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Is racism morally wrong?

What we have here by some people is the rather common mistake of confusing patriotism with racism. Apparently, in some people's thinking, once one is done with duties to one's immediate family, the only other group of people one can have loyalty to is humanity at large. There is no preference to be given to one's town, or neighborhood, or country, or religious community.

Nonsense! The truth of the matter is that we all have many loyalties to many groups, groups which -- if our loyalty is worth anything -- means they have some right to make demands on us. It is right to go clean up one's town's streets on a weekend because it is your town, or cheer the local hockey team. It is good to chip in to care of a relative who fell upon hard times before one gives to a stranger because he is our relative.

Racism is not to think that one has loyalty to one's nation. It is to think that one's loyalty must be exclusively to one's nation -- to the exclusion of all other wider loyalties. Similarly, the "humanity-only" people claim here, not that one has duties to humanity as well as to one's nation or town, but that the only type of loyalty that matters is to humanity at large (except perhaps for one's family).

Both the "only humanity at large matters" and the "only my race matters" are asking us to be inhuman: one is asking us to treat someone of a different race as if he does not exist. The other asks us to treat with equanimity people who are close to us as if they are strangers. In both cases they are asking us to curtail and deny our moral duties to help others, because those others, in the racist's or the "humanist"'s view, "don't deserve" it.

This sort of racism is better in some ways than 'regular' racism. If worse comes to worse, it concedes that at least our relatives and townspeople and nation deserve as much as strangers. Racists and jingoists often think people of other races or nations count for nothing at all.

However, it is also worse in some ways, namely, in its hypocritical attitude. At least it is possible to love one's nation fanatically to the exclusion of all other loyalties. But humanity is so large, diverse, and vague a thing nobody can truly love it in general. I am quite sure the people who claim to "love humanity" are simply lying: it is just a fashionable thing they say, which really means, "look at me! I am smarter and more rational than you, I have no irrational feelings of pride or community towards anything so random and imperfect as my local home town or my in-laws!"
 
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It's less obvious that those communities are racially homogeneous. I know Arcade is unfamiliar with America, but the Arab might be the guy down the street, while the Swede could be from... Sweden (it happens sometimes, I hear).

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Us pasty-faced whiteys are in the minority here in Palmdale. There's many "other than whites" from all over the world just locally.
I enjoy the differences! :)
More Arabs than Swedes, I'd bet.
 
What we have here by some people is the rather common mistake of confusing patriotism with racism. Apparently, in some people's thinking, once one is done with duties to one's immediate family, the only other group of people one can have loyalty to is humanity at large. There is no preference to be given to one's town, or neighborhood, or country, or religious community.

Nonsense! The truth of the matter is that we all have many loyalties to many groups, groups which -- if our loyalty is worth anything -- means they have some right to make demands on us. It is right to go clean up one's town's streets on a weekend because it is your town, or cheer the local hockey team. It is good to chip in to care of a relative who fell upon hard times before one gives to a stranger because he is our relative.

Racism is not to think that one has loyalty to one's nation. It is to think that one's loyalty must be exclusively to one's nation -- to the exclusion of all other wider loyalties. Similarly, the "humanity-only" people claim here, not that one has duties to humanity as well as to one's nation or town, but that the only type of loyalty that matters is to humanity at large (except perhaps for one's family).

Both the "only humanity at large matters" and the "only my race matters" are asking us to be inhuman: one is asking us to treat someone of a different race as if he does not exist. The other asks us to treat with equanimity people who are close to us as if they are strangers. In both cases they are asking us to curtail and deny our moral duties to help others, because those others, in the racist's or the "humanist"'s view, "don't deserve" it.

This sort of racism is better in some ways than 'regular' racism. If worse comes to worse, it concedes that at least our relatives and townspeople and nation deserve as much as strangers. Racists and jingoists often think people of other races or nations count for nothing at all.

However, it is also worse in some ways, namely, in its hypocritical attitude. At least it is possible to love one's nation fanatically to the exclusion of all other loyalties. But humanity is so large, diverse, and vague a thing nobody can truly love it in general. I am quite sure the people who claim to "love humanity" are simply lying: it is just a fashionable thing they say, which really means, "look at me! I am smarter and more rational than you, I have no irrational feelings of pride or community towards anything so random and imperfect as my local home town or my in-laws!"

You seem to assume that all towns have a sense of community, something out of The Good Life or The Hobbit, akin to a family. I have as much friendship (I.e, none) with Joe Blogg's from Dalston than I do Mr Ahmed from Pakistan.
 
If a Palestinian sees two people hanging from a cliff, one a Jew and one an Arab, would it not be anti-Semitic if he specifically chose NOT to save the Jew?

i'd think so.
 
I bet you can't tell me with a straight face that you'd save David Duke over some random Belgian.

Well, I'm an Israeli, not an American.

But I won't tell you that. That's because David Duke is not a random American. He is an American who, by his racist and disgusting actions, made himself a pariah. Being a pariah means being treated as if one is a stranger one doesn't have any duties to. So in this case I would save the random Belgian over Duke (or over an Israeli equivalent, such as Kahane).

The whole point, if you read my next point, is that we have duties to our countrymen but they are not absolute -- they do not override all other duties. I would, for instance, save a Belgian child over an Israeli adult, since out duty to save children in general usually overrides our duties to countrymen.

But absolute devotion to consider only humanity in general is not much better than an absolute devotion to consider only one's own nation or race.

It is very easy to find theoretical examples where I, or anybody, would be hard pressed to determine what is the "right" decision from all our conflicting duties. But this doesn't mean "solving" the problem by saying we have only one duty -- whether to humanity or to our nation -- is a solution.
 
You seem to assume that all towns have a sense of community, something out of The Good Life or The Hobbit, akin to a family.

No. It's weaker than the sense of family. But it is still there. Anyway we're not talking about friendship, but about community or patriotism.

I have as much friendship (I.e, none) with Joe Blogg's from Dalston than I do Mr Ahmed from Pakistan.
You do? Suppose war was declared between Pakistan and the USA. Mr. Ahmed is now in one foxhole, Mr. Blogg in the opposite one. Would you tell me that it would be a matter of indifference to you which one shoots the other dead? Would you carefully weight how much you agree with each side's arguments for fighting the war, in the most objective way possible, and then decide, "on the preponderance of evidence" as it were, who should you root for?

(Again, our duty to our country is not absolute: of course, there are some circumstances when supporting Mr. Ahmend despite Mr. Blogg being a countryman would be justified: if, for example, the war is so obviously unjust on the USA's part that in fact you think Pakistan should win, like some Germans wanted Germany to lose WWII. But let assume that is not the case.)
 
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False dichotomy, I'd want neither to shoot the other one. If the war was truly so murky that no right or wrong could be picked out, then it's probably a really stupid war (see: Vietnam).
 
I don't have to justify why i feel proud of being Swedish and the things the Swedish people have accomplished i just DO.

So, which one of these two would you save:

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It is immoral to treat people differently based on factors they have no control over and have no bearing on the current situation.

It is stupid because you are treating people differently without rational cause.

Stupid/ignorant is not the same as immoral. It is stupid/ignorant to treat people differently without rational cause. But in what way does that make it immoral? Dropping a heavy object on my foot is stupid because I know thanks to gravity it will fall and hurt me. But is dropping a rock on my foot immoral?
 

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