Merged James Madison on Various Topics

It is the duty of a Patriot to resist unjust laws.

Capital "P"? Whatever.

Complex laws are not automatically unjust. The hearsay rules of evidence are stupifying at times but they exist to maintain justice.

Rules are meant to be broken, they say.

"They" are stupid. Laws are meant to be followed. Why do you think you end up in jail for breaking them? Is that some kind of reward?
 
Has anyone pointed out that the Federal Government's so called aid to Haiti historically includes murdering them by the thousands, a la the Duvaliers' reign of terror?

Before one donates to an organization, one should always consider the organizations historical reputation. This includes government.


Why would they point that out? It's completely irrelevant.


Do you really donate money to the government? Why?
 
Instead, I will heed the great wisdom of our greatest Founding Father, the beloved James Madison.

The wisdom that says I shouldn't be able to marry my wife? The wisdom that says I shouldn't exist at all?

Why do you think people suffering in a horrible situation is fodder for a joke?
 
When did Galileo become the DOC of politics? I mean, he had his own brand of crazy and now he's just copying someone else's lunacy! Come on, Big G! I know you can do better than this!
 
Has anyone pointed out that the Federal Government's so called aid to Haiti historically includes murdering them by the thousands, a la the Duvaliers' reign of terror?

Before one donates to an organization, one should always consider the organizations historical reputation. This includes government.

Well, thanks for the reminder. I guess now I'll start campaigning that the German government immediately stops all foreign aid, because it killed a ton of foreigners between 1939 and 1945 ;)
 
A perfect example of political fundamentalism: the inerrant words of the founding fathers should be the unchanging template from which all policies spring.
Insert "based on the documents they wrote and were subsequently enacted into binding law" between your last two words and you'd have it exactly correct.

Of course, they weren't blind to the fact that circumstances can change, which is why they included Article V - the amendment process.
 
You just want me to appeal to your authority. According to your authority, I should not appeal to the authority of James Madison. But since I will not bow to your authority, I will not bow to your proclamations.

Instead, I will heed the great wisdom of our greatest Founding Father, the beloved James Madison.

Nope. You've tried that argument twice now. Earlier you claimed that our criticism of your bogus appeal to authority represented an appeal to Upchurch's authority, and now you're claiming it's an appeal to mine.

It's not. You're just wrong.

You should maybe read this: http://www.fallacyfiles.org/authorit.html
to have a clue what you're talking about wrt to making arguments from authority. (See especially the exposition that lists the requirements for an appeal to authority to be legitimate. See especially numbers 2 and number 4 on that list.)
 
Is the "truther" trying to make an argument that the Constitution doesn't allow Congress to set Foreign Policy?
 
Is the "truther" trying to make an argument that the Constitution doesn't allow Congress to set Foreign Policy?

I think his argument is based on a quotation by the "father of the Constitution" on the topic of Haitian refugees in 1794. I don't think he's pointing to anything in the Constitution.
 
I think his argument is based on a quotation by the "father of the Constitution" on the topic of Haitian refugees in 1794. I don't think he's pointing to anything in the Constitution.
That's exactly the point. It ain't there, so it ain't authorized.
 
Madison’s Gift to America

Madison’s Gift to America

A new study points to the Virginian’s emphasis on civic virtue.


15 January 2010

James Madison and the Spirit of Republican Self-Government, by Colleen A. Sheehan (Cambridge University Press, 204pp.)

In her excellent new study, Colleen A. Sheehan argues that James Madison is preeminent among the Founders in his insistence on the civic cultivation of public opinion. Madison’s purposes, seemingly inconsistent at different points of his political career, ultimately cohere, she believes, in his quest to secure republican self-government in the infant nation.

Madison’s record as statesman, polemicist, and intellectual has rarely been adequately understood, even by our most thoughtful historians and scholars. Scholars from Progressive-era thinker Charles Beard to Martin Diamond, J.G.A. Pocock, and Gordon Wood more recently, locate Madison’s political contribution primarily in the mechanics of the Constitution that he shaped. The survival of elected government, under the Madisonian Constitution’s innovative structuralism, famously depends on the interplay between the enlarged sphere of the continental republic, the separation of powers, and institutional self-interest. Free and limited government would find its lasting guarantor in the struggle among the clashing interests of the federal government and civil society. Madison’s equation also placed great weight on the power of the federal government and the elites that would fill its ranks. If the American republic was to avoid the passions that crippled ancient and classical republics, a strong federal government would be necessary to temper the public mood.

Sheehan’s emphasis is different. She begins with a Madison whose faith in self-government had been shaken after American independence, thanks to the states’ majoritarian abuses of property rights, threatened and actual public rebellions, and the near impotence of the government operating under the Articles of Confederation. The young statesman faced the discomfiting reality that majority rule had not remained virtuous—or even lawful—in the young nation. Madison wanted to find the right remedy for this ancient republican disease.
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Richard M. Reinsch is a program officer at Liberty Fund, Inc., and is the author of the forthcoming book Whittaker Chambers: The Spirit of a Counter-Revolutionary to be published by ISI Books.

http://www.city-journal.org/2010/bc0115rr.html

This is an excellent essay. Please read it, you might learn something.

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