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Julia Gillard - liar

a_unique_person said:
Harrassment via internet is a crime.
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So blogging bad things (that might be true for all we know) is now a crime of harassment? You are not serious?
Please provide some information on this law. It seems we may all be in breach of it. Me for teasing the greens. You for calling people "denier", there would be dozens of examples right here.

a_unique_person said:
The cartoon of Gillard with a strap on dildo reach the depths of sexism.
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Why is it sexism? Surely it is art. :rolleyes:

Do you not remember the Pickering political calendars back in the 80s?
 
Her Grey Eminence said:
It looked very bad for Gillard on Agenda. Although even if true I don't see any path to forcing her to resign over something 17 years old
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Agree; not with the information as it stands now.
If some of the more serious allegations and inferences come to be shown as true (or at least questionable), it may have some additional gravity.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
So blogging bad things (that might be true for all we know) is now a crime of harassment? You are not serious?
Please provide some information on this law. It seems we may all be in breach of it. Me for teasing the greens. You for calling people "denier", there would be dozens of examples right here.



Why is it sexism? Surely it is art. :rolleyes:

Do you not remember the Pickering political calendars back in the 80s?
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Yes, lots of politicians with strap on dildos. It's sexism. A woman dared to be PM. He can't stand the thought.

Which brings me back to my point. The pure venom. You accuse Gillard of spouting venom, the venom directed at her has been astounding. Then you accuse her of it. It's the standard tactic of the bully, moreso when when used against a women, attack and abuse till you get a response, then act astounded that anyone would stand up for themselves.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
It looks like the Wilson scandal that got Glenn Milne and Michael Smith the sack is gathering some traction again.

Gillard, A Crook's Love Slave And Accomplice
http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com.au/

Cambridge's affidavit.
http://pickeringpost.com/mediax/resources/Affidavit2.pdf

Robert MccLelland recently raised this in issue parliament too.


As an additional observation, I wonder how everyone would have responded has (say) John Howard silenced two critics in this fashion. The screams of "fascist" and the like would have been deafening.
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LOL. Milne was always Costello's mouthpiece in that paper, and was pushing for Costello for PM. This was just a convenient excuse to get rid of him, since the Oz is in for a massive staff layoff similar to what The Age has been going through. Gillard can't get anyone fired.
 
a_unique_person said:
LOL. Milne was always Costello's mouthpiece in that paper, and was pushing for Costello for PM. This was just a convenient excuse to get rid of him, since the Oz is in for a massive staff layoff similar to what The Age has been going through. Gillard can't get anyone fired.
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Thank you Captain Yesterday. I posted that a month ago. :boggled:

Now, just to challenge your comments; Milne was removed (or whatever) in October (was it?) last year. What evidence have you that the Australian were shedding journalists back then and it was simply an excuse? (btw, I don't think they are shedding jobs now are they? perhaps you have something to support this too?)

So now we need two (three) things:
- the law that would jail Pickering.
- evidence that the Oz were involved in "massive staff layoffs" and this was an excuse to oust Milne.
- evidence that the Oz , like The Age are in for massive layoffs.

I would bet London to a brick that you can't support any of these claims.

Moreover, what did you think of McLellands speech about this? He is a Labor MP after all.
 
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A.A. Alfie said:
Thank you Captain Yesterday. I posted that a month ago. :boggled:

Now, just to challenge your comments; Milne was removed (or whatever) in October (was it?) last year. What evidence have you that the Australian were shedding journalists back then and it was simply an excuse? (btw, I don't think they are shedding jobs now are they? perhaps you have something to support this too?)

So now we need two (three) things:
- the law that would jail Pickering.
- evidence that the Oz were involved in "massive staff layoffs" and this was an excuse to oust Milne.
- evidence that the Oz , like The Age are in for massive layoffs.

I would bet London to a brick that you can't support any of these claims.

Moreover, what did you think of McLellands speech about this? He is a Labor MP after all.
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That's right. I made a specific point, that you are dodging. About the unprecedented venom directed at Gillard. Yet you accuse her of venom. Unbelievable.
 
So now Paul Kelly is a scoundrel?

So now we need two (three) things:
- the law that would jail Pickering.
- evidence that the Oz were involved in "massive staff layoffs" and this was an excuse to oust Milne.
- evidence that the Oz , like The Age are in for massive layoffs.

I am now accusing you of making things up. Can you provide evidence for these outrageous claims of yours or not?
 
a_unique_person said:
That's right. I made a specific point, that you are dodging. About the unprecedented venom directed at Gillard. Yet you accuse her of venom. Unbelievable.
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Yes, you made a point - you didn't ask me a question.

Her venom was directed at Paul Kelly - a respected journalist. He is not making any accusations, he is giving her the opportunity to respond to some allegations. Her attack on him seemed totally unwarranted and I don't think that was very smart, and it made her seem a little like she is losing control.
 
So now we need two (three) things:
- the law that would jail Pickering.
- evidence that the Oz were involved in "massive staff layoffs" and this was an excuse to oust Milne.
- evidence that the Oz , like The Age are in for massive layoffs.

I now reckon you are knowingly lying, or perhaps you are drunk.
Either way, can you provide evidence for these things or not?
 
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Popcorn anyone?

So now we need two (three) things:
- the law that would jail Pickering.
- evidence that the Oz were involved in "massive staff layoffs" and this was an excuse to oust Milne.
- evidence that the Oz , like The Age are in for massive layoffs.

I now reckon you are knowingly lying, or perhaps you are drunk.
Either way, can you provide evidence for these things or not?
 
a_unique_person said:
In which she asks Kelly just what has he got a problem with, and he has nothing. He's just 'asking questions'. As we well know here, JAQing off is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
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I am a bit puzzled here. A former partner of Slater and Gordon gives an interview to the Australian stating clearly and unequivocally that Julia Gillard went through a formal interview over the AWU slush fund and left the firm as a result.

How on earth could Kelly not put this to her?
 
Her Grey Eminence said:
I am a bit puzzled here. A former partner of Slater and Gordon gives an interview to the Australian stating clearly and unequivocally that Julia Gillard went through a formal interview over the AWU slush fund and left the firm as a result.

How on earth could Kelly not put this to her?
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Exactly.

It is interesting from a psychological perspective to see the lengths that some here will go to defend this (a) politician - and we have a number of pages and people here as an evidence. It seems to me that those who are the most vociferous in their objections are those with a vested or emotional interest in the politics, not the person. Moreover, principles can be damned!

I would also add that much of their input lacks both objectivity and critical thought.

For example, some are so emotionally embroiled in AGW will go to great lengths to defend she that has placed a tax on carbon.
Similarly, some have changed their political party and opinions based entirely on who pays their salary, i.e. as they are fed by the public teat they see their meal ticket in jeopardy.

While there is nothing wrong with self interest - one must have it to survive - it is staggering the hypocrisy that is attached to these individuals and yet, they seem completely oblivious to it.

I wonder how they would respond if the story was about (say) John Howard. :)
 
Her Grey Eminence said:
I am a bit puzzled here. A former partner of Slater and Gordon gives an interview to the Australian stating clearly and unequivocally that Julia Gillard went through a formal interview over the AWU slush fund and left the firm as a result.

How on earth could Kelly not put this to her?
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Here is another statement from S&G

Since then, the managing director of Slater and Gordon, Andrew Grech, has released a statement on the matter.

Mr Grech says Ms Gillard cooperated fully with the internal legal review and it found nothing to contradict the information provided by Ms Gillard.

He says Ms Gillard took leave from the firm to campaign for the Senate in 1995 and resigned the following year when she took up a position as a political advisor.
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That is, she was a friend of someone who has committed fraud, but there is no evidence that she took part in it. The charismatic fraudster is a well known personality type. Gillard would not be the first person to be taken in by one, and suffered from it. S&G are not out to attack Gillard, but to make it clear that from their point of view, these venemous attacks have no substance to them.
 
a_unique_person said:
Here is another statement from S&G

That is, she was a friend of someone who has committed fraud, but there is no evidence that she took part in it. The charismatic fraudster is a well known personality type. Gillard would not be the first person to be taken in by one, and suffered from it. S&G are not out to attack Gillard, but to make it clear that from their point of view, these venemous attacks have no substance to them.
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You hope. :rolleyes:
 
Tony Abbott has promised to return Australia to the "golden age" of the Howard government under his "incoming Coalition government".

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...-golden-age-20120818-24f31.html#ixzz23zaZrk8X
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That's all Abbott has got, the past. The world is rapidly changing, and going backwards is not an option. He also has the hubris to take the Australian voters for granted, and assumes he will win the election. That sort of attitude has been the kiss of death in the past.
 
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