Is Amway A Scam?

If you're trying to build a business based on chance, I suggest you start a casino.


When I'm being sold a "business opportunity," my chance of success is very relevant. If I find out that the vast majority of people who bought into the business make little to no money and, further, that only a handful of people make good money, then I know that I should steer clear.

If I invest in a McDonald's franchise, I can get a really good estimate of my potential earnings based on my market's demographics and other McD's owner experiences. That info helps me determine my chance of success and whether or not those chances are worth the risk of losing my capital.

So yes, any prudent person would gauge the chance of success in any business venture.
 
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If you're trying to build a business based on chance, I suggest you start a casino.

If you want people to follow you blindly and loyally with little chance of success, I suggest you start an MLM (or a cult).
 
When I'm being sold a "business opportunity," my chance of success is very relevant. If I find out that the vast majority of people who bought into the business make little to no money and, further, that only a handful of people make good money, then I know that I should steer clear.

If I invest in a McDonald's franchise, I can get a really good estimate of my potential earnings based on my market's demographics and other McD's owner experiences. That info helps me determine my chance of success and whether or not those chances are worth the risk of losing my capital.

So yes, any prudent person would gauge the chance of success in any business venture.

I might look at the odds of success, but chance to me implies the outcome is random and not determined by historical events - ie what you do.

Your odds of success (for our purposes I'll define this as "making a reasonable profit") by registering with Amway are very low - the vast majority of people who register with Amway do little or no work. If the fact you can't make money without doing something is a concern for you, then I again suggest a casino.

Your odds of success with Amway if you actually operate the business model is very high. A 2008 analysis showed that if you were part of the population that qualified for a bonus on downline volume, your odds of reaching Platinum level, then an income of US$50,000+, was around 1 in 35. That population includes people who are brand new (I earned a bonus on downline volume in my first month) and cannot possible be Platinum (which requires at least 6 months at the top of the bonus scale)

In the BERR vs Amway UK court case it was revealed only 6% of registered distributors purchased products to sell to retail clients - a requirement for IBOs below Platinum to earn a bonus in most Amway markets. The courts analysis also indicated 10% of IBOs in that market were profitable. In other words, simply obtaining retail clients puts your odds of being profitable at or close to 100%. As c1rex has already pointed out, and I can attest as well, obtaining retail clients is not difficult.

I have never met anyone who actually did what is recommended for the minimum recommended time (6-12 months) who has not developed a pretty decent profit.

So the more important question isn't really "what are the odds of success in this business venture" it's "what are the odd I'll actually do what I need to do to succeed".

The odds are very good you won't - but that's your choice. Amway (and most other MLMs) even allow you 3 months (6 in some markets) to try it out with virtually no financial risk-
 
I might look at the odds of success, but chance to me implies the outcome is random and not determined by historical events - ie what you do.

Your odds of success (for our purposes I'll define this as "making a reasonable profit") by registering with Amway are very low - the vast majority of people who register with Amway do little or no work. If the fact you can't make money without doing something is a concern for you, then I again suggest a casino.

Your odds of success with Amway if you actually operate the business model is very high. A 2008 analysis showed that if you were part of the population that qualified for a bonus on downline volume, your odds of reaching Platinum level, then an income of US$50,000+, was around 1 in 35. -

Totally false. Totally false.

Let's look at Amway's common 6-4-2 plan (some people use variations).

The assumption is I do 100 PV. I then sponsor 6 people.

Those 6 people sponsor 4 each (24) and those 4 each sponsor 2 (48).

That makes a group of 79 IBO's, all moving 100 PV.

First off, what is the likelihood of all IBO's actually moving enough volume to earn a bonus? Secondly, even in this "best case scenario" where everyone is motivated enough to earn a bonus, the number is 1 in 79.

Amway's numbers show .26% of IBO's reach platinum.

Icerat is good at cherry picking and showing atypical results.
 
I modified the quote to combine what I believe are related elements. Please correct me if my snipping has changed the meaning.

I might look at the odds of success, but chance to me implies the outcome is random and not determined by historical events - ie what you do.

(much snipped here)

So the more important question isn't really "what are the odds of success in this business venture" it's "what are the odd I'll actually do what I need to do to succeed".

You have left off an ingredient - those things that happen which are outside of my control. It may very well be that someone could follow the exact procedure of a successful entrepreneur and still fail.

I think this idea of a personal locus of control is common among the hopeful start-up, but magnified in Amway and MLMs. It is embodied in the phrase, "Systems do not fail, people do."

However, due diligence is absolutely about evaluating the system in place, and one of the metrics is historical track record. It is a foolish entrepreneur who thinks herself immune to adversity because she is "unique."
 
You have left off an ingredient - those things that happen which are outside of my control. It may very well be that someone could follow the exact procedure of a successful entrepreneur and still fail.

Several times I've seen surveys taken involving thousands of IBOs that were active enough to be paying >$100 to attend a seminar. Of those who reported having undertaken the recommended procedure for the minimum time over the months proceeding the even. Every single one of them - except one - where at the top of the Amway bonus scale. The one that wasn't was close to that level.

Given that the recommended procedures include attending that seminar, it's reasonable to state that close to 100% of people who undertake the recommended procedure for the minimum recommended time reach a reasonably successful level.

I've seen this survey repeated multiple times in multiple markets.

In 15 years of researching and writing about Amway I've also never encountered a single person who did what was recommended, for the minimum time recommended, and did not have similar success.

Not one.

I think this idea of a personal locus of control is common among the hopeful start-up, but magnified in Amway and MLMs. It is embodied in the phrase, "Systems do not fail, people do."

Life happens. With my original Amway business I was undertaking the recommended work and achieving the results predicted. Then serious issues arose with my "traditional" business at the time and I chose to put Amway on hold while I tried to save the company. Neither I nor the system "failed", I simply chose to reprioritise my time due to circumstances.

However, due diligence is absolutely about evaluating the system in place, and one of the metrics is historical track record.

Of course, and the historical track record for Amway is that people who actually implement the recommended business system generally achieve success. Worth mentioning again that simply registering with Amway (or other MLMs) and testing the systems is part of the due diligence process in deciding how many resources, if any, they wish to devote to the venture.

It is a foolish entrepreneur who thinks herself immune to adversity because she is "unique."

Who is talking about "unique"? There are thousands of "Diamonds" and above, and tens of thousands of "Platinums" and above, and many more at lower levels earning incomes. Their stories tell us the path to success in Amway is the same as in pretty much any other industry - consistency of effort and persistence - not because of a lack of or immunity to adversity, but in the face of it.
 
Several times I've seen surveys taken involving thousands of IBOs that were active enough to be paying >$100 to attend a seminar. Of those who reported having undertaken the recommended procedure for the minimum time over the months proceeding the even. Every single one of them - except one - where at the top of the Amway bonus scale. The one that wasn't was close to that level.

Given that the recommended procedures include attending that seminar, it's reasonable to state that close to 100% of people who undertake the recommended procedure for the minimum recommended time reach a reasonably successful level.
I've seen this survey repeated multiple times in multiple markets.

It should be noted that reaching a certain successful "level" doesn't mean you made money.

I was an IBO, did what I was told and reached a fairly high "level" at which I made no net profit. A part of what my upline told me to do which would make me successful was to reinvest my profits into training tools for myself and my group.

Also, the "procedures" Icerat refers to includes many non income producing steps. For example, listening to a cd daily, reading and attending functions cost an IBO money. It doesn't make them money. The important "procedure" would be to "show the plan" which can help you increase your sales volume is out of your control. You cannot force people to see the plan and sign up and in the US, where Amway's reputation is poor, this is where most IBO's will fail. Of course the blame is placed on the individual and not on the system itself.

It should also be noted that reaching a level and maintaining it are two very different issues. Many IBO's, diamonds included, reach a level and then fail to maintain it as their group shrinks to nothing. My former diamond went diamond with 7 platinums downline. None of them are platinums today. Some of hem have quit the business.

Even though icerat talks about thousands of diamonds and tens of thousands of platinums, he hasn't mentioned the tens of millions of IBOs who were a part of those thousands of diamonds or tens of thousands of platinums.
 
"Diamonds", "Platinums", "IBOs", "Downlines".... Throw in a bit of Bigfoot and L Ron Hubbard just so we can laugh a little more at the stupidity.
 
"Diamonds", "Platinums", "IBOs", "Downlines".... Throw in a bit of Bigfoot and L Ron Hubbard just so we can laugh a little more at the stupidity.

I think I may have said it before. Amway "retirees", folks who built the business and walked away to live in luxury (without working) on residual income (From Amway exclusively) are like bigfoot and the lochness monster.

Everyone's heard of these legends but so far there is no bonafide evidence that they actually exist.
 
"Diamonds", "Platinums", "IBOs", "Downlines".... Throw in a bit of Bigfoot and L Ron Hubbard just so we can laugh a little more at the stupidity.

Oh yeah, like other industries don't have jargon :rolleyes:

Do you have anything intelligent to contribute to the discussion, or just juvenile ignorance so you can laugh at your own "jokes"?
 
I find it hard to trust these mlm companies, and a big part of that is the lack of transparency. Aside from anecdotes, information is scarce. What little of substance that reaches the public is ominous.

http://skeptoid.com/mobile/4176
The nonprofit Consumer Awareness Institute analyzed available data published by the MLM companies themselves. Of the companies surveyed, they reported the least successful was Amway/Quixtar where 99.99% of distributors lose money, and the most successful was Herbalife, where 99.42% of distributors lose money.

They also surveyed 200 tax preparers in three counties in Idaho and Utah, where 6% of residents are active network marketing participants. From over 300,000 tax returns, not a single one reported significant profits from network marketing activities.

In a Wisconsin lawsuit, the tax returns of the top 200 of 20,000 network marketing participants were examined by the Attorney General. The average income of this top 1% was -$900.
 
I find it hard to trust these mlm companies, and a big part of that is the lack of transparency. Aside from anecdotes, information is scarce. What little of substance that reaches the public is ominous.

http://skeptoid.com/mobile/4176

You're spot on. First of all, there is a lack on information for prospects about Amway. Here's the problem as I see it:

The Amway compensation plan is complex and difficult for many to understand. If that is so difficult to understand, how can you make a rational decision about whether to join or not?

The people who recruit are typically a part of some motivational group such as WWDB, BWW, or Network 21. There's a conflict of interest when you're being recruited into Amway when they actually are recruiting you to sell you cds and seminars.

Amway has a shady reputation. Practically everyone knows of or knows someone who was lied to or tricked into attending an Amway meeting. How can you recruit people into an opportunity where the name sends people running?

If you overcome all of the above, then you have the issue of Amway's high prices. The defenders will cite concentration or high quality or some other convoluted method of justifying Amway prices. But the bottom line is you can find something exactly the same or similar at WalMart or a local retailer that is much cheaper and you don't have to pay shipping and wait for your products.

If you overcome all of this, then you have to be able to live with yourself. You'll need to exploit the people who trusted you in order to become one of the "wealthy" Amway diamonds or whatever "jewel" level you attain.

Other than that, Amway's all good.
 
I find it hard to trust these mlm companies, and a big part of that is the lack of transparency. Aside from anecdotes, information is scarce. What little of substance that reaches the public is ominous.

Sorry, but that's simply not true. Many MLMs are public companies, so their data is very much available. Furthermore, pretty much any MLM you can speak of is completely open to anyone to come and investigate. Go to meetings, try products, speak to people - that's how the whole business is operated.

To say it lacks transparency is simply not true.

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I tried engaging Brian Dunning in conversation on this topic on his other post about MLM. There were so many errors in his claims it was laughable. He asked for evidence to support what I was saying. I posted links to independent information - including peer-reviewed academic articles and books - he deleted my comments. Of course now we know he's been convicted of fraud in affiliate marketing, of which network marketing is a subset he was in effect in competition with.

To give you an idea of Dunning's ignorance, on February , 2014 he posted in the comments -

"I would challenge those in your family who are doing so well in MLM to produce proof that they have received more money in commissions than they have spent on required product purchases."

and

"Since the company has its distributors as a captive audience required to make regular purchases"

(my underline)

I work with Amway, the largest MLM company in the world. Avon is the second largest. Herbalife is the third. Add them together they're more than the rest of the top 20 combined.

None of those three have "required product purchases". All are MLMs. I'm not aware of any of the top 10 MLMs that do.

He has this false assumption about MLM, and then much of his thinking follows from this.

He goes on to say -

"So far, without exception, every case I've seen where participants claimed to have made money was all in the form of discounts or vouchers, which is pretend money."

Clearly he has actively avoided trying to see any cases. All legitimate MLMs publish income disclosure statements which shows the bonuses they pay out - in cash, not vouchers. Amway is legally required to publish this following a 1979 FTC decision. "Founders Platinums" in Amway average over $50,000/yr. There was more than 18,000 new "platinums" in Amway globally last year.

Why is he so confused? Partly because he relies on things like the bogus "Consumer Awareness Institute" as in your quote. The CAI is one guy, Jon Taylor in his home. He has admitted in court cases that he has never met most of his "board". One of his "board members" is promoting a book she wrote under a psuedonym on the CAI website, without revealing she wrote it - a violation of FTC disclosure laws. Taylor himself has zero non-self published articles or books on the topic of multi-level marketing, he seems ignorant of basic statistics, and in some cases outright lies (for example claiming there is a "70% retail sales rule"). Author and MLM consultant Len Clements wrote an article about Taylor and other MLM critics some years back. Worth reading the lot, links to other pages at the bottom. Taylor and his anti-mlm buddies Robert FitzPatrick and Tracey Cohen have been actively working with convicted fraudster and stock short Barry Minkow.

So what do actual business and marketing experts think about the industry?

Here's a video of Professor Charles King of the University of Illinois (Chicago) talking about Network Marketing in a court testimony -



He also wrote a book, The New Professionals

Here's another Professor of Business and Marketing, Professor Ing Jiří Jindra, CSc. of the University of Economics Prague (in Czech but with subtitles) talking about Amway.



Here's a book by yet another Professor of Business & Marketing, Professor Dominique Xardel, previously head of ESSEC, one of Europe's top business schools. He studied Amway for several years and reports very favourably on the company and business model - The Direct Selling Revolution

Or you could try and Associate Professor of Marketing at Kellogg School of Business, North Western University, Kent Grayson. He has numerous peer-reviewed published articles in the field of business and marketing, including network marketing.

Or there's his colleague, a Full Professor at Kellogg, Professor Anne Coughlan. Along with her extensive publication history, including on multilevel marketing, she wrote this handy FAQ on MLM companies a couple of years back. Worth a read.

Another worthwhile read is Multilevel (network) marketing: An objective view by Professor Emeritus Gerald Albaum of the University of New Mexico and Professor Robert Peterson of the University of Texas at Austin.

Want more? I've so far collated (and read most of!) over 100 academic papers and publications on network marketing. Dunning only lists two of them in his references, and doesn't even actually refer to them in his post. His criticism (and apparently understanding) of network marketing seems to have come almost entirely from Jon Taylor's blog. The same kind of lazy research Robert Carroll undertook.
 
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Clearly he has actively avoided trying to see any cases. All legitimate MLMs publish income disclosure statements which shows the bonuses they pay out - in cash, not vouchers. Amway is legally required to publish this following a 1979 FTC decision. "Founders Platinums" in Amway average over $50,000/yr. There was more than 18,000 new "platinums" in Amway globally last year.

Ok, $50k sounds like a reasonable wage.

Could you comment on the claim that $50 000 is before taxes and expenses, and that expenses is so high it destroys any chance of profit?

That would explain why in 1984 the state of Wisconsin found that the income on the average Platinum IBO was about minus $900.
 
Ok, $50k sounds like a reasonable wage.

Could you comment on the claim that $50 000 is before taxes and expenses, and that expenses is so high it destroys any chance of profit?

That would explain why in 1984 the state of Wisconsin found that the income on the average Platinum IBO was about minus $900.

Be careful with your terms. "Founders Platinum" might not be the same animal as "platinum."

I don't think this stuff is meant to be obvious to outsiders. Here is a handy glossary: http://www.amwaywiki.com/Glossary

When Icerat says that average take for a "Founders Platinum" is figure X, and there were Y new "platinums" - he knows the two terms mean different things.
 
Ok, $50k sounds like a reasonable wage.

Could you comment on the claim that $50 000 is before taxes and expenses, and that expenses is so high it destroys any chance of profit?

Of course it's before taxes and expenses, legitimate businesses have taxes and expenses. Pyramid scams do not. Does high expenses destroy the profit? Not usually, no. I know many people that have quit their full-time jobs at this level, and maintained that level for many years - clearly they could not do so if they had not replaced their incomes. It's possible of course if you're not careful with expenses - joecool for example reports quitting because he wasn't making much money, but also reports he was travelling from Hawaii to the US mainland for seminars regularly, as well as claiming costs for getting suits pressed etc. I had a couple in my group in Australia when we were starting who would always fly to seminars and stay in top hotels while the rest of us would catch the train and stay in camp grounds and cheap hotels. Not surprisingly after a year that couple quit because, they said, the business cost too much to operate!

That would explain why in 1984 the state of Wisconsin found that the income on the average Platinum IBO was about minus $900.

A while back I discussed this with the then Wisconsin assistant AG, Bruce Craig, who prosecuted the case and is vehemently anti-MLM. Frankly I was shocked at his lack of knowledge of Amway. First question I wanted to know was whether these were "profit-sharing directs" or "silver directs" that he got the data for.

He didn't know what the difference was. He just said they asked Amway for their "direct distributors".

Amway would have given anyone who was "silver direct" or above. Today that's called "silver producer". It's worth noting, by the way, that the data we are discussing is from 35 years ago, 1979-1980.

So what's the differences? Well, a "silver direct" in 1979 was someone who generated sales of 7500 points for just one month. You then got the right to order directly from Amway (hence "direct distributor") rather than through your upline supply chain. You kept that title even if your volume was zero the next month. It was reportedly not uncommon for people to make a big "push" selling Queen Cookware - a high ticket, high point product - in order to qualify for the benefits of being "direct". If you actually maintained the volume for 6 months you became a "profit-sharing direct", and for 12 months a "Q-12 direct".

An IBO from that era told me -

"Way back then, IBO's would qualify for Direct and then never re-qualify. I think the qualification for DD was so low because (1) we had so few products and (2) it was important to have new DD's pictured in the Amagram. (Maybe I'm being a little too harsh on #2.) Anyways, we would paste the qualifiers together and role out a year's worth of DD's to show skeptics that people really did make DD. We didn't even think that most of them were here today and gone tomorrow. We were just excited about the opportunity. It was a real revolving door."

So it's important to know if we're talking about people who qualifed as "direct" just once, pr people who actually had built a sustainable "direct" business. Wisconsin did not do this, so already you're talking about a diverse "non normal distribution" group where statistics like "average" are probably not even valid. You'll note when talking about incomes statistical authorities normally report median not average.

So what did they find? These directs actually had an average annual adjusted gross income of $14,349 - roughly $40000 in today's terms. Now, given this was a diverse group of silver directs with likely very low incomes compared to this average and Q-12 directs with likely quite high incomes compared to this average.

So we'd have -

"cookware qualifiers" - they'd have low, perhaps very low, actual incomes
new silver directs actively building - they may have even qualified only in the last month of the year - they'd have fairly low incomes compared to the average and reasonably high expenses.
Q-12 directs -they'd have high incomes compared to the average, but likely similar expenses to the silver directs.

All things being equal you would expect this group to skew towards the new and "cookware qualifiers". Furthermore, Wisconsin reported there were 192 Direct Distributors in that state - yet their income statistics we're based on 139 Direct Distributors. What happened to the other 53? It's my suspicion (Bruce Craig didn't know the answer to this either) that - just like today - the people treating the business seriously, and developing serious incomes, aren't declaring their Amway incomes on personal taxes - they're operating them as incorporated businesses (LLCs etc).

So you've got a skewed dataset where the actual high income earners have been excluded, leaving you with the "cookware qualifiers" and the new qualifiers - the latter of which virtually by definition as "startups" are going to have higher expenses relative to their incomes.

Think about it - every business person goes out of their way to try and keep their taxable income as low as legitimately possible. One of my companies has made a loss for each of the past 3 years - not deliberately, we're in development stage. Has it failed? No, it's generating money, and it's also supplying me with a very nice car, business telephones, high speed internet to my home office, business dinners etc. If I had a less nice car, less nice phones, and slower internet the business would probably not be making a loss. It's not an issue, we're on track for profitability with that venture next year.

On top of that, in 1982, the same year Wisconsin filed the case, the Wall Street Journal in reported -

"AMWAY DISTRIBUTORS' BIG TAX BREAKS STIR INVESTIGATIONS BY CONGRESS, IRS. This investigation was headed by Representative Pete Stark of California. Allegations were that distributors were using all sorts of innovative tax deductions as instructed by an ex-IRS agent. The IRS said the ex-agent was "out of line" and that the deductions claimed by distributors were "game playing.""

The investigation was dropped, but clearly at least some Amway distributors were taking advantage of some loophole or another.

So what can we learn from the Wisconsin case? Pretty much nothing. We have no idea of the quality of the data collected, and we know even the person who did the data collecting doesn't know! We also have no idea what expenses, tax breaks etc the distributors in question were using.

What do we know? It was 35 years ago. Since then Amway has not only significantly increased their bonuses, they've also tightened up qualifications considerably - you now need to qualify at the top of the volume discount scale for 6 months to be the equivalent of "direct", and income disclosure statements and marketing all emphasis 12 months of qualification.

My guess? Some people are making money, some people are making losses. Just like any other business.
 
Of course it's before taxes and expenses, legitimate businesses have taxes and expenses. Pyramid scams do not. Does high expenses destroy the profit? Not usually, no. I know many people that have quit their full-time jobs at this level, and maintained that level for many years - clearly they could not do so if they had not replaced their incomes.
I see.
What percentage and absolute number of the total Amway IBOs are making $50k and upwards?
 
I see.
What percentage and absolute number of the total Amway IBOs are making $50k and upwards?

First of all, as you point out, that $50K is bonus income, not profit. It doesn't include retail sales customer profit, and it doesn't include expenses. (Warning: jargon alert)

The latest income disclosure for the US states that in 2012 -

0.32% of all IBOs reached Q12 Platinum (but not Sapphire or higher) (avg bonus income $55,042)
0.10% reached Founders Emerald (but not Founders Diamond or higher) (avg bonus income $135,664)
0.03% reached Founders Diamond or higher. (avg bonus income $590,928)

So that's 0.45%, however for some reason they miss "Sapphire", a level between Platinum and Emerald, so the actual percentage will be higher, though probably not much higher.

Two notes -

(1) These percentages are for all IBOs. The income disclosure points out out that 54% of IBOs are classifed as inactive. That means they didn't present the business, didn't try to sell products, didn't attend any meetings, and didn't earn any bonuses. Being simply a "shopper" and purchasing enough products for personal use to earn a rebate would classify you as "active", even if you're not attempting to earn an income. I would be included in these statistics in the US (I order products from their occasionally) despite not having been to the US since 2002 and not doing anything to build a business there.

(2) These are not IBO household incomes, which critics sometimes try to characterize them as. The vast majority of IBOs, even Diamonds, operate their businesses part-time, this is additional income on top of whatever else they are doing.
 
So a little less than 1 in 200 Amway IBOs make $50 k before expenses. I'll have to compare this with conventional businesses to see if this is good or bad. I'll get back to this.

If I were to join Amway, I would a ask what are the typical expenses. I would guess marketing material (tools) , phone, Internet , office, car expenses, representation, test products, etc. Is there any data from Amway what the average expenses would be for an IBO making $50k and upward?
 
So a little less than 1 in 200 Amway IBOs make $50 k before expenses. I'll have to compare this with conventional businesses to see if this is good or bad. I'll get back to this.

The problem is the data doesn't allow us to do that. People join Amway (and other MLMs) with a variety of motives, usually mixed. I joined primarily to get the products cheaper, later decided to build a business, later moved back to primarily simply being a shopper, and now I am back to building a network again. Due to the low start-up costs and money back guarantees, we encourage people to check out the opportunity "from the inside" to see if it's something they want to do. Thus the population of "all IBOs" includes many people (a majority in fact) of people who not actually trying to earn an income. Those people should obviously not be included in a comparison with a sample of conventional business owners, who have typically invested far more time and effort in to their venture.

If I were to join Amway, I would a ask what are the typical expenses. I would guess marketing material (tools) , phone, Internet , office, car expenses, representation, test products, etc. Is there any data from Amway what the average expenses would be for an IBO making $50k and upward?

Not that they've published, though I know from having been a survey participant myself that they do have some idea. The expenses are as you indicate. "Tools" includes training and motivational material that are useful both for the individual IBO and with prospects as a time saving and credibility device. They include seminars, audio and video materials, personal and leadership development books etc and are known as "Business Support Materials" (BSM). In a recent court case in California and independent court assessor who had access to both ten years of Amway's data and data from various independent BSM suppliers estimated that less than 1 in 4 IBOs had even $100 of BSM expenses over their entire Amway "career".

In our own organization our strategy is to completely cover expenses from retail customer profit alone. The reported "bonus" incomes from Amway is solely wholesale differential profit margins. My own expenses when actively building average less than $400/mth and they haven't changed much as the business has grown. Travel expenses are the only thing that tends to increase much from being a new active IBO to a growing one. Later they drop again if you're "maintaining" a certain sales level rather than actively trying to grow your business. My original australian business has had zero expenses for the past 15 years apart from a $50 membership fee, and it's generated tens of thousands of dollars in commissions in the same time.

You might be getting the sense that an honest analysis isn't a straightforward exercise, and you'd be right!
 

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