Jet engine of wrong type found near Ground Zero

[Jrrarglblarg]

lol. He must have been joking. People were VERY focused on the burning tower. Especially with people falling out and horrors like that. People love watching car accidents for example. So my point is that they were acutely focused on the smoking tower, so much so, that when the fireball happened, it took some fraction of a second for them to react and shift their focus from the burning tower to the fireball explosion in the other tower. This means that VERY FEW actually witnessed the start of the fireball explosion.

No, unfortunately he was not joking. He was utterly serious, and thought that would end my huffing and puffing and blowing down his house of straw.

Then some of you may say that they must have heard the plane coming before the explosion, and therefore have shifted their attention earlier. To that I say.....you guessed it.......what plane?

None of us said that, thus your comment above goes into the rubbish bin labeled "strawman arguments."

B'sides, you're wrong. Do the calculations for speed of sound and you'll see why. Or not, and remain ignorant and self-deluded.

 

[walkyrie]

NOO! I hope you are not serious.

A plane traveling at 504 kts (that's about 900 km/h) will simply be swallowed. :

Are you sure ?, the plane in this video got smashed against a wall and ..... better see the video to check what happened to the plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eI4vvlupY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjhxuhTmGk

 

[DGM]

Anders is now on my ignore list ....................

What took you so long?

 

[TJM]

Are you sure ?, the plane in this video got smashed against a wall and ..... better see the video to check what happened to the plane



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjhxuhTmGk

Because a slab of reinforced concrete and an office building are built to the same specs.

 

[Wolrab]

Yay for negative proof!

So what happened exactly? A jet engine was there before the crash and no one saw it? Someone dumped the engine right at the crash and no one noticed? The engine was planted in the building without anyone seeing it and when the explosions went off it ejected it out?

It was one of the engines mounted in the towers that helped propel the collapse downward at free fall speed. Ironically, it was knocked out of the building when the port engine of the plane hit it dead on.

 

[Sunstealer]

What took you so long?

Entertainment - but it's no longer entertaining.

 

[DGM]

Entertainment - but it's no longer entertaining.

I hear you there. I added him to my list when he first stated he was a "no-planer". At that point it was "troll" or mental illness.

 

[MG1962]

The perpetrators needed to make sure that people, including experts, would be fooled for enough period of time so that the media or politicians, or experts or other people in positions of power and/or influence would not be able to revert the story about a terrorist attack. Say one or two days. After that there was no turning back and a cover-up HAD to be done because the public could not be told the truth without it having grave consequences for the entire society.

This means that the jet engine was probably of the CORRECT kind. Am I making a flip-flop here? You betcha! I'm faster than lightning.

So, then how to prove that the jet engine core was planted? Easy. Simply check the serial numbers on the different parts of the jet engine and the landing gear, and compare that to the actual listings for Flight 175 and Flight 11. As I understand it, all parts of an airliner must have a serial number or something to that effect.

Stop editorialising and supply evidence please. An eyewitness seeing a truck pull up and toss an engine out the back would be a good start

 

[Foolmewunz]

Find me an eyewitness report of the second plane hitting the South Tower and I will take a look at it (and claim it is a false witness report ).

Here's one:

I watched the second plane hit WTC 2.

 

[walkyrie]

It needs a bit more explanation. To most people, saying that no plane hit the Pentagon sounds completely unbelievable. And to say that no planes hit the World Trade Center, that's something even Alex Jones and his obedient followers think is completely crazy. And I understand that position, but after having looked at it more closely, then yes, I believe the no plane theory is the most plausible. How? For those new to the idea, start for example by watching this short clip about how the videos showing the plane could have been faked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNXmgF2yAEc

I am studing that video of the airplane hitting WTC South tower , apparently is a edited video because the airplane must start to explode outside and before the whole airplane completely and utterly disappear inside the building, but what we can see in that edited video is the airplane completely and utterly disappear inside the south tower and after that, the explosives inside the building are detonated


.

 

[DGM]

Stop editorialising and supply evidence please.

It's too bad Nixon didn't know about this rule.

 

[Foolmewunz]

I would be silent without taking any money. Better that then ending up with a bullet in the head.

People on this forum saw the plane? Yeah, right, on television that is.

Anders, just shut up! There are a number of us on this forum who witnessed the second plane. Not on television, not on YouTube, not on Conspiracy TV. In real time in the real world.

Your little game is getting offensive, now.

 

[Greedo]

I am studing that video of the airplane hitting WTC South tower , apparently is a edited video because the airplane must start to explode outside and before the whole airplane completely and utterly disappear inside the building, but what we can see in that edited video is the airplane completely and utterly disappear inside the south tower and after that, the explosives inside the building are detonated


.

 

[Oz1976]

Ha! Here are several such engines for sale: http://www.speednews.com/EquipmentResults.aspx?Search=Engine&Engine=JT9D&Type=-7R4D

To me this means that even if the engine found near ground zero turns out to be the correct type and version then I still believe it was complete TV fakery.

Seriously dude? TV Fakery? And the eyewitness? The thousands of us that watched from the streets of NY? Ya know, all the people that worked in Manhattan that day that flooded the streets after the first impact? I guess what, we were all given some kind of hallucinogen? The planes were holograms over missiles right? Yet they made these perfect plane shaped impact holes on the buildings? I guess the firefighters in the Naudet footage looked up, saw a missile, and were all like "Sigh, those pesky missiles keep flying around NY all the time" cause ya know, they casually returned to what they were doing till that "missile" impacted. Nothing strange there...

Really? No planes? Really?

Such an absolute abhorent idea.

 

[MG1962]

It's too bad Nixon didn't know about this rule.

LOL - however unlike the truth movement, he's gonna be remembered

 

[NoahFence]

I am studing that video of the airplane hitting WTC South tower , apparently is a edited video because the airplane must start to explode outside and before the whole airplane completely and utterly disappear inside the building, but what we can see in that edited video is the airplane completely and utterly disappear inside the south tower and after that, the explosives inside the building are detonated


.

Then why didn't the building collapse right then and there? You're describing something totally different from Controlled Demo.

(The likelihood of you actually realizing that is pretty much nil)

 

[Oz1976]

The evidence fits my theory! Listen to the sharp bang in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRatnY5ymM Is that the sound of a plane crashing into a building? No way. It's the sound of explosives used to shoot out a part of a jet engine plus a landing gear out from the tower.

Really? That's what it sounds like? Please post support for this postulate. In other words. Post a video of a cannon shooting out a used jet engine from a 110 story steel framed building that's not the world trade center so we can compare to see if that's what it really sounds like.

No planers, of all the "truthers", are by far the most delusional. Atleast the ae911truthers and the scholars ATTEMPT to use science...this is just utter lunacy.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Is it turtles all the way down?

As long as we keep giving Anders the attention he craves, yes.

 

[Oz1976]

I would be silent without taking any money. Better that then ending up with a bullet in the head.

People on this forum saw the plane? Yeah, right, on television that is.

I'm going to ignore the fact that everything you're saying in this thread calls me and atleast 10's of 1000's of other New Yorkers liars....that being said...you're a coward if you would rather take money, instead of "a bullet in the head" in order to hide the mass murder of 1000's of innocent people in the twin towers and the first responders and then the 1000's of afghani's and the 100's of 1000's of Iraqi's that have died as a result of that day. Personally, I'd take a bullet to the head over any amount of money to cover up such a heinous act as you claim to have occured. I know I couldn't live with myself, and you're claiming now that 10's of 1000's of others have no conscience.

How can you be so obnoxiously brazen with your "theory" (and I use that word in the LIGHTEST of context) here on a message board, boasting that you've figured it all out, yet say you would take the bribe. If you're so courageous on here when the FBI, CIA, Shadow Govt, whatever, could easilly be snooping on you, I would expect the same in reality. But the truth of all this is, whatever reality you live in, I'd bet a years salary you see fairies, unicorns, angels, fauns, and centaurs on a daily basis, probably actually conversing with them and seeing them as your friends.

 

[apathoid]

It's always funny when truthers thoroughly refute their own claims, and in doing so, unintentionally give more weight to the "Official Story" like Anders did here. The high stage cooling duct match is a pretty good 'lil piece of debunking that I haven't seen before.

But what always amazes me is how after blowing themselves out of the water, truthers never seem to want to alter the conclusion. If anything, they even more adamantly adhere to a particular pet theory. Anders started out to prove that a 767 didn't hit the Towers because a CFM56 was found at Ground Zero(per the OP). He did his own research and quickly modified that theory - it wasn't a CFM56, but it also wasn't a JT9D-7R4. Then it quickly came to light that he misunderstood his own evidence, and that the Ground Zero engine was likely the correct type.

A no planer sure would want the wrong engine to be at ground zero, as that would be solid, concrete evidence. But when that turns out not to be the case - "its obviously planted anyways" and "the building should have swallowed it whole" and "watch this youtube video ZOMG" and a whole bunch of other subjective, non-concrete 'evidence'.

Just once I want a truther to say something like "Well I guess the Ground Zero engine is the correct type, giving more weight to the official story. My bad guys. Mods can you please close the thread." Just once.