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It's time for a Ted Cruz thread.

KDLarsen said:
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Sorry. If the mods want to delete the link, it's fine with me. It's too late for me to edit.
 
Ziggurat said:
The NYT found out about these secret loans.... from Cruz's public disclosures. Wow, how dastardly and nefarious. And the loans were also at standard interest rates. Does his villainy know no bounds?
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It depends. Did he have the standard collateral the loan companies would have required from the rest of us?
 
Ziggurat said:
The NYT found out about these secret loans.... from Cruz's public disclosures. Wow, how dastardly and nefarious. And the loans were also at standard interest rates. Does his villainy know no bounds?
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The law said he was required to file Federal Election Commission documents. He did not. I will not call him nefarious or villainous, but I will call him a lawbreaker.

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Skeptic Ginger said:
It depends. Did he have the standard collateral the loan companies would have required from the rest of us?
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I think he used the family's stock portfolio for collateral, so he did not get special treatment. I could be wrong.
 
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Ladewig said:
The law said he was required to file Federal Election Commission documents. He did not. I will not call him nefarious or villainous, but I will call him a lawbreaker.
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So is everyone who goes faster than the posted speed limit, ie, almost everyone.

Furthermore, I'm not sure the violation even attaches to him personally rather than his campaign. If you try to cheat on your taxes, you get in trouble, but if you give all the necessary information to a tax professional and that person simply forgets to fill out one required form, you aren't going to be in trouble.

I think he used the family's stock portfolio for collateral, so he did not get special treatment. I could be wrong.
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The NYT article says that he did not get special treatment.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
Good thing then that he is not beholden to Wall Street as some other candidates might be.

Ooops.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-wall-street-loan-senate-bid-2012.html
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I don't think getting a margin loan qualifies as making someone beholden to the broker. It does mean you have a debt to a broker. A debt that is less than the amount of securities that you hold in the brokerage account.

I have frequently taken out margin loans. They are fast, easy and relatively low rates. I never felt beholden.

It was a large amount to not report in relation to his total loans.
 
Trebuchet said:
Of all the stuff to dislike Cruz for, and there's a lot of it, this sounds like about the most trivial.
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I agree. Cruz might be the only GOP candidate worse than Trump, and it's not because of stuff like this. This is like criticizing Al Capone for the tax dodging.
 
Mike Huckabee might be worse as well, but since he's going nowhere fast I don't worry about him.

Debate tonight. I'd love to see gay rights/marriage come up, but it's on Fox.
 
A creepy little dominionist for president. Nothing bad can come out of that, right?
 
Trebuchet said:
Debate tonight. I'd love to see gay rights/marriage come up, but it's on Fox.
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Well, it did come, just a little bit, when Cruz talked about New York liberals approving of gay rights and abortion. Trump and other New Yorkers are not happy with him. A calculated move, probably, since a Republican isn't likely to take NY anyhow and it'll play well with the segment of the Iowa population he's after.
 
Trebuchet said:
Well, it did come, just a little bit, when Cruz talked about New York liberals approving of gay rights and abortion. Trump and other New Yorkers are not happy with him. A calculated move, probably, since a Republican isn't likely to take NY anyhow and it'll play well with the segment of the Iowa population he's after.
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That's the was I see it, and it makes me angry. Cruz decides that he can't win New York, so it doesn't matter how mad New Yorkers get. It's a very divisive form of politics. He should have some sense that he's running to be President of everybody. Instead, he just wants his electoral votes.
 
Loss Leader said:
That's the was I see it, and it makes me angry. Cruz decides that he can't win New York, so it doesn't matter how mad New Yorkers get. It's a very divisive form of politics. He should have some sense that he's running to be President of everybody. Instead, he just wants his electoral votes.
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He doesn't give two flying intercourses about anybody that isn't his brand of Christian, which consists of himself and his insane father. Being president of everybody is just his opportunity to tell them how they should live.
 
Trebuchet said:
Well, it did come, just a little bit, when Cruz talked about New York liberals approving of gay rights and abortion. Trump and other New Yorkers are not happy with him. A calculated move, probably, since a Republican isn't likely to take NY anyhow and it'll play well with the segment of the Iowa population he's after.
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What fraction of Florida's voting population is ex-New Yorkers, I wonder.
 
Four Americans, including a Christian pastor, are being released from Iran in a prisoner exchange. Cruz was just on thanking God and prayers for his releases. No apparent concern for the other three, of course, or thanks to those who actually accomplished the release, Barrack Obama and John Kerry.

Cue the rest of the field criticizing Obama/Kerry for the process in 3...2...1...
 
Alan Grayson, who says he'll challenge Cruz's eligibility to be POTUS if Cruz is nominated, is now saying it's recently come out that Cruz's mom voted in Canada and therefore had to have become a Canadian citizen, further clouding Cruz's eligibility.

Ted Cruz's Mother Was On Official List Of Canadian Citizens Eligible To Vote

Grayson looks so delighted to be throwing the birther issue back into the GOP camp. But Mother Jones is reporting that someone beat Grayson to the punch.

Here's Why the Ted Cruz Birther Story Isn't Going Away - A lawsuit was just filed questioning his eligibility to serve as president. And that's not all.
In fact, one was filed that same day by Houston lawyer Newton Boris Schwartz Sr. The suit asks a federal judge to define the "(1) status (2) qualifications and (3) eligibility or ineligibility of defendant for election to the office of the President and vice President of the United States." In the poorly written, 28-page complaint, Schwartz noted that this question is "now ripe for decision," and then invoked the so-called birther arguments used against President Barack Obama (see the full complaint below):
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