Jesus created Sex

Davidjayjordan said:
Truth needs to be experienced, but false skeptics are afraid to go beyond the norm and the status quo and therefore deny that there is anything beyond their safe bounds of nothingness.

And yet some that have experienced truths in real life, out of love, do try and tell the complacent and lazy that there is a whole new world where they could ENTER IN and be part of.


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But by attempting to 'share' the truth with them you are, in fact, taking away the chance for them to experience it. We all have the truth in us, only an agent of Lucifer would dare to share the truth and negate the chance of experiencing it first hand.

There is no truth in your words, only a need to be validated.
 
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Now let's go from the original sin was NOT sex but the first commandment was 'have sex' to....... what was really the original sin and what was the tree of good and evil.

What is good knowledge and what is evil twisted knowledge.

isn;t learning about true sexuality exciting and thrilling ?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Now let's go from the original sin was NOT sex but the first commandment was 'have sex' to....... what was really the original sin and what was the tree of good and evil.

What is good knowledge and what is evil twisted knowledge.

isn;t learning about true sexuality exciting and thrilling ?
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I don't see anything from you about true sexuality. All I see is a pompous fool spewing quotes from a musty old book and his own interpretation of that musty old book.

Still no evidence and still no real answers from you.
 
Kochanski said:
I don't see anything from you about true sexuality. All I see is a pompous fool spewing quotes from a musty old book and his own interpretation of that musty old book.

Still no evidence and still no real answers from you.
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I have a feeling that Jesus will show up and answer your questions before Mr. Jay Jordan does. ;)
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Now let's go from the original sin was NOT sex but the first commandment was 'have sex' to....... what was really the original sin and what was the tree of good and evil.

What is good knowledge and what is evil twisted knowledge.

isn;t learning about true sexuality exciting and thrilling ?
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Anyone with the slightest knowledge of the Abrahamic tradition knows that sex was not the "original sin". This is not a revelation. I find your ideas on sex a bit disturbing. Not because they are too liberal, but because they are still arbitrarily restrictive. It seems as though you are trying to establish a sexual morality in which you get to have multiple partners while claiming that it is not your desire, but rather God's desire that you do so. Yet ultimately you're just pushing Djj's sexual preferences and claiming they are God's. Case in point: You've declared that anal sex is bad. What was it you said? Something about it harming the body and the soul, yes? If you'd said "It's just not my thing, but if other consenting adults want to do it that's fine as long as they conduct themselves responsibly, as they should in any sexual encounter" then I could agree with that. But the fact that your finding it icky leads you to declare it unnatural and dangerous helps to convince me that you are just trying to elevate your own sexual preferences by declaring them superior to those of others.

Here are my personal sexual rules:

1. Everyone involved is an adult. Non-negotiable.
2. Everyone involved is consenting. Non-negotiable.
3. Everyone involved should act responsibly to avoid unwanted pregnancies or the communication of diseases.
4. Everyone involved should be honest about what they want (or don't want). In other words don't be deceptive to get what you want.

Why should we accept you as an authority on human sexuality when your prophecies are false and the math you use to "prove" those prophecies doesn't add up?
 
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Davidjayjordan said:
When the Lord told Adam and Eve to be 'Fruitful and Multiply'... brethren, the only way to do that is have sex and make babies. It comes naturally and they obeyed and had children.

Darn. I assumed you guys and gals knew this basic sexual method, rather than me having to tell you.

The first commandment was 'Have Sex'
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And if Adam had only picked one of the animals as his "Special Friend" when he and God looked them over companion-wise, God could have saved a rib and Eve would never have been mislead by the talking snake and Adam would be living happily in the Garden of Eden still.

Don't forget that the only Ten Commandments that the Bible calls "The Ten Commandments" are:

The First Commandment
34:12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:
34:13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
The Second Commandment
34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for Yahweh, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous god:
34:15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
34:16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
The Third Commandment
34:17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
The Fourth Commandment
34:18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.
The Fifth Commandment
34:19 Every first birth of the womb is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.
34:20 But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.
The Sixth Commandment
34:21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.
The Seventh Commandment
34:22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the years end.
34:23 Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before Lord Yahweh, the god of Israel.
34:24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before Yahweh thy god thrice in the year.
The Eighth Commandment
34:25 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the Passover be left unto the morning.
The Ninth Commandment
34:26 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of Yahweh thy god.
The Tenth Commandment
Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mothers milk

Don't see any SEX there at all. :boggled:
 
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Mr. Jordan is an exponent of the "Humpty Dumpty Principle" of debate:

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.' (Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass)
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Kochanski said:
I don't see anything from you about true sexuality. All I see is a pompous fool spewing quotes from a musty old book and his own interpretation of that musty old book.

Still no evidence and still no real answers from you.
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As in all other areas of life, Koch... you have to get real life sexual experiences to truly understand sex. I can't do it for you...

I can lead you to water, but you have to choose to drink.

I can show you its beautiful, thrilling exciting, but you have to do the entering IN, and only afterwards can you KNOW the Biblical concept of KNOWING.

As 'Adam knew Eve'.

For they obeyed the FIRST COMMANDMENT, and it wasn't grieveous, but thrilling and exciting, even though the caring for the product took work and love.

Are you catching how sexual mysteries are involved in prophetic mysteries..
 
Foster Zygote said:
Anyone with the slightest knowledge of the Abrahamic tradition knows that sex was not the "original sin". This is not a revelation. I find your ideas on sex a bit disturbing. Not because they are too liberal, but because they are still arbitrarily restrictive. It seems as though you are trying to establish a sexual morality in which you get to have multiple partners while claiming that it is not your desire, but rather God's desire that you do so. Yet ultimately you're just pushing Djj's sexual preferences and claiming they are God's. Case in point: You've declared that anal sex is bad. What was it you said? Something about it harming the body and the soul, yes? If you'd said "It's just not my thing, but if other consenting adults want to do it that's fine as long as they conduct themselves responsibly, as they should in any sexual encounter" then I could agree with that. But the fact that your finding it icky leads you to declare it unnatural and dangerous helps to convince me that you are just trying to elevate your own sexual preferences by declaring them superior to those of others.

Here are my personal sexual rules:

1. Everyone involved is an adult. Non-negotiable.
2. Everyone involved is consenting. Non-negotiable.
3. Everyone involved should act responsibly to avoid unwanted pregnancies or the communication of diseases.
4. Everyone involved should be honest about what they want (or don't want). In other words don't be deceptive to get what you want.

Why should we accept you as an authority on human sexuality when your prophecies are false and the math you use to "prove" those prophecies doesn't add up?
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If people choose anal sex. Their choice and responsibility..

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AnalSexisDirty.html

As the anus wasn't designed for sex, because of the membranes and what they were meant to store.... feces is hardly clean but expelled.

But anal sex is not a spiritual sin, just a private sexual one that people may or may not pay for. It doesn;t involve the soul.

Straight forward and simple.

Choose wisely as in other areas of life.
 
Which brings up the question of the judgment on the city of Sodom, was it because they were homosexuals.

Search and research the answer biblically... as most get it wrong.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Which brings up the question of the judgment on the city of Sodom, was it because they were homosexuals.

Search and research the answer biblically... as most get it wrong.
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There is no archaeological evidence that Sodom existed. Gomorrah too. Sorry.
 
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