Is anyone surprised that Kevin Trudeau...

Iamme said:
You have toxins in your body.
Old as the hills and very popular amongst snake oil sales men. What is the evidence that I have toxins in my body?

You have nurtritional deficiencies.
At one time Americans suffered from nutritional deficiencies. There is no evidence that this is now the case. Sure, there are incidents and excpetion but there is just no eviddence.

You have exposure to electromagnetic chaos.
Claptrap. Is there any evidence that we have more disease today than in the 50's? Any whatsoever.

You have mental and/or emotional stress.
Important to health but certainly not the factor that he claims.

"..your body will be alkaline, and when your pH wil be alkaline, you virtually can never get sick......People ask me, "How do I make my body alkaline?" The answer is always the same, "Go back to Chapter 6 in my (this) book....."
Debunked by James
 
Iamme said:
(subchapter) "Recommended Product DMSO and Hydrogen Peroxide"

"If there are two miracle products on the planet that can virtually help assisting in you curing virtually every disease it is DMSO and hydrogen peroxide. The reason you have never heard....is they are 100% unpatentable, and they are incredibly inexpensive..............................................when you flood your body with oxygen, your body alkaline goes from acidic to alkaline...viruses instantly die, cancer dies, and your energy level skyrocket."

"One particular hospital in Mexico has virtually a 100% succes rate in eliminating cancer in just a matter of weeks by giving intravenous ozone and hydrogen peroxide."

That sounds like an unbelievable claim and I would like to learn more about that claim...wouldn't you?
It is an unbelievable claim. Are you accepting it without evidence? Is there a mention of which hospital in Mexico?
 
How come life expectancy continues to rise? How come diseases that were downright scary 50 years ago do not exist? Why is there no equivalent to polio? Small Pox? The Plague? Trudeau's cures have been around for centuries yet people are living longer now. The mortality rate is lower now. How is this possible? How come bacterial infections don't kill as many people as they once did? How can you say things are worse when they are demonstrably better? The evidence is just too great. Things are better.
 
"The Wall Street Journal reported that the majority of university professors who give expert opinions on a particular subjet are paid by that company or industry to give specific opinion."

(subchapter) "Why organic?"

He gets into al the posons used in fertilizing, herbicides, fungicides...loaded with toxins and poisons. He says it can even get in a trunk of a tree and enter the fruit this way. Toxicity levels of food keeps going up..yet is almost zero in organic foods. he admits not everyone has problems due to this. But for those who do, it is due to immune system suppression.. he says it's not good to have food that never spoils and can last weeks and weeks. He said people have told him that they can't afford organic foods. He then asks them if they can afford cancer! Ha.

(subchapter) "The sun can cure disease"

(excerpt) "Does the sun cause skin to wrinnkle and look old? No. One of the things that the sun does is draw out from the body toxins to the skin. It also stimulates cell-regrowth, which actually makes you look younger and keeps your skin wrinkle free. Why then is it then that people who spend hours out in the sun have a tendency to have dried out skin and look older than they are?" You are dying to find out...AREN'T you?!!!!! Admit it! This is fascinating. He gives the answer. His approach, basically, is that all opinion is backwards, really...to put it simply. Causes attributed are false in the sense that the cause is not really the cause!

Come on, RandFan; the book only costs like $23 on sale at Borders on their current hot-sellers list. A lot of what he says..I have a feeling is true. We are living in a polluted world. He provides the causes and solutions. It makes sense. We really ARE going against natures ways and what nature (God?) has provided, naturally, because we think we are so smart and clever and can..well..take food preservation, for example. You going to deny he is wrong on this. They he is simply blowing hot air?
 
Iamme said:
"The Wall Street Journal reported that the majority of university professors who give expert opinions on a particular subjet are paid by that company or industry to give specific opinion."

(subchapter) "Why organic?"

He gets into al the posons used in fertilizing, herbicides, fungicides...loaded with toxins and poisons. He says it can even get in a trunk of a tree and enter the fruit this way. Toxicity levels of food keeps going up..yet is almost zero in organic foods. he admits not everyone has problems due to this. But for those who do, it is due to immune system suppression.. he says it's not good to have food that never spoils and can last weeks and weeks. He said people have told him that they can't afford organic foods. He then asks them if they can afford cancer! Ha.

(subchapter) "The sun can cure disease"

(excerpt) "Does the sun cause skin to wrinnkle and look old? No. One of the things that the sun does is draw out from the body toxins to the skin. It also stimulates cell-regrowth, which actually makes you look younger and keeps your skin wrinkle free. Why then is it then that people who spend hours out in the sun have a tendency to have dried out skin and look older than they are?" You are dying to find out...AREN'T you?!!!!! Admit it! This is fascinating. He gives the answer. His approach, basically, is that all opinion is backwards, really...to put it simply. Causes attributed are false in the sense that the cause is not really the cause!

Come on, RandFan; the book only costs like $23 on sale at Borders on their current hot-sellers list. A lot of what he says..I have a feeling is true. We are living in a polluted world. He provides the causes and solutions. It makes sense. We really ARE going against natures ways and what nature (God?) has provided, naturally, because we think we are so smart and clever and can..well..take food preservation, for example. You going to deny he is wrong on this. They he is simply blowing hot air?



Every single one of those claims can be debunked at www.quackwatch.org


Stop being a tool. This is mindless sales pitching and it has absolutely nothing to do with helping you live longer.

As for the alkalai bit, if you actually could ingest something that would change the Ph of you bloodstream, you would get very sick and possibly die. the only part of your body you can change the PH of with diet, is your urine, and that has no effect on your bloodstream.

So the book was 23 bucks? quackwatch is free. Why don't you go read that?
 
Iamme said:
Come on, RandFan; the book only costs like $23 on sale at Borders on their current hot-sellers list.
That's one mighty expensive wad of toilet paper you got there.
A lot of what he says..I have a feeling is true.
You have a feeling. Well that settles it. Gentlemen, it is time to stop all scientific research and peer review. Just go by whatever Iamme's feelings are and we'll all... die in our 30s.
We are living in a polluted world. He provides the causes and solutions. It makes sense.
It makes sense only if you ignore every bit of scientific knowledge gained in the last 200 years.
We really ARE going against natures ways and what nature (God?) has provided, naturally, because we think we are so smart and clever and can..well..take food preservation, for example. You going to deny he is wrong on this. They he is simply blowing hot air?
No, what he is doing is selling overpriced tripe to gullible or desperate people. Scamming. Defrauding.
 
Iamme said:
Vaccinations are bad!

"Vaccinations are drugs. They are poisons. They are diseased chemicals. You are injecting the little baby with viruses, drugs, chemicals and disease. The baby's immune system begins to act in a totally unnatural way and becomes susceptible to bacteria. Virtually every child then gets infections, primarily and ear infection. These infections were caused by the vaccines themselves. The doctor then prescribes more drugs in the form of antibiotics.......they cause a huge problem. They kill the friendly flora in the intestine, causing the bad flora, primarily Candida, to overgrow. This then carries on the rest of the person's life. The Candida yeast begins to overgrow, first starting in the intestine, then in the stomach, then through all the organs (he lists many)...such as thyroid and into the brain."

"The Candida begins to cause, or participate in the cause, of acid reflux, digestive disorders, MS, MD, thyroid problems, diabetes, liver problems, urinary tract infections, asthsma...virtually every other major disease."

"....it almost always goes back to Candida and/or nonprescription and prescription drugs. Those are the two main root causes for almost all disease.. The third major cause is your own mind. The stress and emotional challenges that you store in your mind. If you address these three things, virtually every single disease gets better or vanishes completely. I have seen people with (he lists a slew of major diseases by name) cured by handling these things (those things)."

"That is why I recommend doing a Candida cleanse.
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Lies lies lies and more lies that are easily refuted. Please tell me you are not so gullible Iamme!!

The immune system DOES NOT start acting in an unnatural way after vaccination. Vaccination wouldn't work if that were even partially true. The reason they work is because they utilize/mobilize the body's immunization system naturally.

The vaccines do not cause the diseases, and there is no way they make children more susceptible to bacterial infections. Idiotic conspiracy theory. Please use the links below to find out why.

Please read:
http://www.jrefwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=Vaccines_and_anti-vaccinators

I wrote that on the JREF Wiki, and you can also go to my website and learn more, access more resources, etc.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/eostory/AShot.html

Educate yourself for goodness sakes!
 
Some more subchapters:

Product Recommedation and Weight Loss Secret: organic, Unrefined, Virgin Coconut Oil

I Have Suerd the Federal Trade Commission

Kevin Trudeau Sues Federal Trade Commission for "False Advertising" (National Consumer Advocate and FTC Critic Seeks End to Ongoing Retaliation)

ABC's God Morning America Puts Out False and Misleading Story On Me and My Natural Cures Book

Get the Toxins Out and Cure Your Disease

More on DMSO

What People Are Saying

Get Rid of Your Silver Fillings

(chapter title) "No-Hunger Bread: A True FDA Horror Story" Story by Ben Suarez with his pernission for print.

(chapter title) "How To Find a Health-care Practiioner Who Doesn't Use Drugs and Surgery". He lsist 2 pages of websites.

Testimonials.

Quote-unquote: "The thing that bugs me is that the people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the people think it's doing are as different as night and day." The author of this quote? Get ready! herbert Lay, M.D., Former FDA Commissioner!!!!!!

Book is endorsed by Jim McMahon, ex-NFL quarterback. Als, Alex Haley's wife.

"Kevin Trudeau is fast becoming the nation's foremost consumer advocate." (on back inside cover of book)
 
RandFan said:
How come life expectancy continues to rise?

Because the drug companies are giving us substances to make us live longer so they can keep us fat and sick for longer so they can make more money by keeping us fat and sick. Jeez. Don't you see? There's a method there.

Fold a $20 bill the right way, and you'll see the truth, man. Nostradomus was right! It's all there! Other unreliable stuff!
 
Iamme said:
Some more subchapters:

Product Recommedation and Weight Loss Secret: organic, Unrefined, Virgin Coconut Oil

I Have Suerd the Federal Trade Commission

Kevin Trudeau Sues Federal Trade Commission for "False Advertising" (National Consumer Advocate and FTC Critic Seeks End to Ongoing Retaliation)

ABC's God Morning America Puts Out False and Misleading Story On Me and My Natural Cures Book

Get the Toxins Out and Cure Your Disease

More on DMSO

What People Are Saying

Get Rid of Your Silver Fillings

(chapter title) "No-Hunger Bread: A True FDA Horror Story" Story by Ben Suarez with his pernission for print.

(chapter title) "How To Find a Health-care Practiioner Who Doesn't Use Drugs and Surgery". He lsist 2 pages of websites.

Testimonials.

Quote-unquote: "The thing that bugs me is that the people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the people think it's doing are as different as night and day." The author of this quote? Get ready! herbert Lay, M.D., Former FDA Commissioner!!!!!!

Book is endorsed by Jim McMahon, ex-NFL quarterback. Als, Alex Haley's wife.

"Kevin Trudeau is fast becoming the nation's foremost consumer advocate." (on back inside cover of book)



How about you respond to our responses? Did you go read quackwatch.org?


By the way, that FDA comissioner died before the book was published.




Edited: I can't find my source that it was yewars before.
 
Iamme said:
"The Wall Street Journal reported that the majority of university professors who give expert opinions on a particular subjet are paid by that company or industry to give specific opinion."

(subchapter) "Why organic?"

He gets into al the posons used in fertilizing, herbicides, fungicides...loaded with toxins and poisons. He says it can even get in a trunk of a tree and enter the fruit this way. he admits not everyone has problems due to this. But for those who do, it is due to immune system suppression.. he says it's not good to have food that never spoils and can last weeks and weeks. He said people have told him that they can't afford organic foods. He then asks them if they can afford cancer! Ha.

(subchapter) "The sun can cure disease"

(excerpt) "Does the sun cause skin to wrinnkle and look old? No. One of the things that the sun does is draw out from the body toxins to the skin. It also stimulates cell-regrowth, which actually makes you look younger and keeps your skin wrinkle free. Why then is it then that people who spend hours out in the sun have a tendency to have dried out skin and look older than they are?" You are dying to find out...AREN'T you?!!!!! Admit it! This is fascinating. He gives the answer. His approach, basically, is that all opinion is backwards, really...to put it simply. Causes attributed are false in the sense that the cause is not really the cause!

Come on, RandFan; the book only costs like $23 on sale at Borders on their current hot-sellers list. A lot of what he says..I have a feeling is true. We are living in a polluted world. He provides the causes and solutions. It makes sense. We really ARE going against natures ways and what nature (God?) has provided, naturally, because we think we are so smart and clever and can..well..take food preservation, for example. You going to deny he is wrong on this. They he is simply blowing hot air?

Are you seriously falling for this???



Toxicity levels of food keeps going up..yet is almost zero in organic foods.

This is a lie. There are "organic" toxins that are allowed to be used as pesticides. You slap the labe "organic" on something and you get to chuck in "natural chemicals" that also contain other contaminants because the active ingredient is not isolated. We had a whole thread discussing this. Did you miss it??

Those annoying neighbors who are always bragging about their "toxic-free"
organic food will have to come up with a new brag. One of the most widely used organic pesticides, pyrethrum, has been declared a "likely human carcinogen" by a scientific advisory committee of the Environmental Protection Agency...

...Another organic-approved pesticide, rotenone, was recently proven to causethe symptoms of Parkinson's disease when administered to rats.

Finally, there's the ethical question. For decades, the organic movement accused the chemical companies of being literally careless about consumers, and especially children. They've claimed that marketing "carcinogenic" pesticides shows the companies are irresponsible at best and evil at worst.

So what happened when one of the organic movement's pesticides was caught in the same phony rat trap? They kept it a secret for two years. The secret was blown only when a pyrethrum supply company sued to get the EPA to ignore its own scientific conclusions. They justified both actions on the basis that" pyrethrum isn't really dangerous."
http://www.agbioworld.org/newsletter_wm/index.php?caseid=archive&newsid=1114
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52877


I can't believe you are swallowing the claims about sunlight either. Trudeau goes on about poisons and microwaves...but "natural" radiation is okay??? People do get aged and wrinkled skin because of the sunlight. Those that use sunscreens will look younger because they are protecting their skin from the harmful radiation.

All you have to do is look up sunlight and the effects of radiation. Please tell me you aren't swallowing these Trudeau lies!! He's telling you a horse is a cow and vice versa.

Ultraviolet radiation in sunlight:
Ultraviolet (or uv) radiation is a form of ionising radiation. It is found in sunlight and causes damage to the molecules in the skin. If this happens to DNA in skin cells it can cause skin cancer or malignant melanoma.

http://www.schoolscience.co.uk/content/4/biology/abpi/cancer/cancer7.html
 
Iamme said:

Quote-unquote: "The thing that bugs me is that the people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the people think it's doing are as different as night and day." The author of this quote? Get ready! herbert Lay, M.D., Former FDA Commissioner!!!!!!
When did he say it? What's the context?

Book is endorsed by Jim McMahon, ex-NFL quarterback. Als, Alex Haley's wife.
Oh well, if celebrities are endorsing it, we know it's true.
"Kevin Trudeau is fast becoming the nation's foremost consumer advocate." (on back inside cover of book)
If he says so himself it must be true.
 
Donks said:
When did he say it? What's the context?

Oh well, if celebrities are endorsing it, we know it's true.

If he says so himself it must be true.


He couldn't be saying it about that book, Donks. Lay died before the book was published.
 
Contents of book:

Disclaimer

Acknowledgements

Read this first

Introduction

I should be dead by now

What's wrong with health care in America?

It's all about the money

Who are "they"? (the "they" is in the title of his book; Natural Cures "They" Don't want you to know about)

Why are we sick?

How to never get sick again

Why people are fat

How to lose weight effortlessly and keep it off forever

How to read food labels

Not convinced?

Frequently asked questions

Still not convinced?

"Natural" cures for specific diseases

Naturalcures.com

The Solution

Appendixes A-C

About the author (page 571)

Note in preface: "All of the author's royalties on the sale of this book are being used to help fund the mission of educating people about natural health care and exposing corporate and government corruption." Hmmmmmm. What does this mean though? Who is making the money on the book? Is this clever wording double-talk? It could simply mean HE still makes all the money but with the money he is spending his money on educating people. But how do you verify this? It says ALL of the money. Really? ALL?
 
Are you reading my posts Iamme? Please tell me you are playing Devil's Advocate for Trudeau and you don't actually believe what he wrote in the book.

Otherwise, please refute my posts and tell me why Trudeau could possibly not be lying.
Note in preface: "All of the author's royalties on the sale of this book are being used to help fund the mission of educating people about natural health care and exposing corporate and government corruption."

Hmmmmmm. What does this mean though? Who is making the money on the book? Is this clever wording double-talk? It could simply mean HE still makes all the money but with the money he is spending his money on educating people. But how do you verify this? It says ALL of the money. Really? ALL?
Good question.

He is MISEDUCATING people with MISINFORMATION. I find this preface so very condescending. He's saying:

"Thanks for your money for my lies so that I may print more and more of them, and then laugh all the way to the bank"
 
fowlsound said:
He couldn't be saying it about that book, Donks. Lay died before the book was published.

Good knowledge and observance. I too noted when I read this that nothing really refers to Kevin's book. But, one can glean from the quote that the FDA is not what it purports either. And that on those merits alone, is interesting.
 
fowlsound said:
He couldn't be saying it about that book, Donks. Lay died before the book was published.
Yes, I know. I just hoping Iamme would dig up when he said it and what was the context.
 
Eos of the Eons said:
Are you reading my posts Iamme? Please tell me you are playing Devil's Advocate for Trudeau and you don't actually believe what he wrote in the book.

Otherwise, please refute my posts and tell me why Trudeau could possibly not be lying.

Sorry. I am not being evasive. Since I can only post like 27 1/2 wpm's...lol...I have been very busy as you can see, providing you guys with tantalizing stuff out of the book. I have more to say..but first I will address your post. Now let me see.......oh..I have to go back and read your post(s). :D
 
Iamme said:
Come on, RandFan; the book only costs like $23 on sale at Borders on their current hot-sellers list.
Well, if the gallery thinks it is good then it must be true.

Come on Iamme. Please don't resort to fallacy.

A lot of what he says..I have a feeling is true.
A "feeling"? It's the 21st century Iamme. People used to have many feelings that have been proven wrong. Let's stop huddling around the fire talking about feelings. Let's turn on the light, get an education and use the scientific method and empirical data. Do you dismiss the car? Do you dismiss airplanes? Do you dismiss the computer? These all exist because of the scientific method. People who accept science for some things and not others are arbitrary. This is neither logical nor rational.

We are living in a polluted world.
This has no meaning. Compared to what?

He provides the causes and solutions.
His notions have been thoroughly debunked and he has absolutely NO basis for making his assertions.

It makes sense.
To the naive and gullible it does.

We really ARE going against natures ways and what nature (God?) has provided, naturally, because we think we are so smart and clever and can..well..take food preservation, for example. You going to deny he is wrong on this. They he is simply blowing hot air?
It is demonstrable, it is empirical that we live longer, that we suffer less catastrophic illnesses and plagues. Yet this means nothing to you. You simply dismiss all of the evidence because something "seems" correct.

Look up the definition of "specious".
 

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