Jesus created Sex

Davidjayjordan said:
Lisa Simpson said:
I don't recall Mary complaining about god's technique in the Bible, but back then, she was probably supposed to close her eyes and think of Jerusalem.
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Good INsight Lisa, as Mary was overshadowed and experienced women know what being overshadowed means.

The Bible uses delicate language, but you can discern these things if in the Spirit or you research it. Good point..
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Never, ever have I seen somebody miss the sarcasm in a post as badly as DJJ did with this one.
 
Lonewulf said:
So...

God killed his own kid. He had sex with his own mother. Hmm...

And Jesus spent inordinate amounts of time with nubile young males the same age as him in the middle of nowhere.

Let me think about this a bit.
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Apparently God is Jesus. Therefore, God didn't kill his son, Jesus killed himself. Some 33 years after he had sex with his own mother. The guy had issues.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Zygar, labeling doctrines won;t help you dioscern doctrines or truths, each principle has to be discerned individually. as believe it or not different groups can get some things right... but it is very very unlikely that any one group would get it all right,. especially when they have become ONE with the world and formed into a worldly system..... but the choices are yours, and it hardly helps to think in terms of even Mormons and Protestants, etc.

Go to the source and figure things out for yourself.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WehavetoChoose.html
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Okay, so if all sources should be considered, what do you think of the native Australian tribes' beliefs? Or the Native American tribes' beliefs? Native Canadians? The Aztecs! The Mayans!

Where does Zeus play? Or Odin?
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Apparently God is Jesus. Therefore, God didn't kill his son, Jesus killed himself. Some 33 years after he had sex with his own mother. The guy had issues.
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Ah, suicide makes it a bit more acceptable though. I'm more okay with suicide.

But... he should be, by most religous accounts, sent to hell for suicide! Hmm.
 
Tricky said:
So that would mean that evil is God's doing. I suspected as much.
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Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].

Yes, evil has its place as it gives people an alternative in their choices...

But YES, the dam devil was created by the Lord. he didn't creat himself but was a mere creation. Just as you are created, and Jesus created sex, he created evil, so you could have CHOICE Tricky.

But He is not tricky

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Godisnottricky.html
 
Lonewulf said:
Ah, suicide makes it a bit more acceptable though. I'm more okay with suicide.

But... he should be, by most religous accounts, sent to hell for suicide! Hmm.
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I thought Jesus went to hell during the three days post-Cruifiction?
 
Lonewulf said:
Ah, suicide makes it a bit more acceptable though. I'm more okay with suicide.

But... he should be, by most religous accounts, sent to hell for suicide! Hmm.
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I opposed suicide and so does the Lord, because while there is life there is hope. But because the world is so hard and cruel and lonely many do commit suicide unfortunately. Are you helping them Lone wolf, for on the Conspiracy Board, I don;t recall you saying my efforts to stop suicide were honourable.

So would you now accuse the Lord for giving up his life for others.... as suicide.


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Mat 12:36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
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Mat 12:37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

So do watch out for your accussations, you can definitely accuse the false church for not helping MORE those that are alone, and accuse the false church for other atrocious crimes, just watch that you don;t blame the Lord. Thanks
 
Lisa Simpson said:
I thought Jesus went to hell during the three days post-Cruifiction?
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Again rather INsightful Lisa...


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1Pe 3:18¶For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
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1Pe 3:19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
 
Taffer said:
Nope. You have failed to convince me. Of course, you wouldn't be convinced either if you had any understand of biology.
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I don't have to convince you of anything, creation and sex itself is its own proof.



Rom 1:20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
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Rom 1:21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
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Rom 1:22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Prove things to yourself and quite trying to blame others for yuor lack of discernment. As creation and sex is a wtiness against you if you think they don;t prove design and pleasure and reproduction and creation.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Zygar, labeling doctrines won;t help you dioscern doctrines or truths, each principle has to be discerned individually. as believe it or not different groups can get some things right... but it is very very unlikely that any one group would get it all right,. especially when they have become ONE with the world and formed into a worldly system..... but the choices are yours, and it hardly helps to think in terms of even Mormons and Protestants, etc.

Go to the source and figure things out for yourself.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WehavetoChoose.html
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I only asked because the Mormons get a lot of flack for this belief from fellow protestants. Basically, I was just trying to clarify the point. I now understand that it is not a uniquely Mormon belief.

Not that it makes any difference. Your statements seem to be mostly based around quote mining from the bible. Taken as a whole, you can clearly see the conflicts with what you are trying to say.

For example, for Jesus to be the One God, that would mean that there would a clear delineation between the moment he was God giving his seed to Mary, and the moment he became Jesus. At what moment was he no longer having sex with Mary, but instead just a baby inside of Mary? Also, he would no longer be able to act as the overseeing God while being Jesus, since he was clearly confined to the physical body of Jesus.

I see no way that the belief that he was the One God jives with your beliefs. It requires the trinity to be distinct beings.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
I don't have to convince you of anything, creation and sex itself is its own proof.

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Rom 1:20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:[qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/k9.gif[/qimg][qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/c9.gif[/qimg][qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/l9.gif[/qimg]
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Rom 1:21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.[qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/k9.gif[/qimg][qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/c9.gif[/qimg][qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/l9.gif[/qimg]
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Rom 1:22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Prove things to yourself and quite trying to blame others for yuor lack of discernment. As creation and sex is a wtiness against you if you think they don;t prove design and pleasure and reproduction and creation.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html
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I'm sorry, DJJ, but you obviously are trying to convince us. You are just doing a very poor job. We would like some evidence other then scripture. Or perhaps you would like to provide us with evidence that we should trust what the bible says?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
I opposed suicide and so does the Lord, because while there is life there is hope. But because the world is so hard and cruel and lonely many do commit suicide unfortunately. Are you helping them Lone wolf, for on the Conspiracy Board, I don;t recall you saying my efforts to stop suicide were honourable.
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On the contrary, convincing others to not commit suicide is perfectly honorable. But personally, I believe that every person has a right to life, and to not live. I do not believe in ridding someone of the choice of killing themselves -- they didn't choose to be brought into this world, but they can have a choice to take themselves out of it.

So would you now accuse the Lord for giving up his life for others.... as suicide.
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The Trinity thing is bullspit anyways, so I don't care really. I'm dealing with fiction.

But yes, fictionally, I'd accuse him. But it's not the first hypocrisy your fictitious God has done.

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Mat 12:36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.[qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/k9.gif[/qimg][qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/c9.gif[/qimg][qimg]http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/l9.gif[/qimg]
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Mat 12:37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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OMG! Your invisible friend will hurt me! That's okay. I have FSM, and he's 100 times stronger than your invisible friend.

So do watch out for your accussations, you can definitely accuse the false church for not helping MORE those that are alone, and accuse the false church for other atrocious crimes, just watch that you don;t blame the Lord. Thanks
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Don't give me advice. Thanks.

BTW: God is not tricky? Bullspit! God is PLENTY tricky.

All we have to even show that He exists is an ancient retranslated, picky piece of literature. Do you think the Bible was made by God? It was made by Man. it was made by Church. And that very false church is the same thing that was responsible for translating the very source you quote from!

I'd also add that even before all the translations, it was originally a series of stories that was voted on by a council and put into the Bible. That's right -- they picked and choosed which passages to put in. The False Church has made your False Literature, and now you're a True Believer of a False Hope. It's sad.
 
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