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Judy Wood's "Math"

Hydrogen Cyanide said:
Not any more it seems. I noticed on an earlier thread when I tried to link to her Clemson webpage and it was gone. I checked their directory and she is missing: http://www.ces.clemson.edu/main/directory.pdf

A search at http://www.clemson.edu/phonebook/ also brought up nothing.
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She was an associate professor, and was not picked up for tenure this year. Apparently Clemson prefers to employ engineering professors who actually know something about engineering.
 
Hydrogen Cyanide said:
Not any more it seems. I noticed on an earlier thread when I tried to link to her Clemson webpage and it was gone. I checked their directory and she is missing: http://www.ces.clemson.edu/main/directory.pdf

A search at http://www.clemson.edu/phonebook/ also brought up nothing.
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Yes you are right she doesn't teach there anymore...

Judy Wood, until recently an assistant professor of mechanical engineering at Clemson University, has been cited by conspiracy theorists for her arguments the buildings could not have collapsed as quickly as they did unless explosives were used.
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/8/6/195730.shtml
 
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ktesibios said:
This is the case for a pool game or one of the doodads with the five steel dingleberries, but in the case of the WTC towers, m1 (the mass of the falling upper block) is obviously considerably greater than m2 (the mass of the floor it lands on).
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This is where you make your "mistake". In her model of collapse, each floor is falling independantly, thus each collision is between equal masses. It's ridiculous, I know. I'm tempted to make a MATLAB simulation of her model of the collapse because it would make a pretty picture.
 
Gravy said:
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The point she makes – her whole point – is that the tower collapses should have taken over a minute and a half and could not have happened as observed due to gravity.

Now she posits that gravity's job may have been aided by a Star Wars energy beam.

Why are you CTs so afraid to say "this person is batcrap crazy, this analysis has always been laughably, horribly wrong, and we need to point that out because it's making our "movement" look ridiculous?"
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You said the C-word! They're afraid of it because they might have to revaluate their own sanity.
 
Here is a very simple Python script I put together to model the fall with inelastic collisions. This script treats each floor as an independant object and assumes all floors are equal mass. It assumes all collisions are perfectly inelastic, and that the mass of each floor is added to the mass of the falling debris block. I did put in a term to simulate some mass being lost to the sides with each floor.

This script does not factor in deceleration due to the energy it would take to overcome the structure of the building. I'm not sure how to best add that. I don't claim that this script is particuarily accurate, but I do believe it to be a much more accurate calculation than Judy Wood's.

With the assumptions made in the code, I get a total collapse time of 15.7 seconds, which does appear to be close to what we see on the videos.

Code: 
from math import *

floors = 110.0 #110 stories
impactfloor = 95.0 #collapse initiation floor
floordist = 12.4 #in feet, 1,368 feet divided by 110 floors
gravity = 32.0 #feet per second squared
floormass = 1.0 #assume all floors have the same mass
massloss = 0.05 #amount of mass to fall off to sides on each impact

time = 0.0 #total accumulated collapse time
height = impactfloor * floordist #height of collapse wave
debrismass = (floors - impactfloor) * floormass #mass of debris falling
v = 0.0 #velocity of debris falling

while height > 0:
    #Freefall one floor:
    
    t = (-v + sqrt(v*v + 2.0 * gravity * floordist)) / gravity
    height = height - floordist
    time = time + t
    v = v + gravity * t
    
    #impact next floor
    #Assume perfectly inelastic collision
    #Does not factor in energy to break floor
    
    v = (v * debrismass) / (debrismass + floormass)
    debrismass = (debrismass + floormass) * (1 - massloss)

print time, "seconds"
 
There's an interesting discussion about Judy Wood and her theories by students and alumni (at first, at leadt) of her former Univeristy at the Clemson Talk forums here: http://www.clemsontalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22999

The main debunker ("Jeff the Great") actually works for NIST.

I'm pretty sure that Truthseeker1234 turns up as "Brian" on page 3 - with predictable results.
 
The article also cites former assistant professor of mechanical engineering Judy Wood. Until just recently, she was employed by Clemson, always thought to be an institution of higher learning as opposed to a government propaganda center. Wood is quoted and says it all: "'If the U.S. government is lying about how the buildings came down, anything else they say cannot be believed. So why would they want to tell us an incorrect story if they weren't part of it?'"

The article continues: "At Clemson, Wood did not receive tenure last year, but her former department chair, Imtiaz ul Haque, denies her accusation that it was partly because of her September 11 views. 'Are you blackballed for delving into this topic?' Oh yes,' Wood said. 'And that is why there are so few who do. Most contracts have something to do with some government research lab. So what would that do to you? The consequences are too great for a career. But I made the choice that the truth was more important.'"
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Truth movement experts have no ability to understand their lack of performance in the real world.

It becomes a CT as they loose their jobs because they are nut cases; translation = shown the same great abilities in their jobs as they do in their outstanding research on how beam weapons destroyed the WTC.

If Judy's web site is indicative of her abilities in the class room or her understanding of real science and research. There is no doubt why she will not have a job teaching at Clemson.
 
beachnut said:
Truth movement experts have no ability to understand their lack of performance in the real world.

It becomes a CT as they loose their jobs because they are nut cases; translation = shown the same great abilities in their jobs as they do in their outstanding research on how beam weapons destroyed the WTC.

If Judy's web site is indicative of her abilities in the class room or her understanding of real science and research. There is no doubt why she will not have a job teaching at Clemson.
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From a former student at Clemson, who now works for NIST:

On a personal note, Judy Wood was arguably the dumbest person I've ever met, and by far the most incompetant instructor Clemson has ever hired. My friends in her Statics class learned nothing. She was a terrible lecturer, had no grasp of the concepts involved, was disorganized, unpleasent both inside and outside of class and completely failed to produce any meaningful research while at Clemson.
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http://www.clemsontalk.com/vb/showpost.php?p=531540&postcount=2
 
now I can send my money to CU

I was afraid they had no acedemic standards anymore when Judy showed up teaching
 
oooooooo they have some goodies posting on that site

I loved the way they destroyed 'brians' claims about the station location....but sad that such blatant lying on the part of the 'truth' movement can be brushed aside so easily as if it is somehow acceptable.

If someone had fed me such incorrect information and allowed me to make a fool of myself when using it in a debate, I wouldn't trust the 'pushers' data on anything else.

A bit like Loose change, in fact.......lol
 
I've just posted on the thread to let them know about the beam weapons theory and to invite them over here.
 
MissG is judy wood's pal...they go to conferences together and everything.

Though to begin with, of course, she tried to pass herself off as an impartial source for the hearsay claim that the nist guy had shocked the assembled engineers with his offhand comments about symmetrical collapse.

this is fun!
:D
 
Nice invite maccy........ now we must ask truthseeker about those subway pictures...... muhahahahahaha
 
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