic for this thread - though the Gillard allegations are discussed at one point, and there's certainly some talk about lying - but wow, if you weren't watching 7:30 tonight you better catch up. I almost feel sorry for Abbott, but on the other hand he blamed the Olympic dam decision on the carbon tax before admitting he hadn't read BHP's statements about it... and it only went downhill from there.

(The reaction on twitter seems especially one-sided this time.)
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Thanks for that. Abbott a liar as well as an idiot:

Have you actually read BHP's statements?

TONY ABBOTT: No,
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The electorate is seeing through this clown. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't lead the Coalition to the next election.

Abbott: liar and fool.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
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That "dismissal" and other accusations now seem a lot like they were
a. a lie?
b. untrue?
c. premature?
d. an effort to make the opposition look untruthful?
e. an effort to deflect attention from her carbon tax?
f. all of the above?

Correct answer is "f"
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No, the correct answer is:

g. when the only tool in one's toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.​
 
A.A. Alfie said:
Interestingly though when this issue was brought up earlier this year (May 20)

year:http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/pm-calls-out-mca-report-author-20120530-1zj6p.html



That "dismissal" and other accusations now seem a lot like they were
a. a lie?
b. untrue?
c. premature?
d. an effort to make the opposition look untruthful?
e. an effort to deflect attention from her carbon tax?
f. all of the above?

Correct answer is "f"
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Actually, it's G: None of the above.
 
Akhenaten said:
No, the correct answer is:

g. when the only tool in one's toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.​
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Bzzzz! Wrong!

I even gave you the right answer. Silly sausage. :)

And I don't think you should liken Gillard to a tool. There are some that are rather sensitive about Gillard and tools. It seems the visual offends them somehow. ;)
 
This 7.30 interview will haunt the worst opposition leader ever. What an absolute idiot. Leigh Sales tied him in knots.
 
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