Jowenko sticks by his statement. (Audio from yesterday)

parmanides said:
hmm, why would I ever be suspicious of a GOVERNMENT report devised to asses the details of a potential GOVERNMENT sponsored terrorist act??:confused:
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You do realize that the people involved in the investigation of the WTC1 and WTC2 collapses weren't all government employees, right?

http://wtc.nist.gov/solicitations/

Quite a few of them were from academia and the private sector.
 
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Miragememories said:
It's unfortunate that all the people in LC and JREF are so comfortably hidden behind aliases and computer screens. We are real people with families and want to live out our lives like everyone else.

The damn internet and one-dimensional text communication makes it so easy to turn us into adversaries.

Too bad it's so hard to drop our guards and have truly open communication without fear of being bashed in the process.
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I agree, sometimes it's hard to do anything online that doesn't turn into a flamewar, and as a result not much actual communication takes place.

Miragememories, just hypothetically assuming Jowenko is right, and WTC7 was demolished intentionally and WTC1 and 2 were not - what are the implications for the Truth movement? It seems to me that, although this is a piece of evidence that can't be too lightly dismissed, taken as a whole it suggests that nobody was guilty of anything more than demolishing an empty building that would have required major repairs or demolition anyway. Do you have a realistic scenario in which there is evidence of anything worse?

Dave
 
parmanides said:
if you like your reality black and white Quad4 then yes.

me, i like to use science AND see its limitations

Its just not my religion reverend
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The science method has worked for aeons and the results are used politically, not the other way around. When it is done wrong, the process within exposes the frauds either immediately or over time.

You dont even know what you dont know. Dont embaress yourself further.
 
Miragememories said:
I can assure you T.A.M. "cut me and I will bleed."

Bully me and it's another matter.

We are all hiding alias personas and while it can be fun it ignores the fact that we are all real people living in the real world.

I love my family as much as I'm sure you love yours and I am well aware that the subject that we wrestle over is an ugly thing...wish it wasn't so..I would rather tussle over sports teams or favourite movies.

May you prove me an idiot...I wish it so in spite of my convistions.

MM
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Your lying. You dont want proof. You just want mystery and accusations, aparent deception and a handle that you be known as the shining light in all of it.

Your wrong. Get it? Prove any of the official reports wrong and you will get unseen magnitudes of adoration from the world for exposing the lies and bringing thousands and thousands of lying engineers and NWO agents to justice. All the resulting structural building regulations that have changed since will be null and void because some legend of the cyber scooby doo cracked the case!

Do you enjoy sado masochistic mental anguish?
 
Miragememories said:
Given a few years since he first declared that opinion, he followed up with a study of the WTC7 building plans, as well as had the opportunity to study all the information available about the WTC7 collapse from FEMA and NIST, as well as media accounts and firefighter eyewitness testimonials.
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Where did he say he studied the FEMA and NIST reports? And years? It's only been five months since the ZEMBLA episode.
 
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