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Is anyone surprised that Kevin Trudeau...

Must. Not. Click. On. Link.

Noooooooooo!!!


Of course he has fans there...he speaks their freaky gobbledygook no-mind pseudoscientific conspiracy theorist fact-free fantasyland outrageous insanity ridden pfiffle.
Anyway, it was a shocking, stunning story that was hard to believe (although anything goes w/ the FDA, really). anyone can go on TV and tell these crazy stories,

but I don't believe it till I see the proof, you know?!

I'm sure a lot of this is true,


and the FDA and FTC are evil, the drug companies don't want to heal anyone just keep you needing the drugs, etc. But I want to know what these "cures" are that he keeps referring to.

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Anyway, the rest of the book is basically an expose' on how the food and drug industries are corrupt and keeping America sick and fat. It is an interesting book and not all "commonsense" to most of America (Mothering audience is a different story!).

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I have just purchased his book at Borders. It's 30% off right now. A very thick hard cover book. It is extremely fascinating. I am certain he is right on a lot of what he says. But I also think he is on some witch hunt in his belief that the FDA, pharmeceutical companies, etc., are conspiring to keep us sick and in need of drugs and foods that cause us to eat more, etc.

But I highly recommend you get the book. I am certain you will live longer for it. Honestly!
 
Iamme said:
I have just purchased his book at Borders. It's 30% off right now. A very thick hard cover book. It is extremely fascinating. I am certain he is right on a lot of what he says. But I also think he is on some witch hunt in his belief that the FDA, pharmeceutical companies, etc., are conspiring to keep us sick and in need of drugs and foods that cause us to eat more, etc.

But I highly recommend you get the book. I am certain you will live longer for it. Honestly!


Please be joking....
 
The man is a whore who has no problem endangering others to make a buck. Trudeau represents the very worst of humanity in that he harms many for personal reasons. If I had to venture a guess it could only be that he is at best an amoral socio-path. At worst he knows what he is doing is wrong but the money is just too good to pass up.
 
RandFan said:
The man is a whore who has no problem endangering others to make a buck. Trudeau represents the very worst of humanity in that he harms many for personal reasons. If I had to venture a guess it could only be that he is at best an amoral socio-path. At worst he knows what he is doing is wrong but the money is just too good to pass up.


I could not agree more.
 
No, I'm not joking. Kevin could be twisted in some of his logic...but not ALL of it. Even if he is 25% right and 75% mistaken conspiracy theories...that 25% could cause you to live longer. Honestly. I am mesmerized reading that book. I'm not kidding. it is a very easy to follow, easy to read book, and you can skim, if you want, very quickly, to cover a lot of ground on many subjectmatters he brings up.
 
Iamme said:
No, I'm not joking. Kevin could be twisted in some of his logic...but not ALL of it. Even if he is 25% right and 75% mistaken conspiracy theories...that 25% could cause you to live longer. Honestly. I am mesmerized reading that book. I'm not kidding. it is a very easy to follow, easy to read book, and you can skim, if you want, very quickly, to cover a lot of ground on many subjectmatters he brings up.



So, Coral calcium, vitamin C, Shark Cartelidge, and homeopathic remedies can cure cancer?

Evidence?

Evidence ANY of the therapies he sells work beyond placebo?


Edited to Add:

You're taking medical advice from someone who the FTC has two standing agreements that he will not market medical therapies, not to say that he has absolutely NO medical background?
 
fowlsound said:
Evidence ANY of the therapies he sells work beyond placebo?
Evidence? What is absolutely amazing is that he makes so many claims with such confidence based on nothing. Where does he come up with all of these assertions? Does he offer any basis what so ever that his ideas have any foundation in fact? No.
 
RandFan said:
Evidence? What is absolutely amazing is that he makes so many claims with such confidence based on nothing. Where does he come up with all of these assertions? Does he offer any basis what so ever that his ideas have any foundation in fact? No.


Exactly. I am interested to see what justifacations and lame reasoning Iamme comes up with to say any of this will help you live longer.
 
fowlsound said:
So, Coral calcium, vitamin C, Shark Cartelidge, and homeopathic remedies can cure cancer?

Evidence?

Evidence ANY of the therapies he sells work beyond placebo?


Edited to Add:

You're taking medical advice from someone who the FTC has two standing agreements that he will not market medical therapies, not to say that he has absolutely NO medical background?

Todays special treat: I brought the book in to town with me!! Enjoy. I am going to provide little snipets that will tantalize you.


Yes, he is not a medical practioner. But he states that that is to his advantage! That medical practioners are brainwashed by what they have been taught, fueled in large part by that of the drug companies who are out to make a repeated profit at all costs, with disregard to actual cures. They just want you to remain sick so they can keep treating your symptoms.

Conspiracy theory? Some of it...perhaps. But I have read too much good stuff that makes sense to me, that many people aren't thinking of.

Here we go:

"The Russian researchers stressed that eating microwaved foods can be fatal. The energy produced in a microwave oven makes the food a poison. .......Similar energy is in your cell phone, and the new long-range cordless phones radiating at a 2.45 gigahertz frequency is the same as your microwave oven..........computers, televisions, wireles devices, satelite transmissions, etc. This is why you NEED an electronic chaos eliminator. (This chaotic eliminator is one of his 'big four' he talks about throughout the book, along with natural foods, body cleansing and...I forget what the other is.)

Eating the molecularly altered microwaved food alters your blood chemistry as well. Consider this: Researchers have shown that if you eat organic vegatables that have been cooked in a microwave, your cholestrol rapidly rises. Swiss scientists have discovered that blood cholestrol is less influenced by how much cholestrol is in the food we eat, and more influenced by the molecular structure of the food itself...........long-term, permanent and fatal to the human body.................altered newly formed compounds that cannot be broken down....leads to cancer, heart disease, diabetes, MS, muscular dystrophy, lupus, and virtually every degenerative disease.

"Dr. Mercola agrees........recent research shows....when eaten it causes abnormal changes in the blood and immune systems."

I found in the book that if you put water in a microwave and use the water to grow something. The something will not grow!!!!! If I find the quote again, I wil post it.

He strongly advises to eating out at restaurants as so many microwave the foods. "Stop eating food that comes out of a microwave oven."

He sounds very sincere that he no longer does what he does based on money/greed. That he is out to basically save the world from false beliefs and from propaganda put forth by the FDA, etc.

I have to post in segments out of fear I could lose a lengthy post.
 
Vaccinations are bad!

"Vaccinations are drugs. They are poisons. They are diseased chemicals. You are injecting the little baby with viruses, drugs, chemicals and disease. The baby's immune system begins to act in a totally unnatural way and becomes susceptible to bacteria. Virtually every child then gets infections, primarily and ear infection. These infections were caused by the vaccines themselves. The doctor then prescribes more drugs in the form of antibiotics.......they cause a huge problem. They kill the friendly flora in the intestine, causing the bad flora, primarily Candida, to overgrow. This then carries on the rest of the person's life. The Candida yeast begins to overgrow, first starting in the intestine, then in the stomach, then through all the organs (he lists many)...such as thyroid and into the brain."

"The Candida begins to cause, or participate in the cause, of acid reflux, digestive disorders, MS, MD, thyroid problems, diabetes, liver problems, urinary tract infections, asthsma...virtually every other major disease."

"....it almost always goes back to Candida and/or nonprescription and prescription drugs. Those are the two main root causes for almost all disease.. The third major cause is your own mind. The stress and emotional challenges that you store in your mind. If you address these three things, virtually every single disease gets better or vanishes completely. I have seen people with (he lists a slew of major diseases by name) cured by handling these things (those things)."

"That is why I recommend doing a Candida cleanse.
 
(subchapter) "Recommended Product DMSO and Hydrogen Peroxide"

"If there are two miracle products on the planet that can virtually help assisting in you curing virtually every disease it is DMSO and hydrogen peroxide. The reason you have never heard....is they are 100% unpatentable, and they are incredibly inexpensive..............................................when you flood your body with oxygen, your body alkaline goes from acidic to alkaline...viruses instantly die, cancer dies, and your energy level skyrocket."

"One particular hospital in Mexico has virtually a 100% succes rate in eliminating cancer in just a matter of weeks by giving intravenous ozone and hydrogen peroxide."

That sounds like an unbelievable claim and I would like to learn more about that claim...wouldn't you?
 
He goes on to say that vitamin E has been shown to be potentially harmful. But Kevin debunks this by saying researchers are testing synthetic equivalents which are lacking in properties real Vitamin E has. He goes into a long diatribe as to why this is so, on a very educated sounding spiel.

He goes into another diatribe in another subchaper about cholestrol. He says you can have plenty of cholestrol. Cholestol is not the problem. Ulcerated arteries is. he goes on to say what is causing people to get ulcerated arteries, that cholestrol sticks to. That cholestrol in and of itself poses no risk.But the drug companies want people to be on cholestrol lowering drugs for their whole life! "This means billions for the drug companies. Lipitor and other cholestrol drugs are the most profitable drugs on the planet." High cholestrol is not a medical condition. not a disease. Your real concern is your circulation. He gets his circulation tested and does not concern himself with cholestrol. He says you need it for your body to function properly.

(subchapter) "Weight loss tip".

"If you want to lose weight, it is absolutely imperative that you eat a substantial breakfast." Do you want to know why? He says. Intriguing, isn't it?
 
Here are his big four that cause al illness and disease:

You have toxins in your body.

You have nurtritional deficiencies.

You have exposure to electromagnetic chaos.

You have mental and/or emotional stress.

"..your body will be alkaline, and when your pH wil be alkaline, you virtually can never get sick......People ask me, "How do I make my body alkaline?" The answer is always the same, "Go back to Chapter 6 in my (this) book....."
 
Iamme said:
Yes, he is not a medical practioner. But he states that that is to his advantage!
Sophistry. And typical of a scam artist.

That medical practioners are brainwashed by what they have been taught, fueled in large part by that of the drug companies who are out to make a repeated profit at all costs, with disregard to actual cures.
Please to go to the CDC website and show how Americans are so sick? There is no evidence to back this up. Are drug companies out to make money? Yes. Is it possible that they behave unethically at times? Yes. Does this prove Trudeau's proposition? No.

They just want you to remain sick so they can keep treating your symptoms.
Evidence? When anyone I know gets sick the go to the doctor and get medicine and get better. End of story. This is backed up by statistics and empirical evidence. Compare rates of disease between America and the third world. Look out your window. Talk to neighbors and friends. How many of them are chronically ill? What is the rate in America compared to other countries. It doesn't wash.

Conspiracy theory? Some of it...perhaps. But I have read too much good stuff that makes sense to me, that many people aren't thinking of.
This is SPECIOUS reasoning. Not a good way to go through life.

"The Russian researchers stressed that eating microwaved foods can be fatal. The energy produced in a microwave oven makes the food a poison.
Yet Americans who have more microwaves than just about anyone are living so long they are being warehoused. This "poisoning" is damn impotent. And assuming this were true which it demonstrably isn't, so what? Were microwaves invented by the drug companies?

.......Similar energy is in your cell phone, and the new long-range cordless phones radiating at a 2.45 gigahertz frequency is the same as your microwave oven..........computers, televisions, wireles devices, satelite transmissions, etc. This is why you NEED an electronic chaos eliminator. (This chaotic eliminator is one of his 'big four' he talks about throughout the book, along with natural foods, body cleansing and...I forget what the other is.)
Is there ANY evidence what so ever?

Eating the molecularly altered microwaved food alters your blood chemistry as well.
Sounds like a provable claim to me. Evidence?

Consider this: Researchers have shown that if you eat organic vegatables that have been cooked in a microwave, your cholestrol rapidly rises.
Citation please?

Swiss scientists have discovered that blood cholestrol is less influenced by how much cholestrol is in the food we eat, and more influenced by the molecular structure of the food itself...........long-term, permanent and fatal to the human body.................altered newly formed compounds that cannot be broken down....leads to cancer, heart disease, diabetes, MS, muscular dystrophy, lupus, and virtually every degenerative disease.
Evidence?

"Dr. Mercola agrees........recent research shows....when eaten it causes abnormal changes in the blood and immune systems."
Is there any demonstrable data?

I found in the book that if you put water in a microwave and use the water to grow something. The something will not grow!!!!! If I find the quote again, I wil post it.
"Quote"? Screw the quote, were the experiments published?

He strongly advises to eating out at restaurants as so many microwave the foods. "Stop eating food that comes out of a microwave oven."
Why? Honestly, why? Just because someone posits a specious argument is not a reason to change your way of life. There are so many claims how do you know which to follow?

He sounds very sincere...
Why, oh please to tell me why people give money to scam artists. Is it because the DON'T sound very sincere? Where do you think the word "con" as in conman comes from? It's from "confidence" and insincere people don't inspire confidence. The very first step of a con job is to instill sincerity.

...that he no longer does what he does based on money/greed.
Cool, then operate as a non-profit and don't draw a salary or donate all of that money to the hurricane victims. Typical conman rhetoric. Convince the mark that you are not interested in his money and he will gladly give it to you.

That he is out to basically save the world from false beliefs and from propaganda put forth by the FDA, etc.
Yes, typical of a conman. Demonstrate that you are the good guy and everyone else are the bad guys.
 
"In all my research (he has traveled the world in his efforts he states in the book), I have only found two brands of Vitamin E that are actually effective........."

"What you are looking for is a Vitamin E that has a natural unesterified mixed tocopherol complex containing antithrombic d-alpha tocopherol, which protects against internal blood clots and actually disolves them. And also containing d-beta, d-gamma, and d-delta tocopherols for synergistic antioxidant protection against harmful free radical damage and perioxynitrates damaging to brain cells, and also containing tocopherols in a non-geneticaly modified source. You do not want the the synthetic dl form and not the esterified tocopherol acetate or cuccinate, not the ordinary soy oil diluted mixed tocopherols or adulterated forms. You want the Vitamin E, which contains alll four components........."
 

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