Is Islam an evil religion?

[Craig B]

Firegarden

Pity you didn't read more. Ingersoll's description of the Church, cited by you, is accurate as regards the 19th century Catholic Church, and other powerful Christian Churches. But he is even-handed in his criticisms:

If we had been born in England, surrounded by wealth and clothed with power, most of us would have been Episcopalians, and believed in church and state. .. Had we been born in Turkey, most of us would have been Mohammedans and believed in the inspiration of the Koran. ... If some man had denied this story we should probably have denounced him as a dangerous person, one who was endeavoring to undermine the foundations of society, and to destroy all distinction between virtue and vice. .. We would have pointed out to him the fact that thousands had been consoled in the hour of death by passages from the Koran; that they had died with glazed eyes brightened by visions of the heavenly harem, and gladly left this world of grief and tears. We would have regarded Christians as the vilest of men, and on all occasions would have repeated "There is but one God, and Mohammed is his prophet!"

And the general tone of the piece as a whole is positive and conciliatory, as anyone will see who, undaunted by your disparagement, reads more than a few words of it.

 

[JudeBrando]

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It's the SAME stupid god; jesus christ, who doesn't know that!!!!!

Allah is not Jesus Christ.

Allah is not the God of the Bible.

Allah is not the God of Israel.

 

[Dayan81]

It speaks only of their predominant concern and motivation- a foremost hatred of Judaism and Christianity- the God of the Bible...

Defending Muslim & Islam against ignorant & bigoted lies & exagerations=hatred of Judaism & Christianity?

That's fascinating.

And by the way, the God of the Bible is the same as the God of the Koran.

Allah, which is the Arabic word for "God", has the same linguistic root as the Hebrew words for God...Elo-him & Elo-heynu.

 

[Dayan81]

..Allah is not the God of the Bible.

Allah is not the God of Israel.

You are 100% wrong. See my above post.

 

[JudeBrando]

Defending Muslim & Islam against ignorant & bigoted lies & exagerations=hatred of Judaism & Christianity?

That's fascinating.

And by the way, the God of the Bible is the same as the God of the Koran.

Al-lah, which is the Arabic word for "God", has the same linguistic root as the Hebrew words for God...Elo-him & Elo-heynu.

And by the way, Wrong.

So if I call my dog "God," and worship him as God, that then would mean and would make him the same God of the Bible and Allah?

 

[Bill Thompson]

Craig is back !!
Here to accusing me of endorsing genocide again?

 

[Bill Thompson]

There are more than 1 billion Muslims on Earth. A vast-majority of them have no intention of abandoning their faith and converting to another one.

That said, how do you suggest we "thin the herd"?

Bullets, artillery, nuclear weapons, or VX gas?

How the hell do you think you can stop a religion by genocide?

No, sssssssmart guy, thinning the heard means deciding which religions can get along with the other ones and which ones cannot based on what they believe.

(whew, I almost typed "stupid")

 

[I Ratant]

Allah is not Jesus Christ.

Allah is not the God of the Bible.

Allah is not the God of Israel.

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The monotheists are all "people of THE book!"
Guess which book that is?
Just has different names.
Talmud, Torah, Bible, Quran... same book. Same imaginary big sky daddy.

 

[I Ratant]

And by the way, Wrong.

So if I call my dog "God," and worship him as God, that then would mean and would make him the same God of the Bible and Allah?

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It would be even more effective.
Your dog actually exists, and returns your favor with his unbounded love, unlike the sadist of "the book".

 

[DC]

Allah is not Jesus Christ.

Allah is not the God of the Bible.

Allah is not the God of Israel.

That is like saying Anakin Skywalker is not Darth Vader.

or just because you dislike the last Harry Potter book, claiming that the Harry Potter in the last book is not Harry Potter.

 

[Bill Thompson]

That is like saying Anakin Skywalker is not Darth Vader.

or just because you dislike the last Harry Potter book, claiming that the Harry Potter in the last book is not Harry Potter.

What is your point?

Let me guess. You don't have one.

 

[Dayan81]

If you want freedom of religion, you have to ... remove the religions ....

In order to protect & defend freedom of religion, we must first destroy & erase freedom of religion.

I didn't read all of 1984 but I believe such logic would fit right in.

 

[Dayan81]

...No, sssssssmart guy, thinning the heard means deciding which religions can get along with the other ones and which ones cannot based on what they believe...

Exactly how do you plan on removing the "bad" religions in order to protect the "good" religions?

Force conversion? Forced exile of those who refuse to comply?

Its curious how the ones who hate Islam's supposed evil seek to totally replicate their supposed evil deeds.

And by the way, its spelled "herd", not heard.

 

[Dayan81]

And by the way, Wrong.

So if I call my dog "God," and worship him as God, that then would mean and would make him the same God of the Bible and Allah?

Fact: the word Allah has the same root as Elo-heynu & Elo-him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim#Etymology

The Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible defines "elohim" as a plural of eloah, an expanded form of the common Semitic noun "'il" (ʾēl).[7] It contains an added heh as third radical to the biconsonantal root. Discussions of the etymology of elohim essentially concern this expansion. An exact cognate outside of Hebrew is found in Ugaritic ʾlhm, the family of El, the creator god and chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon, in Biblical Aramaic ʼĔlāhā and later Syriac Alaha "God", and in Arabic ʾilāh "god, deity" (or Allah as " The [single] God").

 

[DC]

What is your point?

Let me guess. You don't have one.

i know you hate it when falsehoods from the islamophobe side gets pointed out. get over it bill.

 

[Craig B]

JudeBrando

Eloi eloi lama sabachthani. That's Jesus quoting Psalm 22, using a Semitic word for god, similar to "Allah". The Persians speak a language of the same family as the main European tongues, so according to wiki:

Khuda or Khoda ( خدا ) is the Persian word for "Lord" or "(monotheistic) God" formerly used of Ahura Mazda, today mostly of God in Islam by Persian speakers, and as a loanword in Hindi and Urdu. The term is originally from a Middle Persian honorific.

In short, their word is like the English word. Also, the people of Malta, who claim their island is the oldest Christian country - from Paul's shipwreck there - call god "Alla", simply because their language is a form of Arabic. See wiki on Allah:

Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/ or /ˈɑːlə/;[1] Arabic: الله Allāh, ... is a word for God, mostly used in the context of Islam. In Arabic, it is the standard word for "God," used not only by Muslims, but also by Bahá'ís, Eastern Catholic Christians, Maltese Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Mizrahi Jews and Sikhs.

Semitic word for god - any god - used by Jews, Christians, Muslims and others, is Eloi, Allah, or something of the kind. Indo-European words for god, used by Christians, Muslims and others, include God, Khoda, and so on. Got it? Word determined by language, not religion.

 

[bikerdruid]

And by the way, Wrong.

So if I call my dog "God," and worship him as God, that then would mean and would make him the same God of the Bible and Allah?

jude....'god' is a job description, not a name.

 

[I Ratant]

How the hell do you think you can stop a religion by genocide?

No, sssssssmart guy, thinning the heard means deciding which religions can get along with the other ones and which ones cannot based on what they believe.

(whew, I almost typed "stupid")

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OK, start by eliminating those religions that espouse crusades and jihads.
Then those with aggressive recruiting.
The Shakers were non-aggessive .
They all vanished, peacefully.

 

[Craig B]

Craig is back !!
Here to accusing me of endorsing genocide again?

That's what's known as, getting your ad hominem in first. But Bill, from me you will receive only reason. Except where I find it necessary to cite something you have written, of course.

 

[Leumas]

Allah is not Jesus Christ.

Allah is not the God of the Bible.

Allah is not the God of Israel.

If you go to this site where they have an Arabic Bible and have a look at where the word in the bible is God you will notice that the Arabic word used is Allah (اللهُ)


Here is an image of Genesis 1:1-8 You will notice the use of the word اللهُ all over the place.

Arabic speaking Jews and christians for CENTURIES before Mohammad used the word Allah to mean God and for Centuries After Muhammad they continued to do so.



1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.