Jet engine of wrong type found near Ground Zero

Anders Lindman said:
But the point I was making is that they were staring at the OTHER tower, so most of them missed the onset of the fireball explosion.
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I don't even know how to respond to this total crap.

The human eye has a very large field of view. We also have the ability to pick up fast moving objects that are not in the center of our view. Also, planes are kinda loud. Even at high altitudes.
 
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The most amazing response about the videos I've ever heard was at DIF (no surprise). Unfortunately, I hadn't joined here yet so I couldn't nominate it for a stundie. Tthe guy stated that nobody would have bothered wasting time filming a smoking tower, but would just go have another cup of coffee instead.

I added it to my sig of idiotic quotes, and the user stopped posting under that name.

Little victory, I guess.

Anyway, I really hope anders is joking or trolling. My eternal optimism for the human race is damaged a little but more with every post of his, otherwise.
 
ApolloGnomon said:
The most amazing response about the videos I've ever heard was at DIF (no surprise). Unfortunately, I hadn't joined here yet so I couldn't nominate it for a stundie. Tthe guy stated that nobody would have bothered wasting time filming a smoking tower, but would just go have another cup of coffee instead.
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I remember reading somewhere, that some truthers think that because all the shop owners turned their TVs to the windows so everyone could see, nobody would pay attention to the burning towers :D

Anyway, I really hope anders is joking or trolling. My eternal optimism for the human race is damaged a little but more with every post of his, otherwise.
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Yes.. I hope he's trolling. If he isn't, he really, really needs help.
 
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Hey! The jet engine core found near Ground Zero could be the correct type! Why? Because first of all, it's easy to buy such engine it seems, and secondly, the perpetrators needed to fool even expert for the first day or two, long enough time so that the media or politicians no longer could revert the story they had told the public.

So even with the correct type of engine, I win. :D
 
Anders Lindman said:
Hey! The jet engine core found near Ground Zero could be the correct type! Why? Because first of all, it's easy to buy such engine it seems, and secondly, the perpetrators needed to fool even expert for the first day or two, long enough time so that the media or politicians no longer could revert the story they had told the public.
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Hmm OR IT WAS ACTUALLY THE DANG' PLANE THAT HIT THE WTC FOR GOD'S SAKE!

So even with the correct type of engine, I win. :D
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That is just such an immensly stupid conclusi... eerrrr delusion.


I think you're having fun at this Anders. I think you're a troll. Troll somewhere else.
 
ApolloGnomon said:
The guy stated that nobody would have bothered wasting time filming a smoking tower, but would just go have another cup of coffee instead.
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lol. He must have been joking. People were VERY focused on the burning tower. Especially with people falling out and horrors like that. People love watching car accidents for example. So my point is that they were acutely focused on the smoking tower, so much so, that when the fireball happened, it took some fraction of a second for them to react and shift their focus from the burning tower to the fireball explosion in the other tower. This means that VERY FEW actually witnessed the start of the fireball explosion.

Then some of you may say that they must have heard the plane coming before the explosion, and therefore have shifted their attention earlier. To that I say.....you guessed it.......what plane?
 
Anders Lindman said:
Hey! The jet engine core found near Ground Zero could be the correct type! Why? Because first of all, it's easy to buy such engine it seems, and secondly, the perpetrators needed to fool even expert for the first day or two, long enough time so that the media or politicians no longer could revert the story they had told the public.

So even with the correct type of engine, I win. :D
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I didn't think this was about winning or losing, I thought that it was about finding the truth. I guess not. It's just a game to you.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Hey! The jet engine core found near Ground Zero could be the correct type! Why? Because first of all, it's easy to buy such engine it seems, and secondly, the perpetrators needed to fool even expert for the first day or two, long enough time so that the media or politicians no longer could revert the story they had told the public.

So even with the correct type of engine, I win. :D
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Yes, you win the dumbest fantasy of 911 award for today. You posted a lie and now you admit it was a lie, and now you make up a fantasy based on your own fantasy. Evidence? How did they get the engine to look exactly like it hit a building and was running at 99 percent throttle at impact, with ejected blades and all? Any clue about this, any ideas why the engine looks like it was in a Kinetic energy event equal to 2093 pounds of TNT? Do you do math and physics, or do you only post fantasy?
 
Drs_Res said:
No, you did not beat me to anything.

Quickly done in paint using the nozzels, since we can see all of them, to illistrate where your picture is wrong.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=203&pictureid=4513[/qimg]

See where the lines for the nozzels intersect? See where the lines you drew for the holes intersect? Do you see the spacing between the lines at the top vs. the bottom of the picture?
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Well, I did beat you to it this time: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7162889&postcount=259

Ha ha.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Hey! The jet engine core found near Ground Zero could be the correct type! Why? Because first of all, it's easy to buy such engine it seems, and secondly, the perpetrators needed to fool even expert for the first day or two, long enough time so that the media or politicians no longer could revert the story they had told the public.

So even with the correct type of engine, I win. :D
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You realize your post is essentially saying " I have found a way of phrasing my lie so that it is not able to be refuted." in a pretty boldfaced way, right? Two comments on that, if i may.

1. It is one of the most intellectually dishonest things i have read in a few months.

2. No, your wrong. Only idiots make decisions based on " could have..." , rational people make decisions based on " What is most likely to have...". If your goal is to convince idiots, i guess, i have to concede, it is air tight. Unfortunately your on the wrong forum, and to pre empt a smart reply of " Am i?" followed by a smiley, yes, you obviously are, as no one here is buyin' it.
 
Anders Lindman said:
lol. He must have been joking. People were VERY focused on the burning tower. Especially with people falling out and horrors like that. People love watching car accidents for example. So my point is that they were acutely focused on the smoking tower, so much so, that when the fireball happened, it took some fraction of a second for them to react and shift their focus from the burning tower to the fireball explosion in the other tower. This means that VERY FEW actually witnessed the start of the fireball explosion.

Then some of you may say that they must have heard the plane coming before the explosion, and therefore have shifted their attention earlier. To that I say.....you guessed it.......what plane?
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You are silly Anders. I'm just gonna go now. No, you did not win. I will just ignore this. Debating with you seems to be just as pointless as with any other truther. We have debunked your original claim. All the other stuff that you desperately "presented" to us has been debunked over and over. Either you are just ridiculously ignorant or you don't believe in physics or any other science for that matter. In that case...I can't think of anything to say that wouldn't be offensive. Good night Anders, you have provided copious amounts of lulz to teh interwebz. Maybe there's even Stundie fodder in this thread :D

'Night folks!
 
Drs_Res said:
I didn't think this was about winning or losing, I thought that it was about finding the truth. I guess not. It's just a game to you.
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beachnut said:
Yes, you win the dumbest fantasy of 911 award for today. You posted a lie and now you admit it was a lie, and now you make up a fantasy based on your own fantasy. Evidence? How did they get the engine to look exactly like it hit a building and was running at 99 percent throttle at impact, with ejected blades and all? Any clue about this, any ideas why the engine looks like it was in a Kinetic energy event equal to 2093 pounds of TNT? Do you do math and physics, or do you only post fantasy?
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I have actually learned a few new things during this thread. For the entertainment part, yeah I want to win. The most important thing though for me is to find out the truth.
 
Anders is now on my ignore list I suggest everyone else does the same - he obviously gets a kick out of this kind of thing, so best to deprive him of a response. No response will ever change what he believes or posts.
 
Anders Lindman said:
I have actually learned a few new things during this thread. For the entertainment part, yeah I want to win. The most important thing though for me is to find out the truth.
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lol. I think you mentioned that you want to win about three times, and only once that you would like to find the truth (not counting this one). Not convincing :o


Ignored btw. Nighty.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Hey! The jet engine core found near Ground Zero could be the correct type! Why? Because first of all, it's easy to buy such engine it seems, and secondly, the perpetrators needed to fool even expert for the first day or two, long enough time so that the media or politicians no longer could revert the story they had told the public.

So even with the correct type of engine, I win. :D
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Evidence of the highlighted please
 
MG1962 said:
Evidence of the highlighted please
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The perpetrators needed to make sure that people, including experts, would be fooled for enough period of time so that the media or politicians, or experts or other people in positions of power and/or influence would not be able to revert the story about a terrorist attack. Say one or two days. After that there was no turning back and a cover-up HAD to be done because the public could not be told the truth without it having grave consequences for the entire society.

This means that the jet engine was probably of the CORRECT kind. Am I making a flip-flop here? You betcha! I'm faster than lightning.

So, then how to prove that the jet engine core was planted? Easy. Simply check the serial numbers on the different parts of the jet engine and the landing gear, and compare that to the actual listings for Flight 175 and Flight 11. As I understand it, all parts of an airliner must have a serial number or something to that effect.
 
Anders Lindman said:
So, then how to prove that the jet engine core was planted? Easy. Simply check the serial numbers on the different parts of the jet engine and the landing gear, and compare that to the actual listings for Flight 175 and Flight 11. As I understand it, all parts of an airliner must have a serial number or something to that effect.
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And when these match up as well, Anders wins again! Because maybe the planes were dis-assembled and parts planted in advance of the holographic/fake plane "crash" and ejected from the towers by explosives. Or serial-numbered "doubles" were manufactured. Is it turtles all the way down?
 
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