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It's time for a Ted Cruz thread.

Tony Stark said:
If I had to pick between Trump and Cruz, it would be Trump and it isn't even a hard question. For example, I can see Cruz vetoing bills that aren't 100% in his favor while Trump would probably at least try to work towards a deal. I suppose that Cruz could mostly be neutralized if 2/3 of both the Senate and House are against him, but I wouldn't count on that happening.
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Ladewig said:
Not at first. But I have faith that Cruz could be crazy enough to create bipartisanship among strange bedfellows.

ETA although I do see your point. If Trump hit an impasse he could be flexible enough to try another approach. Cruz seems like a God-said-it-I-believe-it-so-get-out-of-my-way kind of guy. Doubling down no matter what the cost in time, money, or resources.
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Lesser of two extreme evils, you've got there. Fortunately we'll have Hillary or Bernie as an option. Unless Biden changes his mind.
 
Here's a video of an eighteen year old Ted saying that his two aspirations in life are to appear in a teen tit movie, and world domination.




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steve s said:
Here's a video of an eighteen year old Ted saying that his two aspirations in life are to appear in a teen tit movie, and world domination.




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I thought this would be a parody but it is pretty clearly him.
 
steve s said:
Here's a video of an eighteen year old Ted saying that his two aspirations in life are to appear in a teen tit movie, and world domination.




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As I said on the previous page, Meh.

Eighteen-year-olds say stupid things every hour. And they say twice as many stupid things if you ask them about the future. He was clowning around and ended up sounding like an ass. Nothing worth noting.

Disclaimer: I think Cruz is a dangerous man who could set back the country by many years. I just don't think him trying to be funny as a teenager is a sign of anything.
 
Ladewig said:
As I said on the previous page, Meh.

Eighteen-year-olds say stupid things every hour. And they say twice as many stupid things if you ask them about the future. He was clowning around and ended up sounding like an ass. Nothing worth noting.

Disclaimer: I think Cruz is a dangerous man who could set back the country by many years. I just don't think him trying to be funny as a teenager is a sign of anything.
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He might have been dead serious, too. He was already deep in with the Christian dominionists and free-market quasi-libertarian folks seeking world domination at that age. It's what he was raised to do.
 
kellyb said:
He might have been dead serious, too. He was already deep in with the Christian dominionists and free-market quasi-libertarian folks seeking world domination at that age. It's what he was raised to do.
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Even if it were the most sincere and honest thing he ever said, I don't think I would put it in the 15 scariest or craziest things he has ever said or done.
 
Tero said:
Ted Cruz's parents show up on Canadian election rolls in 1974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl7IOH3QPwU
there was no Canadian US dual citizenship for the mom till 1978.
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So you did not read the responses to this silly foolish nonsense with the facts provided earlier? Cruz's mother always was, and always will be a US citizen, unless she takes actual legal steps to renounce it. She never was, and never will be, a Canadian even if she actually claims to be. She does not and did not qualify for Canadian citizenship. Appearing on the election roll proves nothing except that someone made a clerical error.
 
Desperation breeds whoops.

False representation of federal act in Cruz mailer:

The mailer gave the recipient, along with their neighbors, poor grades based on their individual voting history. On one side, the mailer reads: "ELECTION ALERT: VOTER VIOLATION," "PUBLIC RECORD" and "FURTHER ACTION NEEDED."
The other side of the mailer says "VOTING VIOLATION" in red letters at the top...
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But the Secretary of state begs to differ:

"There is no such thing as an election violation related to frequency of voting. Any insinuation or statement to the contrary is wrong and I believe it is not in keeping in the spirit of the Iowa Caucuses."

Pate continued, "Additionally, the Iowa Secretary of State's Office never 'grades' voters.
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Though I guess Cruz does not yet see it as a whoops.

"I will apologize to no one for using every tool we can to encourage Iowa voters to come out and vote"
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But he's right: lies can often be an effective tool.
 
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Darat said:
Does Canada allow legal residents to vote? If so it may not be a clerical error.
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No. You must be a Canadian citizen. It used to be a "British Subject" thus allowing (some) citizens of Commonwealth countries to vote but that was quite a time ago and not relevant to the current issue.
When I check the historical record of voters lists, I find I was on a list in the 1960s in a location in which I have never lived. I have no idea why and nothing otherwise indicates that I have ever been a victim of identity fraud.
 
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Overall this is really one of the most fascinating GOP elections to watch in a while. That party adopted the Bible (with a fairly literal and apocalyptic interpretation, ) as part of their platform back in the early Billy Graham days. It was a very effective move and got them lots of votes and support. But as science and society progresses, being too literal about it has become a large liability. I believe what we are seeing is the gradual ejection of that element from their platform. It is going to be a very painful process for them, but I also believe they will eventual achieve it somehow, and a less religious GOP will emerge.
 
Darat said:
Does Canada allow legal residents to vote? If so it may not be a clerical error.
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The thing is, even if it wasn't a clerical error, even assuming the worst that she was actively committing voting fraud in Canada, it still doesn't matter. Even if she were convicted, it would have no effect on her US citizenship or Ted's.
 
Denver said:
Overall this is really one of the most fascinating GOP elections to watch in a while. That party adopted the Bible (with a fairly literal and apocalyptic interpretation, ) as part of their platform back in the early Billy Graham days. It was a very effective move and got them lots of votes and support. But as science and society progresses, being too literal about it has become a large liability. I believe what we are seeing is the gradual ejection of that element from their platform. It is going to be a very painful process for them, but I also believe they will eventual achieve it somehow, and a less religious GOP will emerge.
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I am not sure I agree with you.

What evidence do you present that the party is ejecting religious fundamentalists? The party doesn't seem to be rejecting Ted Cruz.

Every candidate, including Trump, felt the need to kowtow to the religious folks at Liberty University.
 
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Ladewig said:
I am not sure I agree with you.

What evidence do you present that the party is ejecting religious fundamentalists? The party doesn't seem to be rejecting Ted Cruz.

Every candidate, including Trump, felt the need to kowtow to the religious folks at Liberty University.
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Some of the party certainly is not. As part of the ejection from the mainline, we are seeing a split: for some candidates, the defense mechanisms of that religious meme will exert themselves more and more (as they always do when threatened). Cruz is an example of that part.

As it becomes evident that the candidates who continue to embrace fundamentalism as a core of their platform do less and less well in the outcomes, I predict we'll start seeing two things: First, more candidates will pull back from that stance, do well, attract others, and further the split (Trump may lead the way here); and second, the defense mechanisms will ramp to 11 and we'll see martyr-like violence ramp up surrounding the election process.

While both parties may continue to kowtow at some level to anyone with a pocket book, the stress on being the party, or even the nation, of the bible has already been dropping at least the last generation. It seems only probable that the successful candidates would reflect that.
 
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