Iraqi Journalist Throws Shoes At Bush..Misses

[Cicero]

Will the real Cicero please stand up?

The real Cicero wouldn't accuse anyone of hating bush, hating the American Military, and be devoted to Ba'athists.

You are obviously a fraud.

I will admit to disliking Bush though. Although I couldn't really say I hate him. It's difficult to hate someone who is a complete laughing stock.

You pity Bush? OK. You also pity the American military? How much did the U.S. military pay Iraqi citizens to cheer them when they initially arrived in Baghdad in 2003? Could you check your copy of the Baath Party newsletter for the exact amount?

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

You pity Bush? OK. You also pity the American military? How much did the U.S. military pay Iraqi citizens to cheer them when they initially arrived in Baghdad in 2003? Could you check your copy of the Baath Party newsletter for the exact amount?

I think it's more pertinent to ask what was stolen from the Iraqi citizens by the Zionist-Neocon invaders.

CPA privatization orders anyone?

 

[Cicero]

I think it's more pertinent to ask what was stolen from the Iraqi citizens by the Zionist-Neocon invaders.

CPA privatization orders anyone?

So now you are officially out of the closet as an anti-Semite?

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

So now you are officially out of the closet as an anti-Semite?

WTF are you talking about? Oh, because I said Zionist-Neocon??

What's that got to do with racism Cicero? - Absolutely Nothing.

Still you wouldn't be the first to vomit that tired old argument.

 

[Cicero]

WTF are you talking about? Oh, because I said Zionist-Neocon??

What's that got to do with racism Cicero? - Absolutely Nothing.

Still you wouldn't be the first to vomit that tired old argument.

You hate Israel and lament the fact that Saddam's regime, a sworn enemy of Israel, is out of power in Iraq. If you are interested in reading regurgitation tea leaves, I suggest you look at your own coughed up bile. There is no mistaking the tell tale signs of an anti-Semite.

 

[Skeptic]

Yes. They were. In particular, I can't remember any French citizens making suicide attacks against the Allies. So if Iraqis don't feel the same way, maybe there is a real and significant diffence between the invasion of Iraq and the liberation of France.

Yes, there is: for starters, Frenchmen weren't brainwashed by Jihadist ideology who considered the random killing of non-French-Catholics in the holy French land, no matter why they're there, to be an instant ticket to heaven.

But I like your logic -- to wit, that if the terrorists blow up Americans in suicide attacks, this surely shows that the Americans did something incredibly awful and had it coming. By the same logic, since the suicide bombers in Iraq killed far more Iraqis than they did Americans, what the Iraqis are really opposed to is the existence of other Iraqis, and they are simply suicidal. After all, you haven't heard of Frenchmen blowing themselves up in such a way in order to kill as many other Frenchmen as possible, either, have you?

Now, since it's the same people who are blowing up both Americans and the Iraqis, you seem to have a choice. Either you say that they are representative of what "the Iraqis" want, in which case the Iraqis want national suicide and it hardly matters if the USA invades or not. Or, if these people do not represent what "the Iraqis" want, then you can hardly use their suicide attacks against Americans as evidence the Americans are doing something wrong.

On the contrary, if anything: since those who do attack Americans with suicide bombers are in effect the same people who attack the Iraqis with suicide bombers, it follows that those who would destroy Iraq see Americans as their enemies. Therefore, the Americans are on the pro-Iraqi side, against those who would destroy it -- a rather obvious truth.

Well, for most people, at least.

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

You hate Israel and lament the fact that Saddam's regime, a sworn enemy of Israel, is out of power in Iraq. If you are interested in reading regurgitation tea leaves, I suggest you look at your own coughed up bile. There is no mistaking the tell tale signs of an anti-Semite.

"the tell tale signs of an anti-Semite." my scrotum. You people are a laughing stock.

What a load of horse crap. Another piece of bile from the frothing at the mouth Anti-Semite police.

I don't hate Israel. I certainly have nothing against the ordinary Israelis. I am disgusted at Israel's treatment of the Palestinians though.

and lament the fact that Saddam's regime, a sworn enemy of Israel, is out of power in Iraq.

And where did you fabricate these lies from. The fact that you have to lie to try and put forward an argument just proves your prime motives, which are to tarnish anyone with Anti-Semite who dares to criticize Israel/Zionist Movement.

There's no point in challenging you to provide evidence of me lamenting Saddam's demise as I just know you'll squirm behind your monitor and divert and avoid.

Saddam was a nasty piece of work no doubt. But recognizing that Iraq is worse off under the invading power is not showing support for Saddam. Anyone with even 2 brain cells could work that one out.

By making those baseless accusations you've just made yourself look very stupid indeed.

So carry on flapping around shouting "Anti-Semite! Anti-Semite!" in a squeaky whining voice and give us all a laugh. Is there a standard Anti-Semite Police uniform?

 

[Skeptic]

WTF are you talking about? Oh, because I said Zionist-Neocon??

Yes, because you said "Zionist-Neocon". "Neocon" might have passed but "Zionist-neocon" is a telltale sign that you consider the invasion was a "Zionist" invasion -- that is, instigated and planned by "Zionists", or for their benefit. But the "Zionists controlled America" nonsense is obviously simply a rehash of the "Jewish controlled world" conspiracy theory.

Even a short check, for instance, of conspiracy theory web sites, shows how the "Zionist controlled" American government, or ZOG, is behind everything -- and "Zionist" is obviously meant as "Jew". For example, the only evidence needed to prove to these folks that someone is a "Zionist" in the conspiracy is that he has a Jewish-sounding name.

As an icing on the cake, your post also says, as usual with antisemitic conspiracy theories, that the "Zionist neocons" did it all for the money. This is the usual "Jews are greedy and will do anything for money" libel. Not to mention your claim that 9/11 was "possibly" a false flag attack -- you won't say by whom, but surely by the same "Zionist-neocons", if by anybody.

And I'm supposed to believe this is a pure coincidence, isn't it? That it is merely by chance that the people you call "Zionist-Neocons" are usually Jews (or else "controlled" by "Zionist-neocons" who are Jews); that it is merely by chance that you blame the "Zionist-neocons" for the same "evil control the USA policy" that the openly antisemitic blame the Jews for; that it is merely by change that you say the "Zionist-neocons" are doing it all out of greed, the usual antisemitic slander about jews; and that it's merely by chance that you also consider it "possible" these Zionist-neocons planned 9/11 as well, like the open antisemites say the Jews did (or that the US government did on the Jews' orders.)

Riiiiiiight.

The antisemite says:

"Some greedy, world controlling Jew, had..."

You say:

"Some zionist neocon, who just happens to be a greedy world controlling Jew, had..."

Yeah, big difference there.

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Yes, because you said "Zionist-Neocon". "Neocon" might have passed but "Zionist-neocon" is a telltale sign that you consider the invasion was a "Zionist" invasion -- that is, instigated and planned by "Zionists", or for their benefit. But the "Zionists controlled America" nonsense is obviously simply a rehash of the "Jewish controlled world" conspiracy theory.

Even a short check, for instance, of conspiracy theory web sites, shows how the "Zionist controlled" American government, or ZOG, is behind everything -- and "Zionist" is obviously meant as "Jew". For example, the only evidence needed to prove to these folks that someone is a "Zionist" in the conspiracy is that he has a Jewish-sounding name.

As an icing on the cake, your post also says, as usual with antisemitic conspiracy theories, that the "Zionist neocons" did it all for the money. This is the usual "Jews are greedy and will do anything for money" libel. Not to mention your claim that 9/11 was "possibly" a false flag attack -- you won't say by whom, but surely by the same "Zionist-neocons", if by anybody.

And I'm supposed to believe this is a pure coincidence, isn't it? That it is merely by chance that the people you call "Zionist-Neocons" are usually Jews (or else "controlled" by "Zionist-neocons" who are Jews); that it is merely by chance that you blame the "Zionist-neocons" for the same "evil control the USA policy" that the openly antisemitic blame the Jews for; that it is merely by change that you say the "Zionist-neocons" are doing it all out of greed, the usual antisemitic slander about jews; and that it's merely by chance that you also consider it "possible" these Zionist-neocons planned 9/11 as well, like the open antisemites say the Jews did (or that the US government did on the Jews' orders.)

Riiiiiiight.

The antisemite says:

"Some greedy, world controlling Jew, had..."

You say:

"Some zionist neocon, who just happens to be a greedy world controlling Jew, had..."

Yeah, big difference there.

Wow Skeptic that's 12 times in one post!!!! And a whole gamut of false accusations as icing on the cake.

I have absolutely nothing against anyone for being Jewish. but that doesn't matter to you and your obsessive huge chip on your shoulder about the world hating Jews and wanting to throw Israel into the sea.

Get over yourself. You're going to have a heart attack if you keep on ranting Anti-Semitism at anyone who criticizes the Zionist Movement and or Israel.

You are the one turning it into a Jewish problem not me.

YOU are the one that is racist not I .....

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4298005&postcount=360

Of course, the Palestinians could have defeated this evil plan by not killing civilians.

But hey, killing civilians randomly is what Palestinians do.

Just think if someone here had said ...

"But hey, killing civilians randomly is what Jews do."

.. you'd be spitting a constant stream of obsessive shrieks of "Anti-semitism!" for hours.

You are a laughing stock.

 

[Upchurch]

Most of the French people didn't even care about being occupied by the Nazis

I'd ask you for evidence for this, but you obviously don't need my help to make a fool out of yourself.

Humorous and true.

Well, half right.

 

[Toke]

How come both Obama and McCain declared their undying devotion to a Greater Israel during the campain?

Israel have no special status in american foreign policy, right?

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

How come both Obama and McCain declared their undying devotion to a Greater Israel during the campain?

Israel have no special status in american foreign policy, right?

[sarcasm]

No of course not.

[/sarcasm]

I read the speeches that Obama, Mccain and Hillary made to AIPAC at their conference. We'll know America has moved on the day it gets a Pro-Palestinian President. Or even better a neutral President.

 

[Pardalis]

How come both Obama and McCain declared their undying devotion to a Greater Israel during the campain?

You sure you're not putting words in their mouths there fella?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91150432

Nope, nowhere as he mentioned "Greater Israel".

 

[Darth Rotor]

How come both Obama and McCain declared their undying devotion to a Greater Israel during the campain?

Israel have no special status in american foreign policy, right?

Toke:

The money trail says otherwise. Measured in dollars in aid per capita, Israel gets a remarkable aid benefit from Washington. COmpare that to aid to Denmark or Norway, via the measure of NATO Accounting Units per capita (US dollars are about 25% of NATO common funding) and you'll see a comparison between advanced countries of a similar sort.

See also the bribes from Camp David: a roughly equivalent sum for each player, but Egypt has ten times the population.

I will leave to Oliver and others the AIPAC more flamboyant responses to your post.

Or even better a neutral President.

An American "pro-Palestinian" president is not a good move, nor a rational one.

Neutral is a far better objective, if a change is in the offing.

DR

 

[Toke]

You sure you're not putting words in their mouths there fella?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91150432

Nope, nowhere as he mentioned "Greater Israel".

Yes I did put words in their mouths, mistakes happen.

Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.

Read it a while ago, and mixed it up with greater Israel from some fundie.

Here is the corrected version

How come both Obama and McCain declared their undying devotion to Israel during the campain?

Israel have no special status in american foreign policy, right?

 

[Pardalis]

Funny enough, the truther accepted your "mistaken" version hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Yes I did put words in their mouths, mistakes happen.

Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.

Supporting the illegal occupation of Jerusulam is just as bad though.

 

[Toke]

Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.

I do wonder how big the difference is between this and a Greater Israel, and if Omaba knows it?

Whatever the case, Israel is giving jews a bad name.

 

[Skeptic]

Supporting the illegal occupation of Jerusulam is just as bad though.

Except that it isn't "illegal". Jews lived in Jerusalem forever... until 1948, that is, when the Jordanian Legion conquered the old city of Jerusalem... and naturally ethnically cleansed every single Jew there and made it Judenrein.

And that, folks, is how Jerusalem became "Arab East Jerusalem" which is "illegally occupied" by Jews -- since the time, 19 years laters, the Jordanian legion tried to finish the job it started in 1948 and push the Jews into the sea.

But I keep forgetting that Arab ethnic cleansing is just fine.

 

[Skeptic]

Whatever the case, Israel is giving jews a bad name.

Strange.

When my grandfather was young, it was the fact that there wasn't an Israel which, people very honestly and firmly told him, was giving Jews a bad name -- proving that Jews are parasites that must feed off a "host" nation, instead of surviving on their own in their own country, like any normal people would.

Now, it is the fact that there is an Israel which, people very honestly and firmly tell me, is giving Jews a bad name -- proving that the Jews are evil occupiers who must destroy other people with the phony-baloney excuse that they want their own country, instead of being loyal citizens of the European countries they came from, like any normal people would.

I do wish you folks would make up your mind.