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Is Castro Already Dead?

dann said:
Aren't you the guy with this in his sig line, Darat?
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Since you know the answer to that question I presume there is meant to be some point in you asking what was therefore a rhetorical question?

dann said:
Why do you think that Castro is/was "ruthless"?
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Presumably because of the environment his genes were expressed in.


dann said:
And why do you think that "the world will be every so slightly a better place" when death destroys him and thus seperates him "from the rest of us"?
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Because I think the changes that will result from his death will be for the better, for example I think it will make it more likely that the USA will alter its ludicrous foreign policy in regards to Cuba to something less harmful for the Cuban people.

dann said:
Don't you find it weird that an allegedly ruthless dictator creates a free health system, which may not be the very best in the world, but still very good considering what Cuba has to make good with?
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No.
 
PS I was in Habana this summer when Castro was reported ill and the power delegated to his brother Raul. Not only did I not see any scenes like in Miami with its jubilant Cuban expats, I also didn't see anybody smirking or looking forward to Castro's death, and the circles I was moving in did not consist of people loyal to el jefe and the Communist party.
 
Darat said:
Since you know the answer to that question I presume there is meant to be some point in you asking what was therefore a rhetorical question?
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Well, I would say that one contradicts the other, but maybe that's just me.
Presumably because of the environment his genes were expressed in.
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As a joke it isn't worth much.
Because I think the changes that will result from his death will be for the better, for example I think it will make it more likely that the USA will alter its ludicrous foreign policy in regards to Cuba to something less harmful for the Cuban people.
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I don't think so, unless Castro's successors impose a domestic policy that is more harmful to the Cubans.
 
dann said:
PS I was in Habana this summer when Castro was reported ill and the power delegated to his brother Raul. Not only did I not see any scenes like in Miami with its jubilant Cuban expats, I also didn't see anybody smirking or looking forward to Castro's death, and the circles I was moving in did not consist of people loyal to el jefe and the Communist party.
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One can only hope that your eyewitness account of Cuba was irrelevant as usual and that Cuba is quickly turned into a capitalist society which can better the living conditions and hopes of the poor souls currently caged there.
 
Darat said:
However it could soon get a bit worse depending on what happens after he dies, from everything that I've read I'd say that his actual power has already been passed on but that doesn't mean there won't be a lot of disruption when he actually dies (or if he is already dead when it is officially announced).
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Viva la revolucion!

DR
 
dann said:
If you don't see it, you don't see it ...
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Since you can't explain the contradiction and I can't see one I think it is more likely that you were mistaken and there is no contradiction.

And if I am mistaken and you can explain it why won't you?
 
DanishDynamite said:
One can only hope that your eyewitness account of Cuba was irrelevant as usual and that Cuba is quickly turned into a capitalist society which can better the living conditions and hopes of the poor souls currently caged there.
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People like you usually buy the propaganda from the US about the current situation in Cuba. Most of you are ignorant of how Cubans really feel about the whole Castro´s regime.
I´ve been in Cuba many times and talked to many people, all from different backgrounds and this gives me a more realistic perspective about what Castro represents to them. Most of them are aware that the economic limitations they face are due to the US embargo and not because of socialism. Most of them are very proud of all the achievements and recognise that Castro has been a key element to get this. He gave priority to education, health, sports and technology instead of stealing money as MOST of the Latin American presidents have done. You cannot eliminate this from history.
I am sure most of the Cuban population is genuinely concerned about Castro´s health and they just hope things will go well in the future transition to another sort of regime.
 
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I don't have any strong views on Castro or Cuba, but I do consider it amusing that Americans don't realise that just about every other country has pretty much normal relations (in a non-carnal sense) with the place.

As far as I can see, the worst thing to come out of the Revolution was the fact the Gloria Estefan has a chance to market that terrible excuse for music! ;)
 
Architect said:
You've already seen the answer to that; it's free to everyone at the point of delivery. No limits on treatment.
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Really? No matter how desperately ill you may be, no matter how hopeless your prognosis, you have the right to demand, and the NHS the obligation to provide, every possible treatment for your illness or disease, no matter how cutting-edge and expensive that treatment may be? If you have a disease that can only be treated with a brand-new drug that costs 25,000 pounds a month, NHS will pay for it? If you need a combination heart/lung transplant, NHS will provide it for you, no matter what the cost, even if it means getting a suitable organ donor from Tibet?

But they are all free at the point of delivery, and regardless of ability to pay.
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That's not free. That's simply paying the cost of your health care ahead of time. That's no more free than your flat is free on the 15th of the month when you paid the rent on the first. Or, an even better example, it's no more free than your automobile insurance is free when it pays to repair your car after you've paid premiums for twenty years. Do you claim your automobile insurance is "free at the point of delivery"?

Nothing is free. Everything costs something. It's just a question of who pays for it and how.

And the more money you have available to pay for goods or services, generally, the better the quality of those goods or services you can get.

That's why Cuba's health care stinks. It's a poor country, and people can't afford to buy good health care, whether they buy their health care from the government monopoly, or if they were somehow able to obtain it on the black market. The care that Castro is getting today is a direct function of the poverty of his country, which is a direct function of the ruinous economic system he's imposed on it. I suppose there's a kind of rough justice in there somewhere.
 
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Q-Source said:
People like usually buy the propaganda from the US about the current situation in Cuba. Most of you are ignorant of how Cubans really feel about the whole Castro´s regime.
I´ve been in Cuba many times and talked to many people, all from different backgrounds and this gives me a more realistic perspective about what Castro represents to them. Most of them are aware that the economic limitations they face are due to the US embargo and not because of socialism. Most of them are very proud of all the achievements and recognise that Castro has been a key element to get this. He gave priority to education, health, sports and technology instead of stealing money as MOST of the Latin American presidents have done. You cannot eliminate this from history.
I am sure most of the Cuban population is genuinely concerned about Castro´s health and they just hope things will go well in the future transition to another sort of regime.
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I agree that it is very likely that Fidel actually believed that his economic theory and his revolution would be best for most people in his country. In this way, I salut him.

The fact of the matter, unfortunately, is that he was completely wrong. Cuba, while sharing what little prosperity and wealth it has, is decades behind all capitalist countries in advancing the general livelihood of its people.

Cuba, happily, has so much to offer. Once Fidel is gone, the country should have no problems prospering.
 
hgc said:
You know darn well what someone means when they say "free" healthcare, and you're trying to obliterate that meaning with word games.
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When Hillary said "free" health care, it sounded very expensive. I want it to be free, but life sucks and the money's got to come from someone, somewhere. Those MRI machines cost millions.
 
Darat said:
Since you can't explain the contradiction and I can't see one I think it is more likely that you were mistaken and there is no contradiction.

And if I am mistaken and you can explain it why won't you?
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Don´t be silly Darat. Either you believe in your sig line or you don´t.
It seems sometimes it doesn´t go with your prejudices. :D
 
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