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cisco said:
So apparently truthers respond when they really think they're right. Explains their hyper-frequent and famous lack of responses.
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9/11 never answers questions. 9/11 only makes assertions and pretends they are fact. You need not supply any alternative information, websites, experts, books, trial testimony, etc. to 9/11. He only recognizes the experts he recognizes and is incapable of recognizing or addressing any and all information that contradicts his bald assertions. It is the nature of mystical thinking.
 
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Skeptic said:
What's more, I wonder what 9/11 investigator, a "Ron Paul fan", thinks Ron Paul's view would be about his call for -- get this -- a Dutch-led European invasion of the USA (to subdue the zionist-Jewish-masonic New World Order, of course).

Wouldn't that be an act of war against the USA (welllllllllllll, presuming (a) it occurs, and (b) anybody notices)? Wouldn't that sort of piss off Ron Paul?
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He thinks Ron Paul would support it. No, seriously.
 
Dr Adequate said:
He thinks Ron Paul would support it. No, seriously.
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Well I can see that, who can't picture Paul at some townhall meeting in Texas's 14th promising his supporters that he is in favor of smaller government, more transparency, and the invasion of the US by socialist Europe.
 
Skeptic said:
What's more, I wonder what 9/11 investigator, a "Ron Paul fan", thinks Ron Paul's view would be about his call for -- get this -- a Dutch-led European invasion of the USA (to subdue the zionist-Jewish-masonic New World Order, of course).

Wouldn't that be an act of war against the USA (welllllllllllll, presuming (a) it occurs, and (b) anybody notices)? Wouldn't that sort of piss off Ron Paul?
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Here we go:

9/11-investigator said:
America is a luxury European Civilization can no longer afford.

So you need to go. And that's what you will. And 9/11 will be the catalyst. And it will be brought about by a temporarily alliance between Europe, Russia, China, Japan, Iran and others and patriotic forces within the US (Constitutionalists, think Ron Paul). And after 9/11 will come the abolition of the FED, an institution captured by Jewish private bankers located in London in 1913 and currently costs Euro-America 40 million $ per hour on interest payments with which its complete political system is corrupted, bought and paid for.

Next we are going to liberate you.
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Apparently when China invades the U.S.A, Ron Paul will see his patriotic duty and turn quisling. It seems, you see, that his advocacy of "non-interventionism" applies only to the U.S. intervening in the affairs of other countries, and not vice versa; and when the People's Liberation Army marches into Washington D.C. demanding a new investigation into 9/11, Ron Paul will be standing on the steps of the Capitol saying: "Welcome, O glorious comrades of the glorious People's Republic of China!"
 
Skeptic said:
What's more, I wonder what 9/11 investigator, a "Ron Paul fan", thinks Ron Paul's view would be about his call for -- get this -- a Dutch-led European invasion of the USA (to subdue the zionist-Jewish-masonic New World Order, of course).

Wouldn't that be an act of war against the USA (welllllllllllll, presuming (a) it occurs, and (b) anybody notices)? Wouldn't that sort of piss off Ron Paul?
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Uh, Dutch-led invasion? Of the US? Are you mad?

I advocated a 'soft-alliance' between Europe, Russia, China and Japan, not to physically conquer the US, but to 'downsize' the US in order to make it a 'normal political entity' so the US can forget about it's imperial hegemon aspirations. We don't want MacWorld. We don't want multiculturalism. We don't want mass third world immigration. We want a multipolar world. The French, the Russians and the Chinese said so openly: multipolar world. In order to reach this objective it is sufficient for the rest of the world to abandon the dollar for internal payments. And stop financing deficits. And that process is exactly what is going on right now. As a consequence the dollar will crash and you will be forced to abandon it and come up with a new currency, now gold backed. And then you are forced to work for a living for a change instead of printing money out of thin air and expect to be serviced for it by the rest of the world.

The invasion stuff was intended in case the disaster scenario becomes reality and the US starts to balkanize. What can happen to Jugoslavia can certainly happen to the US as well. In that case the Euro-Americans may need a hand. But only if you ask for it.

Oh and you better pay attention when ordinary Americans start drinking tea in larger quantities.
 
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Dr Adequate said:
Here we go:

Apparently when China invades the U.S.A, Ron Paul will see his patriotic duty and turn quisling. It seems, you see, that his advocacy of "non-interventionism" applies only to the U.S. intervening in the affairs of other countries, and not vice versa; and when the People's Liberation Army marches into Washington D.C. demanding a new investigation into 9/11, Ron Paul will be standing on the steps of the Capitol saying: "Welcome, O glorious comrades of the glorious People's Republic of China!"
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Ah, there is Dr. Adequate again, my esteemed opponent from good old 9/11 times, almost a year back now.

I have answered your considerations in my previous post.

P.S. I hope you have digested the discovery of nano-thermite at the WTC site.
 
Brainster said:
Well, we can both hope he heads back to the anti(sic)-chambres of power soon!
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Sigh.

Chambre is a french word. My dictionary says antichambre (f). That translates to antechamber in English.

http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/antichambre
antichambre
nf antechamber, anteroom
faire antichambre to wait for an audience


Got it now?

But I have to agree with you former leader that it is a pity that the French don't have a word for entrepreneur. Don't you agree, Brainster?
 
9/11-investigator said:
P.S. I hope you have digested the discovery of nano-thermite at the WTC site.
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I was thinking that this thread couldn't get any crazier.

And then ... nanothermite!

Can you deny the Holocaust for us? That's one of your party pieces, isn't it?
 
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Dr Adequate said:
I was thinking that this thread couldn't get any crazier.

And then ... nanothermite!

Can you deny the Holocaust for us? That's one of your party pieces, isn't it?
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For the past couple of months, Holocaust Denial has been 9/11 Investigator Main Shtick. Check out the History section here.
 
dudalb said:
For the past couple of months, Holocaust Denial has been 9/11 Investigator Main Shtick. Check out the History section here.
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Yes, yes, I know. But he hasn't done it in this thread. We've had Ron Paul, "nanothermite", and the gold standard, but we won't have the "full house" until he denies the Holocaust. Then this will be the craziest thread ever.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Sigh.

Chambre is a french word. My dictionary says antichambre (f). That translates to antechamber in English.

http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/antichambre
antichambre
nf antechamber, anteroom
faire antichambre to wait for an audience
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That translates to antechamber in English.
Your own words, repeated for emphasis. We are having discourse here English.

I note a nano-intellect arising yet again, Phoenix-like, from the ashhattery of CT discussions of yore. Forgive me for feeling nauseous, rather than nostalgic. You will note that nauseous comes from the Latin, nauseōsus, but I used the term as the English language has mutated it. No thermate required.

Since we are speaking in English here, antechamber, as your own definition has pointed out, is the term you were seeking, hence Zigg's correction.

Carry on in your journey of wrong, sirrah, my nitpicking is now complete.

DR
 
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Darth Rotor said:
That translates to antechamber in English.
Your own words, repeated for emphasis. We are having discourse here English.

I note a nano-intellect arising yet again, Phoenix-like, from the ashhattery of CT discussions of yore. Forgive me for feeling nauseous, rather than nostalgic. You will note that nauseous comes from the Latin, nauseōsus, but I used the term as the English language has mutated it. No thermate required.

Since we are speaking in English here, antechamber, as your own definition has pointed out, is the term you were seeking, hence Zigg's correction.

Carry on in your journey of wrong, sirrah, my nitpicking is now complete.

DR
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More than happy to pick a few nits with you just to kill time.

I'll explain it again for you, this time slowly...

It is certainly true that this is an English language forum. We all know that Anglo-people are not very much 'into languages'. They don't have to. Nevertheless, it occured even to you that if you use foreign words in a text, and even Anglo's every now and then use foreign words (if they can remember them) that the international convention is to display these foreign words in italics, as you yourself demonstrated while describing your sorry internal state (being nauseōsus). Now if you take the trouble to scroll upwards to post #54 you will notice that the word antichambre was displayed in italics as well. So it should have occured to nano-thermite deniers like you as well as this Ziggurat fella, that the word could not have been an English word and hence it should have been interpreted as a foreign word, leaving only the possibility that it was a French word.

Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?

Glad to be of service. ;)
 
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Dr Adequate said:
I was thinking that this thread couldn't get any crazier.

And then ... nanothermite!

Can you deny the Holocaust for us? That's one of your party pieces, isn't it?
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Projection. So far it's only you who brings up the topic in this otherwise reasonably on-topic thread, ignoring the spelling pedanterie. Nevertheless, the magnanimous chap that I am, I have a Traficant clip here where he discusses the Demjanjuk case. You will probably remember that this is about the hollowcause or how do you spell that again. Demjanjuk, as we all remember very well, was released by the Israeli court because they had no proof against the man.

Now I suggest to my American friends here to close the curtains, switch the lights of, pump up the volume of your sound card and listen carefully to what this Congress insider has to say about the youknowwho's and their grip on America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CSobvj_Mxk

You won't get it much clearer than this.
Ron Paul will say these things only in private.

Last sentence in the clip: "America is in danger if America doesn't take back the government without foreign influence".

So what danger might that be?

Do you think that Americans are smarter than Russians? I don't think so. So why could not happen to you what happened to them? Different time, different geography, different means, same pattern.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
More than happy to pick a few nits with you just to kill time.

I'll explain it again for you, this time slowly...

It is certainly true that this is an English language forum. We all know that Anglo-people are not very much 'into languages'. They don't have to. Nevertheless, it occured even to you that if you use foreign words in a text, and even Anglo's every now and then use foreign words (if they can remember them) that the international convention is to display these foreign words in italics, as you yourself demonstrated while describing your sorry internal state (being nauseōsus). Now if you take the trouble to scroll upwards to post #54 you will notice that the word antichambre was displayed in italics as well. So it should have occured to nano-thermite deniers like you as well as this Ziggurat fella, that the word could not have been an English word and hence it should have been interpreted as a foreign word, leaving only the possibility that it was a French word.

Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?

Glad to be of service. ;)
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Balderdash!!

If that were true, the simple counter 'I was using the French spelling' would have cleared that up from the beginning. Instead you insisted on claiming both were correct, which in English is clearly not the case.

Ether way, adding the hyphen to the word made it incorrect in either language.
 
Dr Adequate said:
Yes, yes, I know. But he hasn't done it in this thread. We've had Ron Paul, "nanothermite", and the gold standard, but we won't have the "full house" until he denies the Holocaust. Then this will be the craziest thread ever.
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His craziest thread ever, maybe. But not the craziest thread ever until alien corn dogs are mentioned.
 
As much as I dislike Ron Paul, he does not deserve to have an Anti Semitic Wackjob puts words in his mouth.
 
dudalb said:
As much as I dislike Ron Paul, he does not deserve to have an Anti Semitic Wackjob puts words in his mouth.
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As usual dudalb reacts like being attacked personally. It likely is personal. And he is surprisingly illinformed.

http://antipaul.blogspot.com/

From Ron Paul's Jewish staffer:

Ron Paul, my former boss, is not an explicit Anti-Semite, but he is most certainly anti-Israel and one could make a strong case - outright anti-Jewish.

During my 6-year stint with him, I served as his only Jewish staffer. He regularly touted me as proof against allegations that he wasn’t an Anti-Semite, even one time ordering me to wear Jewish clothing and attend a press conference of his Democrat opponent who was exposing his links to Anti-Semitic groups. I felt used.

(For the record, Ron did not know I was Jewish until I had already been hired.)

Ron and I finally departed ways, partly because I was ashamed to work for such an explicitly anti-Israel advocate.

If you still doubt his anti-Jewish/anti-Israel views, ask yourself this question:

Why is it that when Ron Paul talks about the evils of taxpayer dollars going overseas for foreign aid, he only singles out Israel as a recipient? Why does he never mention the billions we send each year to Egypt for foreign aide? Turkey, the Palestinians, other Nations? Never a peep out of Paul about those dollars. It’s just always the “Jews.”

Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
US Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)
1997-2003

Some opinions of Ron Paul on 'neo-cons', a convenient codeword.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0N0iqUiaTs&feature=related

Almost all the names mentioned are joos.
 
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