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Jobs That AI Will Replace. Very Soon!

JoeMorgue said:
Okay fair point. Fear of being replaced by new tech hasn't exactly born out historically speaking.

I'll amend that to people who mocked the fears (justified or not) of being replaced by machines when it was blue collar factory workers and truckers now having a different reaction when it's ARTISTS! (Flourish) and actors and writers possibly being replaced is, again not universal but a subtext in a lot of this.
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Also several IT roles, especially in the Service Delivery area. As a guy I respect said "We've done computerization. Now we're doing computerization of computerization" and a lot of the people in nice safe "I'll reject changes like my manager and his manager before him" jobs are in for bad news.
And yeah, my first job in 1984 someone told me my job would be obsolete in a couple of years as "magic bullet product" would do it all. Nope, now I had the equivalent of a lawn mower instead of a scythe so I could do my job and look at doing it better and other stuff. And on and on.
 
Perfect job for AI - company for the lonely. The number of times I've called elderly people and have been on the call for an hour or so is staggering. All they want is a chat.
 
The Atheist said:
Two of the biggest white-collar sectors who should be studying for their barista qualifications right now are those at banks and insurance companies.
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I can't think of a worse industry to be in right now. Humans shouldn't be used as glorified adding machines.

Engineering, too, will be changed out of all recognition. Who needs 20 traffic engineers, when you have one computer doing the same job much fast and better than the team of professionals costing $200k each?
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"Hey ChatGPT, your bad planning caused a 20% increase in traffic accidents. Prepare to be sued for $100 billion!"

How do you think traffic engineers currently do the job, with protractors and slide rules?

Given our slavish devotion to the Friedman Doctrine, companies will be falling over themselves to get rid of people and invest in machines.
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I'm not so sure about that. In this day and age, why do we still have skyscrapers full of offices?

Advertising agencies? Who needs 'em? A single AI computer will devise a campaign that works without human input. We know how easy it is to persuade people, thanks to my pal Robert Mercer and Cambridge Analytica.
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Advertising still needs creativity to be more successful than the competition. AI is a long way from replacing humans there.

The next ten years are going to see a complete change in employment dynamics, and white-collar workers are going to be a dying breed.
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One can hope, but I doubt it.

OpenAI’s ChatGPT Reportedly Costs $100,000 a Day to Run

I could employ over 100 traffic engineers for the price of running one AI that is useless for the job. I would probably need 100 traffic engineers just to train it, another 100 to check that it was doing the job properly, and 100 lawyers to handle all the torts. And they would all want more money for dealing with an AI.
 
welshdean said:
Perfect job for AI - company for the lonely. The number of times I've called elderly people and have been on the call for an hour or so is staggering. All they want is a chat.
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They should join forums like this one. There are many people who would be willing to discuss almost any topic.
 
welshdean said:
Perfect job for AI - company for the lonely. The number of times I've called elderly people and have been on the call for an hour or so is staggering. All they want is a chat.
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Early on I saw a report on Alexa from parents of autistic children who noted that she was an excellent companion for them as she did not mind if she was asked the same question over and over and yet show no frustration.

As an elderly person (but not hugely lonely) I just asked Alexa "If I was lonely would she tell me a story? She replied that my text to speech app was not loaded and I had no books in my library. Then she suggested on the screen a joke and that I ask, "Why beavers are the best story tellers?". I did but am not telling.
 
Yeah but socially that is super problematic.

People can already get like half of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs with a 200 dollar Chromebook and a 50 dollar a month internet connections. What happens when they can get all of them?
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yeah but socially that is super problematic.

People can already get like half of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs with a 200 dollar Chromebook and a 50 dollar a month internet connections. What happens when they can get all of them?
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What?

Physical- not provided by pc
Safety- not provided by pc
Love- not provided by pc (unless you're into that)
Self Esteem- not provided by pc
Self actualization- not provided by pc.

The best you could hope for is a heavily watered down simulation of a couple of them, or a totally ineffective comparison, like saying safety is provided by ordering a security system online.

Plus if you spend $200 for a Chromebook, you got ripped.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yeah but socially that is super problematic.

People can already get like half of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs with a 200 dollar Chromebook and a 50 dollar a month internet connections. What happens when they can get all of them?
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But we know we have (at least in the UK) a problem with people who are unable to regularly have social interactions. The problem of loneliness especially in housebound folk is endemic.

I really do see that a "chatty" AI assistant device that responds like a person - albeit always a level headed person - that can initiate conversations could be very useful in helping folk who are lonely. We recommend getting a pet for people to help with loneliness so I don't think alleviating a problem like loneliness and lack of social interactions requires other people.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Healthcare is more complicated than people think. Healthcare data is much more complicated than people think. However complicated you think it is, multiply it. Then multiply it again. And once more. It's never as easy as it sounds from outside.
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True, but a system that helps you perform an accurate self-diagnosis would go a long way towards reducing pressure on doctors.

You don't want an AI for that though. Like a doctor, it just puts a middleman between you and what you need to know.

One application that an AI would be ideal for is scamming. You think you are talking to a real person, but it's actually just an algorithm designed to clean out your bank account. Lonely old people would be ideal marks.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Someone at my workplace is actually attempting to set up something along these lines. Not AI, but wants to get "all the symptoms" of every patient visit in the database, then use those to steer the patient to particular doctors "who treat those symptoms". It's not going to work because "symptoms" aren't recorded at all -- patient "reason for visit" isn't symptoms, and diagnoses aren't symptoms, and I won't even get started on the madness of attempting to connect a provider's board certifications to a patient's visit. Healthcare is more complicated than people think. Healthcare data is much more complicated than people think. However complicated you think it is, multiply it. Then multiply it again. And once more. It's never as easy as it sounds from outside.
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If I bring up HL7, FHIR, SNOMED CT and stuff do you promise not to scream or mutilate me?
 
Darat said:
But we know we have (at least in the UK) a problem with people who are unable to regularly have social interactions. The problem of loneliness especially in housebound folk is endemic.

I really do see that a "chatty" AI assistant device that responds like a person - albeit always a level headed person - that can initiate conversations could be very useful in helping folk who are lonely. We recommend getting a pet for people to help with loneliness so I don't think alleviating a problem like loneliness and lack of social interactions requires other people.
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Don't know about the current octogenarians, but if I'm ever old enough to have someone try to "solve" my problems by having a non-sentient machine talk to me, I'm throwing the glorified AIBO into their face.
 
"Wine label copywriter" is an actual job title. I discovered that just the other day.

Here I thought AI had long ago taken over writing the incoherent bilge that I try not to waste neurons reading when I handle a bottle o' plonk. Surely it could be done?

And wine & food criticism while the robot's at it.
 
MRC_Hans said:
Interesting point about art and technology: When photography was introduced, some people predicted it would be the end of painting art. Not only was it not the end of painting art, it wasn't even the end of figurative art, AND photography turned into an artform of its own.

Hans
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There was a vogue in early photography for a painterly look, as far as B & W would go. Genre photography of that type can be quite impressionistic. With applied color (another early vogue; it's come back into fashion now, of course) it could -- can -- fool you into thinking it's painting.
 
Last post in this thread was almost exactly one year ago.

Another year, another study points to an impending "job apocalypse" thanks to our robot friends.

AI could eliminate nearly 8 million jobs in UK, study shows

The technology could herald a "job apocalypse," the study said.
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That's out of about 36 million jobs currently held by someone in the UK.

Researchers analyzed 22,000 tasks carried out by workers across the U.K. economy, finding that 11% are currently exposed to the threat of displacement by AI, the study said. The jobs at greatest risk include entry-level, part-time and administrative roles -- a set of positions disproportionately held by women, the study added.
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"Tasks" and "jobs" aren't quite the same, are they? There are a lot of "tasks" that I used to perform in the course of doing my job that I no longer need to perform, or that have been made orders of magnitude easier thanks to technology.

The report describes a soon-to-begin phase of AI adoption during which some of these “low-hanging fruit” jobs will be replaced by the technology. The overall workforce impact over the period could be limited, the study said, but some roles will experience massive effects, such as the elimination of one-third of administrative jobs.

A second phase could bring much deeper integration of AI that will threaten up to 59% of tasks, the report said. If companies allow AI to access proprietary information and execute key tasks, the study said, the resulting disruption may slash a wider swathe of jobs, including a larger share of high-paying positions.
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I will note that the actual number of jobs seems to be at a record high, so it hasn't happened yet.
 
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