Split Thread Judy Wood and dustification

[jammonius]

By the way, speaking of credibility, why did the ROCKET SCIENTIST duck, dodge and completely fail to respond openly to me? Hadn't you folks ought to consider asking your boy, Rocket Scientist, what he knows about SAIC and ARA?

Hadn't you ought to get an opinion from Rocket Scientist on how is it that SAIC's DEW expert and ARA's materials engineering scientist, who were lead NIST investigators, could sign off on a report that ended its analysis just as the Twin Towers were about to be destroyed, such that what is seen here has never been analyzed by any official investigation:

 

[BigAl]

dtugg,

Why are you shifting the burden of proof, yet again? Do those who support the common myth of 9/11 EVER take up their own cause and provide support for the absurd notion that 19 Arabswth boxcutters could outwit the entire US defense apparatus;

Why are box cutters in the hands of Arabs that were trained in martial arts so unlikely when (a) box cutters were not on the banned list at airport check-in and (b) the hijackers knew that the cockpit doors would be unlocked.

 

[BigAl]

By the way, speaking of credibility, why did the ROCKET SCIENTIST duck, dodge and completely fail to respond openly to me? Hadn't you folks ought to consider asking your boy, Rocket Scientist, what he knows about SAIC and ARA?

Hadn't you ought to get an opinion from Rocket Scientist on how is it that SAIC's DEW expert and ARA's materials engineering scientist, who were lead NIST investigators, could sign off on a report that ended its analysis just as the Twin Towers were about to be destroyed, such that what is seen here has never been analyzed by any official investigation:

The idea that there were directed energy beams at WTC is stupid beyond belief. This is based on both the physics of DEW and what eyewitnesses like me saw. I also have enough university physics to understand the science of directed energy.

You apparently have no science education. Nobody in the Truth Movement, including Woods, has done the math for what their claims would require in the way of energy and equipment.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

By the way, speaking of credibility, why did the ROCKET SCIENTIST duck, dodge and completely fail to respond openly to me? Hadn't you folks ought to consider asking your boy, Rocket Scientist, what he knows about SAIC and ARA?

Hadn't you ought to get an opinion from Rocket Scientist on how is it that SAIC's DEW expert and ARA's materials engineering scientist, who were lead NIST investigators, could sign off on a report that ended its analysis just as the Twin Towers were about to be destroyed, such that what is seen here has never been analyzed by any official investigation:

[qimg]http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/a/terrorism/pics/bubbler.jpg[/qimg]

Can you prove that a DEW can cause a single piece of steel to magically turn to "dust"? Can you show anyone here a YouTube video where scientists conducted tests with a DEW & subjected that energy to steel in order to turn it to "dust"?

Can you possibly have any other explaination for your grand delusions other than making yourself look like a complete fool?

That picture proves NOTHING of steel turning to "dust". You're 100% WRONG again!

 

[jammonius]

You haven't read Farmer's book, have you? All you have is cherry-picked quotes.

He says the Truthers are wrong.

Talk about cherry-picking...

So what is your conclusion about the 9/11 Commission Report, Big Al, do you rely on it and count it as a part of the information that confirms the official myth?

And, do you do so, not because of what it says, but because "the Truthers are wrong" whatever that means?

Note that phrase "the truthers are wrong". Of what value is a statement like that to the substance of what happened on 9/11?

You are being needlessly defensive here Big Al. I do not have anything against you or your position on 9/11. You know where I stand. I assert that Dr. Judy Wood has disclosed how the Twin Towers were destroyed.

You, for your part, may be a part of the Amen chorus who deny that Judy Wood has proven what happened. Fine. Be a part of that chorus if you want to. All I am saying is that you cannot offer up any proof of refutation from any official source because there is none.

Thus, whatever the statement "the truthers are wrong" might mean, it has nothing whatever to do with Dr. Wood because there has been no investigation of what actually happened during the interval of destruction of the WTC complex. None.

--The 9/11 Commission Report is a lie.

--The FEMA Report acknowledged that it was baffled by the destruction of the steel.

--The NIST Report engaged in science fraud by curtailing the investigation to exclude the actual destruction.

That is the truth.

 

[Jackanory]

By the way, speaking of credibility, why did the ROCKET SCIENTIST duck, dodge and completely fail to respond openly to me? Hadn't you folks ought to consider asking your boy, Rocket Scientist, what he knows about SAIC and ARA?

Hadn't you ought to get an opinion from Rocket Scientist on how is it that SAIC's DEW expert and ARA's materials engineering scientist, who were lead NIST investigators, could sign off on a report that ended its analysis just as the Twin Towers were about to be destroyed, such that what is seen here has never been analyzed by any official investigation:

[qimg]http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/a/terrorism/pics/bubbler.jpg[/qimg]

Typical stuff from a misinformed gullible truther. You just cant help it can you? You do realise that the last 3 posts you made all refute your own theory right? I am sure you have more. Please read it before you post it. Classic self debunking stuff. Almost as good as Mr Misner (Ultima1 for those that forgot).

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Thus, whatever the statement "the truthers are wrong" might mean, it has nothing whatever to do with Dr. Wood because there has been no investigation of what actually happened during the interval of destruction of the WTC complex. None.

--The 9/11 Commission Report is a lie.

--The FEMA Report acknowledged that it was baffled by the destruction of the steel.

--The NIST Report engaged in science fraud by curtailing the investigation to exclude the actual destruction.

That is the truth.

And if there was a new investigation that said that DEW's don't exist & couldn't have been used on 9/11, what would you say then? Would you admit that it's a crazy theory cooked up by crazy people?

But then again you are a bit crazy yourself aren't ya?

 

[BigAl]

Talk about cherry-picking...

Listen to Farmer speak in this book interview. He says the Twoofers are nuts. Yes, some people lied to the Commission. The Commission was able to see those lies and show us something close to the truth.

John Farmer, 9/11 Commission senior counsel, explains how the truth of
9/11 was obfuscated by a false version of events that the government
presented to Congress, the 9/11 Commission, and the media. Drawing on
newly released records, Farmer gives a comprehensive account of the
events of that day in The Ground Truth: The Untold Story of an America
Under Attack on 9/11.

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/2009/09/11/segments/140472​

So what is your conclusion about the 9/11 Commission Report, Big Al, do you rely on it and count it as a part of the information that confirms the official myth?

Yes, in in part. Even before 9/11/2001 I knew that bin Laden was killing Americans at every possibility. I've read everything in both these lists. You can, too. Click on the link to get to all the items in the table of contents.

The 19 Arab Islamist Hijackers Edited 7/16/09

http://911links.webs.com/19Hijackers.htm

Table of Contents
[1] Reading list for all the evidence we have about the hijackers.
[2] The martyrdom videos made by 7 of the hijackers.
[3] Arabic spoken in cockpits of hijacked planes.
[4] Boarding manifest for Flt11 that shows hijacker's names
[5] The names of the hijackers
[6] BBC on the names and reporting of the hijackers
[7] Answers to Zeitgeist The Movie: - Flight Manifests
[8] Status of Hijacker DNA - (2009)
[9] Answer to "At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive"
[10] bin Laden Connections to the 19 hijackers
[11] News Report on hijackers as of Nov 2, 2001
[12] Hanjour as a pilot
[13] Photo and DNA ID match of some of the hijackers.
[14] Identification of the Flt 77 hijackers
[15] Pictures of the Hanjour and another hijacker boarding the airplanes.
[16] Details of airline tickets for some of the hijackers.
[17] 166-page 9/11 Commission document contains lots of information on hijacker visa applications, with a particular focus on Mohamed Atta.
[18] This 9/11 Commission document includes an INS analysis of Abdulaziz al-Omari's passport,

And

Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda Updated 5/22/09


http://911links.webs.com/index.htm

Table Of Contents

[1] NEWS (Jan 2001) Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
[2] (Jan 2001) ObL Tells Reporter that US attacks are comming.
[3] New York Times reports about al Queda about 89 times prior to 9/11/2001
[4] bin Laden quotes
[5] Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
[6] 1996: bin Laden declares war on America.
[7] ObL attacks on America prior to 2001 listed
[8] Specific attack warnings
[9] Bibliography
Al Qaeda Now - Understanding today's terrorists - Ed. by Greenberg
9/11 Comission Report Ch. 6.3
The Commission - The Uncensored History Of The 9/11 Investigation by Shenon, Philip
Messages to the world; The statements of Osama bin Laden translated by Bruce Lawrence
Congressional Report for Congress; Al Qaede: Statements and Evolving Ideology
The Power of Nightmares VIDEO (3 parts)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
The Shadow Factory - The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 by Bamford
PBS Nova Spy Factory
Ghost Wars by Cole
The Looming Tower - Wright
The bin Ladens by Cole
Spying Blind by Amy Zegart.

[10] 1998 ObL Fatwa calling for attack on the US
[11] Complete 9/11 timeline
[12] Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
[13] US Government "Wanted" poster for biin Ladem
[14] KSM's indictment document

 

[jammonius]

Hey twinstead,

Not one mention has been made of anything, anything at all, supporting the common myth from any source, other than someone's typical burden shifting plow involving rank speculation about how boxcutters could result in 4 successful hijackings in one day.

No proof whatever.

[OK, Big Al posted ONE post with a link to some informal internet posting that he was able to get in just as I was posting this. That is rich, in and of itself. One post with some assertion of some kind of proof blaming OBL for 9/11. OBL, from a cave in Afghanistan, which the word "remote" results in an understatement of the distance away and the impossibility that OBL could have had anything to do with 9/11, ever, not to mention that we do not even know OBL was even in Afganistan, or even alive, for that matter. All OBL musings are is speculation, pure and simple, Big Al. Deal with it. Big Al's source includes references to newspaper clippings and to claims that individual posters have the "manifest" of passenger lists, as though such informal claims count as evidence. Look, posters, passenger manifests are among the most carefully prepared documents there are. They are essential, in case anything happens, to insurance claims and notifying next of kin. There are no officially validated passenger manifests for any 9/11 flight. Most people are willing to assume that such manifests can be produced; and, maybe they can be. But, to date, they have not been shown to exist. Posters here are not going to respond to this. Just watch and see.]

But hey, we know what the real issue here is; namely, that there is a strong, one might say, overriding emotional need to assume that those we entrust with power would not deceive us in such a fundamental way and kill us and then blame it on someone else.

Posters, I'm asking for the second time. Can we deal with the real issue now?

Look, it's obvious that the game here is for me to post up proof and for you folks to shift the burden and NEVER, EVER post up proof supporting the common myth. You folks will not do that. So, why not deal with the real issue; that of the emotion of 9/11 and why it is necessary to accept the common myth without proof and to reject DEW assertions, no matter how much proof is offered?

Nothing is going to change, so may as well deal with the real issue which centers on the following grouping:

THOSE HAVING AN EMOTIONAL NEED TO SUPPORT THE COMMON MYTH, NO MATTER WHAT

-and-

THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO QUESTION AUTHORITY.

That is the real dichotomy here posters.

 

[Thunder]

THOSE HAVING AN EMOTIONAL NEED TO SUPPORT THE COMMON MYTH, NO MATTER WHAT

-and-

THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO QUESTION AUTHORITY.

That is the real dichotomy here posters.

no, it is between those who refuse to accept the truth, due to political and psychological needs to hate their own government..

and those who accent the truth.

I would have loved for Bush to have been behind 9-11. Then he could have been impeached. But just cause I WANTED it to be so, doesn't make it so.

This is where truthers leave reality. They turn what they want to be true...into truth.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Hey twinstead,

Not one mention has been made of anything, anything at all, supporting the common myth from any source, other than someone's typical burden shifting plow involving rank speculation about how boxcutters could result in 4 successful hijackings in one day.

No proof whatever.

But hey, we know what the real issue here is; namely, that there is a strong, one might say, overriding emotional need to assume that those we entrust with power would not deceive us in such a fundamental way and kill us and then blame it on someone else.

Posters, I'm asking for the second time. Can we deal with the real issue now?

Look, it's obvious that the game here is for me to post up proof and for you folks to shift the burden and NEVER, EVER post up proof supporting the common myth. You folks will not do that. So, why not deal with the real issue; that of the emotion of 9/11 and why it is necessary to accept the common myth without proof and to reject DEW assertions, no matter how much proof is offered?

Nothing is going to change, so may as well deal with the real issue which centers on the following grouping:

THOSE HAVING AN EMOTIONAL NEED TO SUPPORT THE COMMON MYTH, NO MATTER WHAT

-and-

THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO QUESTION AUTHORITY.

That is the real dichotomy here posters.

http://www.america.gov/st/webchat-english/2009/April/20090501132747atlahtnevel4.168338e-02.html

April 29, 2009

Al Qaida Confirms It Carried Out the September 11 Attacks

The link above also includes KSM who is being put on trial for the 9/11 Attacks. The link supports that KSM & Osama Bin Laden were the masterminds behind the attacks.

There's nothing you can prove Jammonius! BTW: I know you're a girl/woman!

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Jammonius,

This blows your theories out of the water:

http://www.america.gov/st/webchat-english/2009/April/20090501132747atlahtnevel4.168338e-02.html

April 2002 Interview

Several months later, senior al Qaida official Khalid Sheikh Mohammed also confirmed that al Qaida had carried out the attacks. In April 2002, Al Jazeera reporter Yosri Fouda interviewed Khalid, who proposed the September 11 scheme to bin Laden, and Ramzi Binalshibh, who played a key role in the preparation for 9/11. Fouda asked Khalid if al Qaida was responsible for the September 11 attacks and Khalid confirmed that it was:

Fouda summoned every thread of experience, looked Khalid in the eye and asked: ‘Did you do it [the September 11 attacks]?’ But Khalid didn’t flinch.

‘No filming today,’ he declared, ‘and you do not have to worry about a camera or a cameraman for tomorrow. We will provide everything.’

Ramzi added his own detail of the arrangements: ‘You will be going straight from here to your flight whenever we are done.’

Then, with little fanfare, Khalid got down to business by making an announcement that hit Fouda like a heavyweight punch. ‘I am the head of the al Qaida military committee,’ he said, ‘and Ramzi is the coordinator of the Holy Tuesday operation. And yes, we did it.’

Proof positive that it was Al Qaida, KSM & OBL that perpatraited the 9/11 Attacks.

Now what's that again about DEW's being used?

 

[BigAl]

Hey twinstead,

Not one mention has been made of anything, anything at all, supporting the common myth from any source, other than someone's typical burden shifting plow involving rank speculation about how boxcutters could result in 4 successful hijackings in one day.

No proof whatever.

[OK, Big Al posted ONE post with a link to some informal internet posting that he was able to get in just as

Those are MY web pages and my notes for the reading I've done in this area for the last 20 years. Follow the links and learn.

That would be one post with hundreds of individual citations, many of which are quotes from bin Laden prior to 9/11/2001 where he declares war on the U.S. Here it is again. Follow the link to links to the cited items. It's all here, right back to primary source.

The 19 Arab Islamist Hijackers Edited 7/16/09

http://911links.webs.com/19Hijackers.htm

Table of Contents
[1] Reading list for all the evidence we have about the hijackers.
[2] The martyrdom videos made by 7 of the hijackers.
[3] Arabic spoken in cockpits of hijacked planes.
[4] Boarding manifest for Flt11 that shows hijacker's names
[5] The names of the hijackers
[6] BBC on the names and reporting of the hijackers
[7] Answers to Zeitgeist The Movie: - Flight Manifests
[8] Status of Hijacker DNA - (2009)
[9] Answer to "At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive"
[10] bin Laden Connections to the 19 hijackers
[11] News Report on hijackers as of Nov 2, 2001
[12] Hanjour as a pilot
[13] Photo and DNA ID match of some of the hijackers.
[14] Identification of the Flt 77 hijackers
[15] Pictures of the Hanjour and another hijacker boarding the airplanes.
[16] Details of airline tickets for some of the hijackers.
[17] 166-page 9/11 Commission document contains lots of information on hijacker visa applications, with a particular focus on Mohamed Atta.
[18] This 9/11 Commission document includes an INS analysis of Abdulaziz al-Omari's passport,
And

Quote:
Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda Updated 5/22/09


http://911links.webs.com/index.htm

Table Of Contents

[1] NEWS (Jan 2001) Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
[2] (Jan 2001) ObL Tells Reporter that US attacks are comming.
[3] New York Times reports about al Queda about 89 times prior to 9/11/2001
[4] bin Laden quotes
[5] Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
[6] 1996: bin Laden declares war on America.
[7] ObL attacks on America prior to 2001 listed
[8] Specific attack warnings
[9] Bibliography
Al Qaeda Now - Understanding today's terrorists - Ed. by Greenberg
9/11 Comission Report Ch. 6.3
The Commission - The Uncensored History Of The 9/11 Investigation by Shenon, Philip
Messages to the world; The statements of Osama bin Laden translated by Bruce Lawrence
Congressional Report for Congress; Al Qaede: Statements and Evolving Ideology
The Power of Nightmares VIDEO (3 parts)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
The Shadow Factory - The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 by Bamford
PBS Nova Spy Factory
Ghost Wars by Cole
The Looming Tower - Wright
The bin Ladens by Cole
Spying Blind by Amy Zegart.

[10] 1998 ObL Fatwa calling for attack on the US
[11] Complete 9/11 timeline
[12] Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
[13] US Government "Wanted" poster for biin Ladem
[14] KSM's indictment document

 

[Jackanory]

Hey twinstead,

Look, it's obvious that the game here is .

A 'game'. Socks v Shills

Shills are winning by 9 years, with evidence that the socks cant overcome and with men behind bars who admit they commited the crime by hyjacking planes and using them as weapons. The 'game' is over.

 

[The Big Dog]

Posters, I'm asking for the second time. Can we deal with the real issue now?

Look, it's obvious that the game here is for me to post up proof and for you folks to shift the burden and NEVER, EVER post up proof supporting the common myth. You folks will not do that. So, why not deal with the real issue; that of the emotion of 9/11 and why it is necessary to accept the common myth without proof and to reject DEW assertions, no matter how much proof is offered?

Nothing is going to change, so may as well deal with the real issue which centers on the following grouping:

THOSE HAVING AN EMOTIONAL NEED TO SUPPORT THE COMMON MYTH, NO MATTER WHAT

-and-

THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO QUESTION AUTHORITY.

That is the real dichotomy here posters.

Well you are forgetting the third group, the Bat **** Crazy:

"The relationship between 9/11, the Hutchison Effect, Field Effects and data regarding Hurricane and
Weather Modification is introduced. No firm conclusions are drawn, data is merely presented to illustrate
where highly significant common themes and patterns seem to be present. For example, a short comparison
is drawn between some of the effects seen with the materials in collision (caused by the effects of Tornados
and hurricanes) with the anomalous changes in materials seen with Hutchison Effect. Apparent levitation
effects seen in some instances are also highlighted."

Anyhow, you were talking about Judy Wood? DO go on!

 

[bill smith]

A 'game'. Socks v Shills

Shills are winning by 9 years, with evidence that the socks cant overcome and with men behind bars who admit they commited the crime by hyjacking planes and using them as weapons. The 'game' is over.

No it's not Jack Sweetie. Not yet anyway.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

No it's not Jack Sweetie. Not yet anyway.

Actually it's been over since you Truthers decided to step into the realm of paranoia. Oh and that "mountains of evidence" your people claim to have, why haven't you Truthers been able to present it to any nation in the world? I'm sure Russia & China would just love to see what evidence you Truthers have, but then again you Truthers would rather not show any evidence which you have, that in itself is a conspiracy.

 

[Carll68]

Moron

Hey twinstead,---drivel drivel drivel

Hey big brain.....are you truly this uneducated? Me thinks you are a troll, because no one can be as dumb as you 8+ years after 9/11

The terrorists didnt just utilize box cutters genius...they gave the passengers and surviving crew members the impression that they had bombs strapped to them, and that if they co-operated, all would be safe. it was the heroes of flight 93 that figured out this con as reports trickled in to them on the days events.

Are you special needs?

Also, they were not cave dwellers..that is the most misguided moronic comment truthers spew. They in fact were highly educated, expertly disciplined, exceptionally funded and universally motivated men. OBL was a muti millionaire..or did you not know this either?

Also, THE GROUND TRUTH does not just exist on the 'interwebs'. it's a real book on store shelves and in library aisles. Your delusional ramblings on this topic only serve to show how severely stunted your research is, and how misguided you are in general. Farmer thinks and stated that the 9/11 Commission report is a rousing success, and the books details the obstacles they faced, and how they cut through them to present the official story, and how that story is a highly accurate account of the events despite the resistance of some branches to release information.

You only complain about people asking for evidence to support your tripe for one reason and one reason only:

YOU HAVE NONE.

Please seek help in your pathetic life and pursue an actual education.

 

[Carll68]

You are so misguided in fact, that you just posted that you think everything fits neatly into 1 or 2 boxes.

You typed:
"Nothing is going to change, so may as well deal with the real issue which centers on the following grouping:

THOSE HAVING AN EMOTIONAL NEED TO SUPPORT THE COMMON MYTH, NO MATTER WHAT

-and-

THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO QUESTION AUTHORITY.

You are so simple minded that you fail to see the error of your very own idiotic ramblings.

All intelligent people are more than willing to questions authority. Yet, when those questions are answered and those answers make not only sense, but in doing so are backed up by science, evidence and research, we see no reason to believe the mumbling mess of delusions spewed by uneducated, clueless angst riddled morons who get there information only from biased sources and equally incompetent idiots on the internet.

I think at some point in your life you may have been on the right track..then stupid happened.

 

[TruthersLie]

I love arguments from personal incredulity and ignorance.

dtugg,

Why are you shifting the burden of proof, yet again? Do those who support the common myth of 9/11 EVER take up their own cause and provide support for the absurd notion that 19 Arabswth boxcutters could outwit the entire US defense apparatus

This is one of my favorite of all truther claims. "it was just 19 arabs with boxcutters blah blah blah."

You obviously have NO IDEA what a determined person with a box cutter can do to you. I would LOVE to see you go into a small room with someone with a boxcutter...Just make sure your have very good medical insurance.

Can you fly a plane or fight back rambo with a cut throat?

I mean what were the major airlines policies and procedures for hijickings prior to 9/11? Do you know? Usually they were to DO WHAT THE HIJACKER WANTED IN CASE THERE WAS A BOMB.

But rambo here would have fought them off with just his left toe. He would have acted. Yup. He wouldn't have been caught by stupid arabs with boxcutters. Yup.

Personal incredulity rocks.

(if you want to meet people who think box cutters can be used as weapons, I'd be glad to introduce you to a few. They are easy to find (most extremely poor countries criminals carry boxcutters... go figure)

Now lets move on to your other shining example of personal ignorance. The defeated the US defense aparatus. yes they did. Their attacks were BRILLIANT. They used the system against itself. They did the one thing which no one was prepared for. A coordinated attack that happened in such a short time. By all means please tell us how many jets were on alert across the us on 9/11. It should be easy. Please tell us which fighters were available from which locations and could intercept the hijacked jets. It is just a simple time and distance problem. Feel free.

fail

; and, after that, no one finds it necessary to either investigate, much less hold anyone accountable for such a glaring failure?

More lies. It was investigated. And instead of making a scapegoat of individual people for a massive goat ****, they did something MUCH WORSE. They blamed the entire system for failing to protec the people of the US. The 9/11 CR was an indictment of the entire system.

you should actually try to read the things you datamine.

And, the degree of disengenuity in your post is outrageous. Always shifting the burden of proof. Almost no one defends the 9/1 Commission Report. Just last year, 2009, one of the chief authors of the report published a book basically castigating the entire process as A BIG LIE.

Ah... more truther lies. Unfortunately that is NOT what that book was about. And the author does not feel that the entire process was a "big lie" You should actually try to read the things you datamine.

Why should you, dtugg, be deemed to be ignorant of that fact, such that someone has to prove to you the 9/11 Commission Report was a total lie?

So you don't have a specific example of how the 9/11 CR LIED. Got it. Thank you for playing.