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smartcooky said:
Likewise.

I used the word once when I was about 12... that got me confined to my bedroom for the weekend.

Now I use the word rarely, and exclusively to bait racists; never as a pejorative.
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And yet it doesn't actually bait the racists at all. All it does is make the rest of us uncomfortable. The only people you're offending are the people on your own side.
 
Emily's Cat said:
And yet it doesn't actually bait the racists at all.
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I have managed to embarrass racists into not using the term by doing precisely what I do here, put the word into their mouths. It reminds them that this is what they really think and mean when they try to be clever with weasel words and dog whistles. That success encourages me to continue to do it.

Emily's Cat said:
All it does is make the rest of us uncomfortable.
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Sorry you feel that way, but I can't help it if your comprehension is not up to the task.

Can I ask who are you speaking for when you say "the rest of us"?

Emily's Cat said:
The only people you're offending are the people on your own side.
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IME, this is clearly not the case
 
“Man comes out of a single parent home, educates himself and rises up and becomes the President of the United States, and you ask him for his birth certificate, because you can’t take your knee off our neck.”

Al Sharpton eulogy at the memorial for George Floyd.
 
Thermal said:
PJ Denyer. Please consider the context:

A poster commented that they heard the n word bantered around in the all-white place that they worked, and presumed the same lily white uniformity applied to me and my workplace.
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No, the presumption wasn't about the skin color of your workplace but rather the mindset behind the use of the word being similar. I mean, you said your guys use the term in a joking manner because times have changed. But the guys flying Confederate flags can also use the term in a joking manner, so I guess that makes it ok. Especially if they can claim to have a black friend, right?

Thermal said:
I responded that my crew has been jokingly referred to as UN Const, because of its notable diversity. That descriptor had always tickled my funny bone. We are not exactly a pale bunch.
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Notable being...4 languages? I bet they could have scraped that many together in my previously lilly-white work force, what with the Polish and Hungarian ethnicities, not to mention relative proximity to French Canada.

Thermal said:
Look at your responses. You are trying to read way, way to much into what was being said. Maybe take a moment to reflect on why you were twisting it around and making such a strange issue out of it.
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What was being said was that people were going to jump out and say "just using that word doesn't prove McMichaels was a racist!" And in response, you jumped up and said hey, the guys in my construction crew use it, times have changed.

I will commend you for finally dropping the whole nonsensical 'if Arbery touched one toe off the pavement, then the guys chasing him with cars pickup trucks and guns would have been completely stymied' line, though. Thanks.

edited with the new to me info that both groups were in trucks that can more easily handle going over a curb after the guy they've been chasing and banging into for 7 minutes already.
 
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Transcript of the preliminary hearing

Some relevant parts that I've not yet seen discussed, or which haven't had the details:

Jesse Evans: (32:51)
Were either of the McMichaels the 911 caller for that initial call about the structure?

Richard Dial: (32:57)
No. The person that called was Matt Albany, neither Travis or Greg and McMichael has called 911 at that point.

Jesse Evans: (33:05)
And that’s what I want to be clear on. So my follow up question to you is, when the defendants, the McMichaels armed themselves with this revolver and shotgun, did they make a 911 call before going after Mr. Arbery?

Richard Dial: (33:17)
No, sir. They did not.

Jesse Evans: (33:20)
So there’s no 911 call initially by them as they gave chase?

Richard Dial: (33:24)
That’s correct.
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Jesse Evans: (35:31)
So at that point, Roddie Bryan makes the decision to enter his residence, correct?

Richard Dial: (35:35)
Yes.

Jesse Evans: (35:35)
Get his keys.

Richard Dial: (35:36)
Yes.

Jesse Evans: (35:37)
And then what kind of vehicle does he get in to join the pursuit of Mr. Arbery, the deceased victim?

Richard Dial: (35:42)
He is in a 2018 Chevy Silverado, gray in color.

Jesse Evans: (35:47)
At this point in time, based on our best evidence has any 911 call been placed by either the McMichaels or the Bryan?

Richard Dial: (35:53)
No. None have.
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Richard Dial: (01:07:10)
Greg McMichael, pretty much relates on the body cam footage and then later on, whenever there’s, he actually is interviewed on camera by the Glenn County Police Department, he makes admissions to seeing Mr. Arbery running down the roadway. His statement to the effect is he didn’t know Mr. Arbery had stolen anything or not, but he had a gut feeling that Mr. Arbery may have been responsible for thefts that were in the neighborhood previously. And he actually, I think he actually says gut, his instinct told him that.
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Richard Dial: (01:13:48)
Yes. Mr. Bryan said that after the shooting took place before police arrival, while Mr. Aubrey was on the ground, that he heard Travis McMichael made the statement, “******* ******.”
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Jesse Evans: (01:15:14)
Okay, and specifically, have you acquired a jail call where any of the McMichaels refer to Mr. Bryan in a favorable way?

Richard Dial: (01:15:23)
I have. There in a jail call that my agency obtained and reviewed, Greg McMichael was on the phone with a caller. The caller asked him about Mr. Bryan. At first, Mr. McMichael says he can’t talk about it, and then he says that Mr. Bryan’s an ally.
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That's all there is in this transcript, but there must be more as there's no reference to the Confederate flag on the toolbox, or McMichael's statement about why he loves his job, or about alleged racist slurs on social media posts.
 
smartcooky said:
Are you trying to lure me into copping a yellow card by naming usernames?
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Why would you be carded? You've happily thrown the epithet around, willy nilly, but now your getting all coy.

This is your chance to shine! This is your opportunity to evidence how you taught those racists a lesson that "embarrassed" [them] "into not using the term".!
 
I Am The Scum said:
While your statement has the appearance of a general insight into an undesirable facet of human nature, it is instead an exposure of some weird tic you have.

Seriously, I have never once in my life looked at a black person and just reflexively thought of the n-word. The very notion is completely bizarre to me.
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I think for some people, the way their brains are wired, if they hear about something being a taboo this causes them to think about it more.

As for me, I don't think about or use the N word very often - sometimes in jokes with other racists, but there are other terms which are a lot more fun / original / amusing.

Anyway, isn't it wild to think back to when Ahmaud Arbery was a big story? Now it's like "who?"
 
bluesjnr said:
Why would you be carded? You've happily thrown the epithet around, willy nilly, but now your getting all coy.

This is your chance to shine! This is your opportunity to evidence how you taught those racists a lesson that "embarrassed" [them] "into not using the term".!
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Because rule 12 applies if one names forum members, or even makes it clear which forum members one is naming. I thought that was common knowledge here?
 
Skeptic Tank said:
I think for some people, the way their brains are wired, if they hear about something being a taboo this causes them to think about it more.

As for me, I don't think about or use the N word very often - sometimes in jokes with other racists, but there are other terms which are a lot more fun / original / amusing.

Anyway, isn't it wild to think back to when Ahmaud Arbery was a big story? Now it's like "who?"
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Why would there be as much public attention now? The three murderers have been arrested and charged. It's not really going to be in the news until they plead guilty or go to trial, which is likely to be months.

The thrust of the original story, that a murder was swept under the rug, is no longer relevant.
 
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wareyin said:
Because rule 12 applies if one names forum members, or even makes it clear which forum members one is naming. I thought that was common knowledge here?
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Here's an example of the poster wareyin using the phrase "common knowledge".

I've highlighted it for you.

Have I broken rule 12?
 
wollery said:
Here's an example of the poster wareyin using the phrase "common knowledge".

I've highlighted it for you.

Have I broken rule 12?
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That wasn't the question asked nor the answer given. People here have been carded for calling a member a racist. The first question was "Which racists are using the term on ISF?" The answer was that naming names would get one carded. That's the rule 12 break.

So far as I know, only one forum member admits to being a racist, and he is the only member we are allowed to call a racist.
 
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